Seeking Help from the Hardcore Weissbluth Moms

Updated on February 19, 2010
M.R. asks from Chicago, IL
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I understand that sleep training or lack thereof is a hot-button topic. My request is not meant to stir up debate on the subject.

What I am hoping to find are moms who have followed the "Healthy Sleep Habits, Happy Child" by Dr. Weissbluth philosophy early on. I feel fairly versed on how to do things, but with my first son I didn't do anything formal until he was 6th months old.

My son is 10 weeks old, starting to somewhat consolidate overnight sleeping, but the daytime is all over the place. Also, the 'bedtime' has been pretty puzzling for us too.

If you think you can help, please respond here or send me a PM. Thanks a bunch! And, what I mean by that is...if you are interested in helping me with my specific questions, please let me know.

If your intention is to bash sleep training, say "it's too early" (without even knowing what my concern is), please save your time and energy for other requests where you can actually be helpful. If you're not into the Weissbluth method or sleep training - you need not respond - you won't be helpful at all! This is exactly why I am attempting to solicit PMs are attempts to get HELP from people who can actually help with my specific concerns, not just to spout off. I purposely didn't post my exact concerns because of the backlash it gets.

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S.S.

answers from Chicago on

I'm a huge Weisbluth fan, and his book helped me get my son to sleep through the night, but I am not sure exactly what you are asking? He states numerous times in the book that you are NOT to begin any sort of sleep training until at least 16 weeks. Try and hang in there until then!

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J.S.

answers from San Francisco on

IWeissbluth seems pretty intense about babies under 4 months just sleeping every 2 hours or so during the day. If he isn't quite following that pattern just watch for sleepy signs and soothe him to sleep so as to avoid him becoming overtired.

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M.S.

answers from Chicago on

FYI...
In case you don't have time to re-read the book, here is a link with some "cliff notes"
http://www.ehow.com/how_###-###-####_use-weissbluth-sleep...
Please note that is says, "Babies who are younger than 6 months old should not be allowed to cry it out using the extinction method. Young babies don't understand the concept that you're coming back for them, so their needs must be met as soon as possible."
Good Luck. I know these first few months can be VERY hard.

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J.V.

answers from Chicago on

I read Weissbluth a million times (along with a million other books) with my daughter. Since I didn't want to CIO, she got me up a million times a night until I night weaned her.

I now have a 10 week old that is a brilliant sleeper (he does a good 7-8 hour block every night). I have done nothing differently. I truly believe each kid just kind of does what he does. In any case, 10 weeks is too young to sleep train, and even Weissbluth admits there are kids that need to eat twice a night till they are 12 months old.

In any case, the daytime is hard. My little guy is all over the map, but it is to be expected. Morning naps consolidate around 12 weeks, and then, I believe, 4 weeks later a solid afternoon nap will emerge. While I am waiting, I still put my guy down about the same time every day, but I watch him more than the clock. We have a pattern of sorts because of my daughter and her activities, but really, what you need to do is watch for the yawn and make sure you are working on putting the baby back to sleep within 1.5 hours of wake up. Working the 1.5 hours is the key here, or they become over tired.

In any case, here's my guy's schedule(though, he is 10 weeks, so it varies a lot!):

3:00 nurse
5:am short feed
6-7 up
7:15 short 30 minute cat nap
8:00 nurse
9:30 nap
11:30 nurse
12:00 nap
1:00 nurse
1:30 Nap
4:30 nurse
5:15 (30 minutes)
7::00 nurse
7:15 short 30/45 nap
8:00 nurse
8:15 down for the night

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M.T.

answers from Chicago on

Ditto response from the others.... way too early to start sleep training!!! My youngest is now 2 1/2 and my oldest is now 4 1/2. I was much more hardcore with my first than second and my first sleeps like a rock. Of course, my second wakes fairly easily. Agreed with Marianne that maybe you need to read the book again. Both of my boys were definitly ready for naps at 2 hours and did this for some time. 10 months just seems way too young to sleep train... I am sure you would love for him to sleep all night but it will come. When you get to the crying at night time...most I let my kids cry was 1 hour and usually that was all they needed. Again, as someone else said it was less than a week and they went to bed great. I also did not start sleep training for both until 6 months.
Good Luck. He still needs you at 10 weeks!

