J.W. asks from Frisco, TX on February 14, 2008
Son with Behavior Issues at School
Hi ladies
Hopefully, someone can offer up some good advice or suggestions. My 5 year old just started kindergarten this year and has had behavior issues since school started. I knew this year would be hard for him being that he just turned 5 at the start of school and we just had twin girls in October which has been quite an adjustment for him. We have lots of family help (i.e. grandparents) to help with everything so there is never any lack of attention at home, we even have a special night just for him (no babies) where we go do something special. I get a call or e-mail from the teacher at least every week or two about him accting up, usually he has hit someone or can't keep his hands to himself. He has always had the same issues at school since he was about 2. He even got kicked out of pre-school when he was about 3 for biting. So far his school career has not gone very smoothly. I am just at a loss as to what I can do now. I'm worried that he will eventually be kicked out of school if this keeps up. He is such a sweet boy at home (rambunctious but sweet) so I just don't know why this behavior comes out at school and always has been an issue at whatever school he attends. We have punishes him several different ways and he may behave for a couple of days but then he is back to his old self. Please let me know if you have any suggestions or have experieced this with your own children.-Thanks
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Thanks to everyone for your suggestions. We had already tried most of the things suggested like reminding him before school to behave, and rewarding and praising him for being good. Yes we know he was probably too young to start kindergarten but we had no choice because with the twins daycare alone it is more than our mortgage and we could not afford to have another one in daycare so we took the chance that he may have to repeat kindergarten. My sons teacher is very experienced (30+ years as a teacher) and puts forth extra effort for him and communicates with me well. The problem is he has always had trouble in a school setting and it has been suggested by other teachers that he may be adhd. I think we will start by taking him to be tested for food allergy and adjusting his diet and see what comes of it. Thanks again for all your suggestions.
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S.W. answers from Dallas on February 20, 2008
Have you had him tested for A.D.D. or A.D.H.D.? My son, who is now 25, was diagnosed when he was in 1st grade. He was fine at home with me, but when he was at school he was a completely different child. Too much stimulous at school. Just thought I would ask.
S. W.
A.M. answers from Dallas on February 15, 2008
My sweet son who is now 9 years old had the same problems in Kindergarten and First Grade. His kindergarten teacher daignosed him with Autism. I have a 10 year old sister who is severly autistic and so I know what autism was. Beside that was kindergarten his first experience socially with other kids because he never went to day care and his teacher was a pretty young blond thing. So I dismiss her diagnosis. In first grade he was always gettign into trouble touching and hitting other kids, not paying attention and always talking. His 1st grade teacher brought up ADD. After keeping myself in denial....I took him to see a psychologist. He thought he had a slight form of ADD. He put him on Addrerall. Wow the improvement....no more behavior problems and his grades went from C & D to A & B. We have not had any more behavior problems at all. When I tell him to do something...he does it immendiately. I used to have to ask him 50 times to do something. I was very big into the fact that I was not going to medicate my child. But I have gotten over that denial just due to the fact I see the great improvement and the confidence he has gained from not being in trouble all the time at home and school.
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J.T. answers from Dallas on February 15, 2008
It has been my experience, and the experience of several moms in my circle that high fructose corn syrup accounts for a lot of behaviorial issues. My son just seems to flip-out if he has even a little in his diet. Unfortunately, most schools don't have the best quality food for the kids in daycare or in public schools and it's usually full of the stuff. Go through your pantry and throw out everything that contains corn syrup or high fructose corn syrup and send him to school with his own lunch. Displine didn't help with my son either, because his brain was being controlled by what he was eating! Good luck and you're doing great! Being a mom to a young son and twins, WHEW!
A.H. answers from Dallas on February 15, 2008
Hi J.,
I don't know if you've considered the possibility that his behavioral issues have less to do with social problems as scholastic insecurity. I too had some issues with my son when he started...he is a very good, sensitive child, but a bit aggressive at times, and I was told he was either being disruptive, or lazy. After talking with him, I figured out that he just wasn't understanding his lessons, and that what he needed was more one-on-one instruction time in the "basics". Once I attended to it and he got his concepts down, his manner changed. He became more confident, more attentive, and problems stopped occuring. The other possibility is he may be looking to attract attention to himself. Some kids don't care what kind of attention they get as long as it's attention, i.e. my daughter. She would hit my other daughter, and one day, instead of punishing her, I asked her what was on her mind. She told me she hit her sister because I was ignoring her. After explaining to her that when I'm working, I don't often hear her because I'm so focused, and what to do when she wanted my attention. The misbehavior then stopped. Anyway, I'm long-winded, but the thing to do is figure out the cause of the misbehavior. I don't know if it's things like ADHD...I'm on the fence on that one because most kids have a short attention span anyway. Talk to him, and most importantly, listen to him. Ask probing questions. How do you feel when this happens? When you hit someone, why do you think you did it? How did it make you feel? What do you think your teacher should do about it? What do you want so that you don't hit someone? What's he thinking? ...just to name a few. Then, address the cause with love and assurance that no matter what he's going through, you're there for him, and he can always count on you if he needs someone to talk with or answer any questions. Good luck.
