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Sleep Sense Program... Anyone Heard of It?

My son is 9 months old and I just now realized that what I THOUGHT was the right thing to do for him at night time, is in fact hurting his sleeping habits.

I would feed him dinner at 6:30, let him play a little bit, then bath time, then bottle & bed by 7:30. He would fall asleep as he finished the bottle, then I'd give him his pacifier and he'd be out for the count. (But only for about 4, maybe 5 hours) He's been waking up more often since he's started to stand on his own. We're not walking yet, but it won't be too long. I have such a hard time getting him back to sleep when he wakes after his initial 4-5 hr. rest. Unfortunately, I think that by giving the bottle, then the paci, while I rocked him is not allowing him to learn how to go to sleep on his own. Plus... not to mention putting himself back to sleep when he wakes during the night.

My husband and I read "Baby Wise" cover to cover, and lived and breathed the tactics that we took from that book. ALL of our friends who read "Baby Wise" say that it worked perfectly for them. I can't imagine that we missed the KEY TACTIC... That book was read twice and thumbed through time and time again after Brady was born. It helped get him on a feeding and napping schedule, but never really fulfilled the "Your baby will sleep through the night at 7 weeks" promise. He's 9 months old and slept through the night ONE time... (that was a glorious morning - Let me tell you!!) But it's never happend again. Baby Wise was a good book.. it just didn't completely work for our son.

I was looking at some information online about the Sleep Sense Program... It's gotten rave reviews. Aparently, 200 page Ebook that you download. There is a fee, I believe. I read that some mom's were passing along the link for the download... SHARING THE LOVE!! :-) I was just wondering is anyone has heard about the Ebook, or used the tactics with their kids. I'm really getting frazzled. I get maybe 4 hours of sleep at night... then I'm up with Brady, begging him to go back to sleep. All while I'm contemplating in my head what I could do at this point to fix it. My husband works very hard so that I can stay at home with our son, and I just want him to be able to get a good nights sleep before having to go to work. Now, it's gotten to the point where I myself, need to be getting a little bit more sleep so that I can function. The past week, Brady's been waking up after 4 hours of sleep, ready to get up and start another day. OR he'll be screaming. Both are very difficult to combat. I just want our little man to learn good sleeping habits. Sleep is SO important for our little ones. Please shead some light on the SLEEP SENSE PROGRAM for me.

Thanks in advance for all of your wonderful input. I truly appreciate it.

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I haven't heard of the Sleep Sense program, but I did read the Healthy Sleep Habits, Happy Child book and that worked for my son. I had also read the Baby Wise book and didn't find it helpful at all for my child. I now have 2 children, a 21 month old boy and a 9 week old girl. I plan to use the strategies in the Healthy sleep Habits book with her too. Good Luck and I hope you get some rest soon!
-A.

I didn't read those books and I didn't let my little one cry it out. Sometimes I even let him go to bed with me. I just watched my guy for cues. For a little while I would rub his back (no bottle or paci) and at each stage I would do what was good for that time. I didn't pay attention to what other children were doing because my boy was not those other children. And I save myself a lot of money by not buying those books. Instead I trusted my intuition with my child and hey, last night he gave me a big hug at 8:30 and said he's engine was tired and needed to rest and off to bed he went.

I had a similar experience with my first born. I thought it was important to hold him as much as possible, and loved rocking him to sleep. He ended up with the same problem - at about 9 months he wouldn't sleep long, and at that time, I had another baby on the way! I didn't want to spend all my time rocking babies to sleep, so I gradually taught him to fall asleep on his own. I took 'baby steps' with this - I started rocking him until he was nearly asleep and then laid him in his crib. After a couple days of that, I rocked him for just a few minutes and then laid him down in his crib, etc. I didn't take long for him to learn to fall asleep on his own - and it wasn't a harsh way for him to adjust! He started sleeping much better and longer - and was happier overall (me too!!!)

Hope that helps!!

J. G

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Hi L.,
I also read Baby Wise prior to my son being born..and it is good but I agree, it doesn't provide sound sleeping advice. My son is also 9 months..and sleeps from 6pm - 6:30 or 7pm without a peep. However, it was work to get him there. I highly recommend the book, Healthy Sleep Habits, Happy Child - try your Barnes & Noble or Borders Books or order it from Amazon. It is fabulous. But for the quick fix...based on the book and tons of my friends who have gotten their kids to sleep good...start his bed time routine early. Start it at 5pm. Feed him the bottle, food, bathe him, read him a book, rock him a bit and put him down. It's funny but you would think this is far too early. But basically, sleep begets sleep. If he wakes, do not go to him. Give him 20 - 30 minutes...and then go pat him, tell him you love him and leave the room. This might happen a few times that night b/c he is so used to you coming to him. It also might happen over the next 3 days...but the crying will get shorter as he will realize you are not coming. What you need to remember, is that he's smart - he wants to get out and play - but it's time to sleep. You know better than he does and by leaving him to cry...this will teach him to go back to sleep by himself (which is what you want). Try this routine for at least 5 nights. Try to be walking out of his room by 6pm. I really think putting him to bed earlier will help. It's crazy but if they are overtired...they wake more. If they are rested...they sleep more - this is where the earlier bed time comes in and you can get ahead of the overtired state. I've found that a 7pm bedtime for my son causes him to wake a night..but if I put him down by 6pm..he sleeps great!
The biggest mistake parents make is too late of a bedtime..according to the book - and I agree. Most of my friends let their kids stay up until 8ish...I think they wonder how I got my son to go to bed so early. But it's really b/c he's tired and only 8 months old. They need 12 - 13 hours of sleep. He should also be transitioning to 2 naps a day - around 9am and 1pm. I'm not sure what your son is doing...but a solid nights sleep will help him do this b/c he will wake around 6:30 - 7am and be ready for a morning nap about 9sh. It sounds like you struggle leaving him when he cries - it is hard but it's okay for him to cry. This actually is the best thing for him b/c it will teach him to sleep. Then, you will be happy and if mom is happy, everyone is happy. Good luck. Also, the book is a bit long..but it's written by a Dr. who specializes in sleep and organized by age - so you can easily skim the sections you need. Oh - I've never heard of the Sleep Program. Happy Sleeping! - C.