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M.L.

answers from Dallas on

We have followed Weissbluth pretty faithfully with our 22 month old son, and the suggestions really do seem to work. For example: early bed time results in sleeping until 7-8 am, he stays in his crib for 60-90 minutes at nap time EVEN if he never goes to sleep, avoiding napping on the run.
My husband and I are both poor sleepers, so our son may have a genetic and environmental issue with sleeping.

At 10 weeks, your son is still figuring it out. You have to read Weissbluth several times to get all the subtleties of his methods- it is not straight-foreward (which is why many people don't like it). He states that very young infants are all over the place until 3-4 months and often don't have a set bedtime yet. Being vigilant about sleep cues is REALLY important.He also is clear that not all children follow the normal pattern, remember how he gives percentages of kids who are sleeping in a certain manner? This gave us hope with our son.
Our son slept "with" us until about 5 months due to extreme reflux problems. He would fall asleep "on" me and I would ease him into an elevated changing table pad on our bed. That was the only place he would sleep out of my arms. At about 5 months, once the reflux was under control, I started putting him in bed at bed time and leaving him there to go to sleep. I have NEVER gone back into the room to pat his back or "comfort" him, that would have made everything 100 times worse. He has cried for 90 minutes max. We have a video monitor so we can see he is ok.

I am not sure what specific questions you have, but you can pm me, and I will try to answer them.

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J.C.

answers from Chicago on

I'm definitely a hard-core Weissbluth mom! So if you have the book handy, pull it out and you'll see that 10 weeks really is too young to start formal training. 16 weeks is when Weissbluth recommends starting. But that is not to say that you can't start trying to implement a daytime schedule and watching for little cues with a 10 week old, and even putting a baby that young down awake and watching to see what happens. I hope you're not turned off by my response already and will keep reading. If you want to PM me please feel free. Obviously I don't know what your issues are, and I hope you don't construe my opinions as backlash, because I'm 100% pro-sleep training.

My daughter (now 4 1/2 yrs) was a super easy baby. She kind of just got it all on her own. When she was tired, she'd just drift off to sleep. She slept through the night (8 hours) at 8 weeks and just kept going from there. It wasn't until she was 6 months and I got tired of the cat naps during the day that I got all hard-core on her behind! :) It only took about 3 days and she was napping beautifully: two 1 1/2 hour naps a day and one 45 minute nap in the late afternoon, then off to bed for the night at 7, and up for a quick nurse at 5, then back to sleep at 7. But that wasn't until 6 months.

Now my son was a different story. SOOO much more "normal" than my daughter! As a newborn, he wasn't colicky, but he needed so much help falling asleep. He'd be awake for about an hour and just start fussing. Couldn't put him down. And nighttime was crazy. I remember when was about 10 weeks one night he finally slept like 9 hours at night. Whoo hoo! The next night though? He was up every hour and a half. Not kidding. I was a mess. Plus I had a 20 month old to take care of! So when the 16 week mark came around I really went hard-core. Put the Weissbluth book next to my bed, turned down the monitor and turned on my fan for white noise. Did the usual bedtime routine with my son, nurse, rock, etc. and put him down asleep at 8 or so. About 1 AM he woke up and started fussing, and then crying. I didn't go to him. I think it was about 1/2 hour and he was back asleep. Didn't wake up again until 4 AM, at which time I went and nursed him and then put him back to bed. The next night I did the same thing and he only cried for about 15 minutes. The 3rd night? Didn't cry. It was heaven. Daytime didn't go quite as smoothly; he almost always cried a bit (5 or 10 minutes) before naps for several months, but he always slept beautifully, sometimes 3 hours at a stretch.

So my point is that 10 weeks is still young; hang in there for 6 more weeks and then go for it! If you don't have a copy of the book in your home, get one and refer to it often. It really does work!

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B.W.

answers from Salt Lake City on

I'm a total die-hard Weissbluth mom!! :) And both of my babies have been sleeping through the night since 4 months old! I started putting them down at about 6 pm and letting them cry. Within a week, both of them stopped crying at all and slept until 7 the next morning. My older son is now 3.5, and he still goes to bed at 6:30. My daughter is 1, and she goes down at 6. I don't hear a peep out of either of them. My evenings are blissful!!! Good luck, let me know if you have any specific questions.

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M.K.

answers from Chicago on

Hi Mom M.R. Apparently no matter how specific you are in your posting, some people just don't get it! Feel free to PM me.

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