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Seeking Birth Information About Epidurals

I am trying to do some research on natural childbirth. In my experience as a doula, I have found that the mother's who ask for an epidural, usually do so at 4cm, This is the end of the latent stage of the first stage of labor. I am wondering if some mothers will share with me why 4cm seems to be hard to get through, to make it to the next stage of 4cm - 8cm. So far the reasons I have derived is that the mother is fatigued and unable to continue with an unmedicated birth, or the mother is hungry and unable to continue without proper nourishment. Of course, I don't discount that the mother is also in pain. Any feedback will be appreciated

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I have 2 children and did not have the epi with either one.
I hate needles and anything in my spine has be very
wary. The new mother in the room next to mine after I had
my second, requested one and they missed.

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I've never had an aversion to the idea of using an epidural, but I wanted to see how long I could go without one because I've always had a pretty high tolerance for pain. I was not dilated at all and my daughter was already 2 weeks late. On my second round of Cytotec, I finally started labor at 4:30 a.m. and my contractions were strong and less than 5 minutes apart by about 6:30 a.m. We went to the hospital and did the whole walking around, using the whirlpool, lower back massage, etc. They broke my water at about noon and my contractions were very strong and running 3 to 4 minutes apart. By about 3:30 p.m., I was beginning to worry that if I didn't go ahead and get the epidural, my window of opportunity would pass and I wouldn't be able to enjoy the birth because I would eventually be in too much pain. At that point, the doc (or nurse, I can't remember which) said I was at a 4 or 5 cm, but they were either lying or I closed back up somehow because at 8:15 p.m. when they finally came in and recommended a c-section, I was only at 3 cm.

I was in a lot of pain up until I got the epi, and the relaxation and other pain reduction techniques we had learned in our birthing class were helping a little. I was not overly tired or hungry that I can recall, but the number one reason I wanted to go ahead and get the epidural at that point was so I would be able to enjoy the birth of my child without worrying about the pain. I could have probably gone longer without it, but again, I knew I wanted the epidural to begin with so for me, it was just a matter of when, not if.

After they gave me the epidural and pitocin to strengthen the contractions even more, I had to wornder how much pain I would have been in had I not gotten the epi. The doctor said my contractions were huge and very strong. They were very close together and they were surprised I wasn't dialating better. I had been having problems with my blood pressure the last couple of weeks, so I think in the end, they opted for the c-section because of my blood pressure and because I just wasn't dialating, but if I had the opportunity to have a vaginal delivery again in the future, I would definitely opt for the epi again. I wanted to enjoy the births of my children, not worry about or have to work thru the pain. If I didn't have a choice, that would be one thing. But fortunately, I did and it was great getting to rest and actually get some sleep while waiting for my little bundle of joy to arrive. Without the epidural, that wouldn't have been possible, not for me anyway. Good luck on your research!

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i had mine at 8cm because they did not know I had progressed so quickly. I knew I wanted one, and begged at that time(8cm) because I felt incredible pressure/pain and I was feeling very faint from it.

With my first child I ended up having an epidural at 4 cm although I had planned on a natural birth. My Doula was with me and was great, but after laboring for 14 hours and still only at a 4 I allowed the dr to break my water. The labor then became so intense. I really think that if I had let my body do it's thing and not rushed the process that I may have been better able to tolerate the pain. It ended up being 26 hours of labor and really hard on my once I was so medicated. I could hardly push.

My second child came much quicker and I just go to the hospital in time. I was already at a 9 and even though I had planned to have an epidural it was too late. My son was born after only 20 min in the hospital. I was so amazed at the difference in how I felt. It was quick and I pushed him right out with no problem. My recovery was amazing too. I felt so energized immediately after.

Personally I think first births can be so much longer and the mother so afraid and not sure of what to do that she panics. Having a doula is a great help. I know if I had not had mine I would have asked for medication much sooner.

It is the pain. With my first child, I was induced (I was 2 weeks over my due date) and when the pain started it was fast and furious. I felt like I was hit by a train...no build up. I used a Nurse Midwife (who worked within in a OB/GYN) practice for my 2nd child and that was a wonderful experience...though I was very clear that I did want an epidural. I now have 3 children..used an epidural everytime. I would not have changed a thing and do not feel like the birth of my children were "lesser experience" or unnatural.