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L.,

I can't tell you what to do anymore than any of these other Mom's- I guess you've noticed this is a pretty touchy subject. It's a very personal decision but what is comes down to is are you willing to let him cry or not. I respect and understand other Mom's views that don't agree with cry it out but I am a fan. My pediatrician explained it this way- our job as parents is to help them eventually grow into functioning adults one day- baby step by baby step. As an adult, if you wake up in the middle of the night you don't have anyone to come comfort you but you know you must go back to sleep. It can be heartbreaking to hear them cry and not go them them but as a Mom you know the difference between a cry that says something is really wrong and a cry that just says I'm angry that I have to go to sleep. Also, they won't cry forever- they will learn to go back to sleep and this will be healthier for both of you. Good luck!

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Hi L.,

I haven't heard of Sleep Sense...but, after 13 and a half months of being up every two hours with our little one, my husband and I used the Baby Whisperer. We got the book The Baby Whisperer Solves all your problems from infancy to toddlerhood. I have to tell you it was a life saver for us! We did a combination of gradual withdrawal and then moved into walk in/ walk out. Another bonus is the baby whisperer website, where you can post questions, read other people's experience. We were desperate, and we followed the instruction and after about 3 weeks Samuel was not only sleeping through the night, but taking regular naps and putting himself to sleep without our help. We were walking zombies and now we actually have couple time after Samuel is sleeping, he has been sleeping through the night for about 5 months now...and I feel like a new person.

Hope this helps. Sorry I don't have info on sleep sense, but the baby whisperer saved us, it might be worth checking out.

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I am a grandma and have not heard of your book, but I will tell you that as long as you keep going to Brady, he will continue to wake up in 4 hours. I understand that you are primarily doing this so your husband can get some good quality sleep for work, very admirable, but you need sleep too. Babies are not the easiest of jobs, and actually the most important one of your life. You and your husband need to discuss the best time to ignore Brady and let him cry. He is not hurting himself, only your ears, but when he realizes you are not going to go to him, he will give up. It may take a few days, but it will work. A few days opposed to no sleep for a very long time is not much to ask. If you keep going this route you will have him walking into your bedroom until puberty.

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I looked at Sleep sense online too, but couldn't find anyone I know who'd actually tried it. I'm in a local mom's group that has about 500 members, and no one had tried it. I'd love to get a link to the download to check it out.

My son is 8 months old. At the advice of our pediatrician, we used the Ferber method. It only took a few days for him to sleep through the night (8 pm - 5 am). However, he was sleeping through the night since 2 months using Baby Wise. Then he got messed up at Christmas time with travel.

Good luck!

When my daughter was born over 3 years ago, my peditrician recommended NOT reading BabyWise. She did recommend the Happiest Baby on the Block and Ferber. I have 2 kids that are really great sleepers and have been at a very early age (3-4 months). I know a lot of people don't recommend Ferber, but I do think he understand the child psychee and sleep cycles and has recommendations on how to get a child to learn how to sleep on his own. Just some advice on a different author. I have not heard of the ebook - but, thank god, haven't needed sleep advice in a while. HOpe you find a solution that helps you!

L. I have heard of the sleep sense program. I was once in your shoes. My son did not start sleeping through the night till he was 14 months old. You are sooo lucky that you are getting to stay at home. I was working full time and not getting any sleep at all. My son would sleep for about 2 to 3 hours and then would wake up crying so I would go get him rock him back to sleep or stay up for a few hours with him and then he would go back to sleep and then we would repeat this all over again. I read many books and read everything on the internet. The best thing to do it just to let him cry it out. It is hard believe me but that is what worked for me. Let him cry for 5 minutes and then go check on him and then the next time wait 10 minutes and so on and so on. That is what I finally had to do. Good luck.

-A.

It may be possible that your child is taking too many or too long naps during the day. You need to only let him take one nap and not for very long during the day. It will be hard, but it will become easier with time. He will be cranky and fuss, but at night he will sleep deeply. Not all children need naps and not for very long if they do.

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