B.M. asks from Richland, WA on May 23, 2008
Seeking Opinions on AMA Membership
I am scheduled for surgery in the next few weeks. My husband and I have met with the neurosurgeon twice, and both felt comfortable with him. In addition, we have a friend who was operated on by this doctor with very good results. I just discovered that my surgeon is not a member of the AMA. Is that anything to be concerned about, or am I just being paranod?
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J.M. answers from Seattle on May 23, 2008
The AMA is just a club. It's a big club. (It's the largest medical association in the country.) And it's a club with a lot of political clout, but it's only a club. ANYONE who is a doctor can join as far as I know. And membership doesn't mean a thing with regard to a doctor's skill. The primary function of the AMA involves political efforts. If they are anything like the ABA, they also provide training, etc. for medical professionals and members of the AMA get a discount for taking their training. My guess is that the AMA also provides some advertising for and credibility to their members.
The analog for lawyers is the ABA (American Bar Association). I'm required to be a member of the Washington Bar Association to practice law in this state, but membership in the ABA would NOT give me a license to practice anywhere in America. (I would have to become a member of each individual state.) Although the ABA is the largest organization (club) in the world and is VERY well known, membership in the ABA does not mean anything except that someone is a licensed attorney who paid a fee to join the ABA club! (So even the absolute WORST lawyers can join without any problem!) I am not a member of the ABA because I don't want/need the advertising and I don't want to pay the dues, etc. I do enroll in some of the classes offered by the ABA, but I just pay full price. Neither my legal practice nor my professional reputation is harmed in any way by my decision not to join the ABA (and I may very well join at some point in the future . . . but it darn sure won't be before my kidlets are grown!).
Good luck with your surgery! Board certification and a positive recommendation by a former patient means a heckuva lot more than being a member of the AMA!
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C.T. answers from Seattle on May 23, 2008
Julie does a great job explaining it. What I would be more concerned about is wheter or not he's a board certified neurosurgeon.
Board certification requires testing, not just paying a joining fee.
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A.S. answers from Seattle on May 24, 2008
I concur with the other moms who advise to check out real qualifying agencies for this person, but not to worry about the AMA. I am also a doctor but cancelled my AMA membership years ago because it cost a great deal and their political agenda was not my agenda. I, do, however, keep up my board certifications and licensing requirements.
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D.V. answers from Portland on May 24, 2008
If this surgeon is working out of a hospital he has to be licensed. I would be more concerned about the state of his license, how long he's been practicing & where he went to med school. Membership in the AMA is not mandatory. Think of it as membership in AARP: just cause you're over 50 doesn't mean you need to join.
prayers for your swift recovery!
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E.T. answers from Seattle on May 24, 2008
My husband is a physician and not a member of the AMA....membership in the AMA is optional and has nothing to do with qualifications or licensing. It is more a political or lobbying arm of medicine plus there's a not so small fee to join. Perhaps you could look at your doctor's certifications or qualifications in neurosurgery. Best Wishes, EM
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M.M. answers from Seattle on May 24, 2008
A lot of people here do a good job of explaining it the fact that there is no correlation between the skills of a surgeon and a membership in the AMA. Being a physician, and prior member of the AMA, let me assure you that just about anyone who is a physician can join the AMA if you are willing to pay thier fee. (Even if you aren't board-certified, which is more important). This is not a honor society, credentialling society, or much more than a club for physicians who choose to join to support thier interest in a polictical realm. The fact your surgeon is not a member should not concern you at all. With all the societies a physician can join, each subspeciality having a society, then state, and regions, etc. and each costing hundreds and hundreds of dollars, you end up needing to be selective on which clubs you chose to join.
The things to look for are if your surgeon is board-certified, and if his license is in good standing with your state medical board (i.e. no infractions, complaints, etc.) Some states have this info available on line through the department of professional licensing.
My best to you and your future health.
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J.H. answers from Portland on May 25, 2008
I used to work for an affiliate of the AMA. The AMA is, by and large, a political lobbying organization and advocacy group for doctors and healthcare quality in general, not one that polices or provides professional training to physicians. Many very skilled physicians and surgeons do not belong to the AMA.
What you should be looking for is whether the surgeon is board certified or board eligible in his or her specialty. Board certification denotes a higher level of training.
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B.L. answers from Jacksonville on May 24, 2008
Trust your intuition and do your own due diligence. If you and your hubby felt good about him, then just check up with the neurosurgery licensing board and make sure he's on the up and up. I recently read "Protecting the Gift" and learned how important it is to trust your intuition, and then do all the research you can until you feel one way or the other, then go with it.
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