L.H. asks from San Diego, CA on October 23, 2008
Sleeping Through the Night- 3 1/2 Month Old, Is It Possible?
I have a 3 1/2 month old daughter and a 15 month old son. They share a room, well, really she is sleeping in a bassinet in my room so that she does not wake her brother up. He was pretty easy and sleeping through the night by now. He, however, was formula fed. She is breastfed and wakes up some nights EVERY hour but most every three hours. I cannot get her to sleep longer anymore. She was pretty good a month ago. She went to bed about 9:30, woke up at 3 and then 7. Now she goes down at 9pm then she is up at 12, 3 and 5:30 like clockwork. I have tried feeding her on both sides now but that does not work either. At night she falls asleep within 5 minutes. I have tried moving her bassinet to the living room to avoid hearing her squirm (I am a light sleeper), I have tried breastmilk in a bottle (for more volume), I feel like I have tried everything. During the day she will feed both sides every three hours and will not go any longer. Do you have any advice? With two little ones I am about to loose my mind with little sleep.
Thanks
So What Happened?™
Thank you all so very much for your feedback. I started feeding her every three hours throughout the day on both sides so she gets a full 15 to 30 minutes in. She has been a great napper during the day with a new routine of eating, playing for about 30 minutes and then napping for 2 hours. The last two nights we have longer sleeping periods of 6 hours and then 4 and a half, so I think we are making progress:) Thanks for the encouragement too. It really helps!
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C.S. answers from Los Angeles on October 25, 2008
Great job breast feeding, her sleep issues don't have to do with that, keep it up. I breast fed my son and he was sleeping 10-12 hrs at night by 5 weeks, it's very possible and has nothing to do with formula. Do you ever let her cry? Sounds like she just likes the comfort of you getting up with her, bad pattern to start. Try not getting her and see what happens. Maybe she'll cry 8min, learn to self soothe and go back to sleep.
D.G. answers from Los Angeles on October 25, 2008
My daughter was always a good sleeper at 3 1/2 months she was breastfed & sleeping through the night 10-12 hrs, so it is possible. I just think every baby is different and has different needs. She also may not be filling up on milk...??
J.W. answers from Los Angeles on October 24, 2008
Sorry you are sleep deprived, maybe you can pump and ask hubby for help. This is totally normal though, babies need to eat and grow at this age. It will get better, hang in there mom.
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S.H. answers from Honolulu on October 23, 2008
If she makes little noises and squirms during the night... just wait.. don't rush in, and this may be just normal sleep noises & rustling around and not exactly her "waking up" per say.
If she does wake, cry, need you... then go to her and feed her/nurse her. At this age, you do not want her to "Cry it out." Nor later either. But that is up to you.
At her age, she's probably also changing developmentally and their sleep patterns change too....
Each baby is different, with different dispositions and sleep patterns/abilities.
Your daughter seems to need to feed a lot, cluster feeding... which is common for breastfed. That's the way it is with breastfeeding... every 3 hours or less. As an infant.. they need and must feed on demand. Do not feed her according to a "schedule." Not with breastfeeding. Breastfeeding is arduous... and takes time, and stamina. I breastfed both my kids until they self-weaned. Not easy, but I"m glad, and glad they are done. LOL
I can understand you have your hands full with 2 young ones. But, you do need to feed on demand... "getting" a baby to sleep through the night, especially at this age... is not always easy. AND sleep patterns fluctuate, all the time, and at each growth spurt or developmental change. In your case, maybe your girl is going through a growth spurt... and if so, she DOES need to feed more, and even if she wakes during the middle of the night. They NEED the extra calories and feedings when they are growing....their intake naturally increases.
Also, even though it seems like you are nursing her round the clock, which is normal... make sure that your milk production is still keeping pace with her needs... if not, she may need more and is simply hungry all the time. If she is waking so much, that may be why...she is not getting enough...even though she is at your breast. BUT, if you give her breastmilk in a bottle...in lieu of a direct nursing from breast....this "can" affect your own milk production, thereby decreasing it. SO, keep that in mind.
Direct nursing from the breast, is the best way to insure your body is keeping up with the intake needs of a baby....the body will naturally adapt to the drinking amount the baby is "demanding." Breastmilk output is all about supply and demand and frequency.
When she is nursing, make sure she is nursing/suckling properly. Make sure she is not just hanging onto the tip of your nipple...make sure the ENTIRE areola is in her mouth and her mouth is encircling it.. and you "hear" sucking sounds AND swallowing. If she is not nursing properly...then they are probably not getting in enough intake.
If your girl is waking every hour... first check diaper, check for gas, check for poop. But, if she is hungry... which is probably the case... you want to make sure she is nursing LONG enough during EACH nursing so that she gets to the "hind" milk...this takes at least 15 minutes.. and the baby should nurse longer, to make sure they get the full components of the breastmilk. If she is waking every hour... it may well be a growth spurt and you do just have to go with it and feed her... that is a baby's needs. They get hungry. I too nursed my kids with both breasts at each session... and for however long it took them, and they nursed me dry each session at each breast. My kids also fed a lot. But so it was.
Now, for "Plan B." WHERE is Hubby in all this? He works form home, right? Well, perhaps, HE can be the one to give your girl her "feeding" at night? Thereby, allowing you some needed and deserved rest and sleep. Afterall, you have 2 young babes... and I'm sure he can certainly help run interference for you and pinch hit the feedings at night? Once a woman has 2 children.... it certainly becomes even more imperative that Hubby helps out with things, as much as is possible. Tell him that if a Mama is stressed and does not get adequate rest...it can affect her breastmilk supply. This is true.