I do not feel epidural's take away from the birthing experience and women should not be discouraged from having one if it is what they want. Pain does not glorify childbirth nor is it a badge of honor. A healthy Mom and a healthy baby should be the goal of all births, regardless of how you get there.

I had my first child on Nov 27th, 2005, a girl coming in at 7 lbs., 13 oz at 1:15 am. I DID NOT have an epi (by choice) and hope to do it again this go around (due May 15th, 2007). Even though for me it wasn't the pain (I was handeling it well), I found the naseua was what got me thinking about possibly getting one. I was worried about getting sick/vomitting (becasue it felt to me like that was going to happen sooner or later) and lossing my strength that way. The nurse gave me something for the naseua, though, and stadol for pain (which I now wish I wouldn't have had because I was pretty much out of it until time to push) and I made it through the naseua.

I know you were wanting info strictly on epis and what it is that cases women to want/get them, but I thought you might want to know what made me CONSIDER one even when I had said from day one that I DIDN'T WANT ONE (I believe in most cases the body can handle birth on it's own).

Hope this helps. And here is some further info on my 1st child's birth if it may at all help you

1-I took childbirth classes and learned relaxation techniques, though didn't practice much before birth
2-I labored mostly at home and would have continued to do so but I was leaking fluid. Got to the hosp at 6 cm. but they did end up busting my fluid at the hosp.
3-was only at the hosp under 2 hrs before delivery
4-I knew instantly when I was ready to push, without even being checked and without the dr. present
5-My baby girl was born in 2 pushes!
6-I was also given anti-seizure meds (Can't remember the name, but it is mentioned on one of your other replies and is given farely often for this prob in this situation) because I had high blood pressure throughout preg. and my sister has "petite mal" seizures from time to time.

Also, as I said I am due in mid may w/ my second (but my ist daughter came 1.5 weeks early) and was wondering if you could answer a question for me???? Since I was only at the hosp for under 2 hrs w/ my first child and prob would have stayed home longer had I not been leaking fluid, when do you think I should go to the hosp. w/ my second child?? I know that the second labor is usually quicker than the first and I live 20-25 min from the hosp. this time where as the first it was only 10 min or less away. I still want to do most of my labor at home (for comfort measures) but don't want to cut it too close. Last time I waited until I knew I was leaking and my contractions were 5 or 6 min appart (I think 5). Any info from a pro would be greatly appreciated! I just hope I can stay at home a good while but get to the hosp in time also for the dr to also get there in time!

Thanks!
T.

I was determined to have a natural childbirth and read about the Bradley Method. It helped sooo much! I don't remember any point at which the "pain" changed or became extremely worse, it was all so gradual that I was able to adapt. I got to a 9 and it was hard work and felt like very tight squeezing, but this was 3 yrs ago so maybe I forgot the agony! haha. Then my dr said I needed a c/s. I still don't believe I did since there were no problems (I won't go into all of that), but as soon as she gave me the epi, I went back down to a 7-8! That's what I've always heard one of the major drawbacks w/an epidural is. I am, by no means, a "tough girl" and don't normally do well w/pain, but this is so different. I don't believe it matters what your "threshold" of pain is, if you are determined to do it, you certainly can. Everything I've read also says to tell your nurses ahead of time not to offer the epidural, but that you'll ask if you need one. Once you are at a 9 or just feeling "the squeeze", I always say, they could've told me they were going to pull him out of my nose and I would've said "OKAY"!! I just mean at certain points you'll agree to anything and may regret it later. It's just very tiring and you aren't thinking clearly (which is one way, I got thru it, I think).By the way, I was at a 3 for the last month of my pregnancy so I guess by 4, I was just really getting started!! HAHA

I can't speak for others, but I used an epidural with both of my kids and I was just in alot of pain and wanted relief. It seemed to get more intense to me right before I was given the epidurals.

She's correct, it's the level of pain. The epidural can be a godsend and get you and the baby through the last part of birthing with just enough energy and focus to treasure the experience. It's easier on everybody actually.
C. S.

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