K.D. answers from Dallas on February 15, 2008
Oh J., I was in your shoes about 4 years a go, you described my 5 year old to a tee. I was getting calls from his teacher about his behave at school any where from once to three times a week. what we did was go over the rules ever morning " eyes, focusing, mouth,Quiet and respectful, hands and feet to ourself, ears listening. Then when we got home from school, if he was good he recieved a treat, if he misbehave he did not get to watch catoons and was sent to be 30min early. We had to get consist. But it worked. It took several weeks, but he has not had any behaver issue since kindergarden and he is now a A student in 3rd grade. Good luck and hang in there he'll get the hang of school.
L.C. answers from Dallas on February 14, 2008
My little nephew was like that. My sister had to have him move to a very experienced teacher who knew how to redirect his behavior. I think that he probally is learning how to adjust but an experienced teacher has dealt with this many times and can teach him positive and correct social skills. I agree smaller class sizes helps but unfortantley in public school its hard to do. Can you or a grandparent volunteer in the classroom once a week for an hour or have lunch with him..We found that helped and that we could help his impulses by showing him how to cope with a pesky kid before he started swinging without squashing his spirit. good luck, and congradulations on your twins!
S.R. answers from Dallas on February 15, 2008
Hi J....that's pretty much my story as well...my son's kindergarden teacher was calling every other day with some issue of this sort. I was a stay at home Mom and my son was always just fine, he was a busy toddler, but nothing out of the ordinary...it wasn't until he started school that we saw there was a problem. The school suggested getting him evaluated for Sensory Integration Dysfunction. We did..and he had the disorder. SID is when his senses don't always co-operate with each other and his brain doesn't process them correctly. He was so overstimulated in the classroom, his senses didn't know how to process it. My son went through 1 1/2 years if play therapy...we called it play gym, because we didn't want him to think there was something wrong with him...he did great with it, plus he thought it was lots of fun. He was treated at North Texas Therapy Innovations on Avenue K in Plano. Unknown to us, he also has a slight case of ADD...you may want to get that checked out as well. My son has improved 100% and is now in 4th grade and on the honor roll...he has impulsivity issues still, but we're working on that!
L.W. answers from Dallas on February 15, 2008
I do not know what school district your son attends, but he is at a critical age to try to better understand the function of the behaviors. In other words, what is he getting out of the behavior. So I would request an FBA (Functional Behavior Assessment). Many districts will be reluctant unless the behaviors are completely out of control, but if you diplomatically work with the school and express the fact that you want to keep the behaviors from getting to that point, it might help. An FBA simply is a process of analyzing what are the situations, people, expectations, etc that are present and occur right before the behavior starts. Then analyzing what is reinforcing the behavior. With that information, the teacher, other pertinent staff and yourself can pick some appropriate replacement behaviors that serve the same purpose.
S.W. answers from Dallas on February 14, 2008
I work at a private school for students in 5-12 grades who have behavior issues which have turned into academic issues and vice-versa.
Definitely reward him for good behavior! Maybe have a star system, and evertime he has a good report from the teacher (i would make this a daily report at first!), you put a star on a chart. At the end of the week/month/whatever, go out to dinner (even at sonic), make popcorn and have a friday night movie!
Also, maybe get him into some kind of program where he can release some tension/stress/energy outside of school. I have heard of karate being great for younger and older kids!
Good luck, if you have any questions, please contact me!
-S.
H.L. answers from Dallas on February 14, 2008
Hi J.,
I agree with the other mom who said he may just be too young for kindergarten. My daughter had 2 boys in her kindergarten class last year who shared the same birthday, but one was a year older (both were Aug 14). The younger one was in trouble on a daily basis. I think that when they are so young like that, they may be academically ready for kindergarten, but behaviorly, they are not. I would talk to his teacher about this....he can always repeat kindergarten next year.
BTW, my son's birthday is Aug 27, and I'm not going to send him to kindergarten the year he turns 5. I think it just starts them out at such a disadvantage when they are so much younger than the other kids in their class.
Good Luck!
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