IF you do go with giving pumped breastmilk bottles at night... just be extra sure to KEEP to nursing her on demand during the rest of the day and evening... your body should adapt to that... and still produce adequate milk. That is the general logic at least, with breastfeeding and milk supply.
All the best,
Susan
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M.S. answers from Las Vegas on October 24, 2008
Dear L.:
Susan's advice was fantastic. The only thing I'd add would be this. In my case, my children nursed about every hour...it was exhausting to fight it. So, we discovered co-sleeping and the problem went away since the child just helps themselves to the breast while mom keeps sleeping. I know this sounds radical, but it worked for me and I wanted to offer you an alternative to being sleepy all the time. With co-sleeping, there is no crying at night and everyone sleeps!
Best wishes,
M.
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H.H. answers from Los Angeles on October 24, 2008
You are only weeks away from when it is possible and expected for babies to make it through the night. Since you say she regressed, its probably a growth spurt. She'll drop that midnight feeding in no time. In the mean time, can dad take the midnight feeding to help you? Tell him its temporary. I also couldn't handle the bassinet because every sound was amplified by my hyper mommy allertness. Move her as far from you as possible (even if its the living room) and use a fan for white noise to drown out those gurgely noises. My husband took over the midnight feeding for me and I am forever indebted to him. One unorthodox thing that really saved me was that I put my baby in her swing all night for a while there. When I confessed to her pediatrition what I had done, she said it was perfectly safe but that I would have a terrible time breaking the habit. Well, lets just say for about 6 weeks it saved me from certain melt down and I broke her of the habit while she was still young (4.5 months).
When I moved my baby to her own room, I got up less because she was able to fuss herself back to sleep rather than me waking and feeding at every fussy spell. If the living room is the only option, then get a bassinet (or portable crib) on wheels and put that baby in the living room, dining room, or even a bathroom! Its okay to factor your needs into the mix. I only had one baby and felt I came near to death from lack of sleep. I can only begin to imagine how you are coping. Ask for help from friends and relatives to babysit while you get an afternoon nap, Even if they just take the older one out for an afternoon.
J.L. answers from San Diego on October 24, 2008
Hi L., from what I have read in all ofthese mamasource questions and going by my daycare parents, there are sleep issues with breast fed babies. I started giving my babies rice cereal in their bottles at 6 weeks old, and they slept throufgh the night from six weeks on. My daycare moms that are in the Military and have to get up early for work switched to formula after 6 weeks so their babies would sleep through the night. J. L.
M.M. answers from Los Angeles on October 26, 2008
Breastfeeding has nothing to do with the sleep schedule. I breastfed both my boys to 1 year old. They were both great sleepers. Hang it there! It is probably just a growth spurt.
But make sure she really is hungry before going in to feed her. Give her 10 minutes to go back to sleep before you try feeding her. It's tricky when they are sharing a room because you don't want the baby to cry & wake up the older child. We had the same situation & had to move the baby to the office occasionally. I really think it's a gift to teach your child to go to sleep on his own. Give her a chance to discover a way to soothe herself.
A.W. answers from Los Angeles on October 24, 2008
Give it time she is after all only 3 1/2 months. My breastfeed baby is almost 6 months and is still waking up at night tp feed. My husband and I started about a week ago giving her a bottle before bed with 2 oz formula and 2oz breast milk, she olnt drinks about 3 - 3 1/2oz of the bottle. She sleeps better but not through the night. My first baby also breastfeed was sleeping through the night by 8 weeks, so I think it just depends on the baby. There really isnt much we can do as parents to get them to sleep trough. Good luck. I know every night when I go to bed I pray that this will be the night that she sleeps....and then she wakes up! I guess we should just enjoy the one on one time because before we know it they wont need us anymore.
R.L. answers from Los Angeles on October 24, 2008
i, too, am in the same situation. i have a 15 month old and a 3 week old daughter. both are breastfed and looking back on my baby log for #1, she got up every three hours if not more sometimes to feed. it didn't matter what time of day it was. i am, however, having problems with #2 waking up from 3 a.m. to 6 a.m. every night with a belly full of gas. she is very squirmy and won't basically sleep unless she is held. she is also in a bassinet next to my bed.
i would recommend putting your daughter into some type of either temporary crib like a pack n play in your room or transferring her into the room with your son. by month #2 for my first, we already had her in the crib and out of the bassinet. i don't think those bassinets are all that comfortable and getting her into a larger space might mean more comfort for her as well as a little distance from you.
we are planning on putting #2 into a pack n play pretty soon in our room since our first daughter is still in her crib in her own room. once she is ready to transfer out of her crib then we will put #2 in the room with her....hoping that will happen within the next year...
good luck and take naps! that is the only thing that saves me....
S.H. answers from Los Angeles on October 23, 2008
My son would wake up about 3 times a night by that time. I was just transitioning to formula (which helped) but i also started giving him a little bit of Rice cereal at night. Then since he slept longer, his daytime naps were shorter and fewer and he was sleeping through the night by 4 months.
But I know that I was lucky since my cousin's son is just now almost sleeping through the night and he turned one and the beginning of the month. Every baby is different. Good luck!
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