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Seeking Advice on the Baby Wise Feed/Wake/Nap Routine

My little girl is 3 weeks old today and I have read the Baby Wise book. It came highly recommened by friends and my pediatrician. She is doing great on the feeding every 3 hours and the wake time that follows but I am having a very hard time getting her to sleep on her own. I have followed the guidelines that allow up to 20 minutes of crying after you put them down for a nap. Although, I have not been able to last that long but I have for 10 minutes. She will be awake for about the first 30 min not crying just fussy then she gets hysterical and cries. I go in and comfort her and resettle her but she will do this for the whole nap time. She will fall asleep for about 10 minutes but then she will be up again. She usually gets good and asleep about 15-30 minutes before it is time to wake and eat again! The book says they need to sleep and 1-1/2 hours at least and eat every 3 hours.....How do I accomplish this?? I know the long term goal is a good sleeper and eater but am I doing something wong? Any suggestions, PLEASE!! Thanks!

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T.,
It's been a long time since I had a little one, but my daughter is expecting any day. Have you tried putting a small radio in their bed or close by? The constant noise helped mine go to sleep, perhaps they feel they are not alone.

Hope this helps.
P.

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I found Baby Wise to be rigid. Although I do think it has some valuable information! I also read The Baby Whisperer which is similar but I liked it better (I got it at the library). 3 Weeks is a little young. It is good to get them into a sleeping routine but I really wouldn't expect it to be consistent until about the age of 4 months.
Good luck!

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I completely disagree with the BabyWise method. Newborns need tender loving care, not a strict schedule. Many older toddlers benefit from a loose schedule, but it is not appropriate for a baby under the age of about 6 months.

If you search online, you will find many people whose children were diagnosed as Failure to Thrive because parents were using the BabyWise method. As a mother of a child whose firstborn had to be re-admitted to the hospital at one week of age for dehydration, speaking from experience, you don't want to go down the road of denying your child milk/sleep/interation/cuddling when they need it. I have Lupus and Sjogren's Syndrome, which is a fluid imbalance. I didn't produce enough milk with either of my children, even after they put me on that medication that increases milk supply. I had to pump 24 hours to get 4 ounces. We thought my daughter was getting enough milk, but she was just exhausted, and so were we, after my labor of 34 hours ended in a c-section. With my second, I just pumped for about a month and that was it. I couldn't do it anymore. I am only able to talk about (type) this without tearing up, and my daughter was born 5 years ago!!!!

Finally, a baby cannot manipulate you. They just can't. But a toddler is a different story! LOL!!!

Good luck and blessings to your family!
J.

PS- Based on the statement of the American Academy of Pediatrics regarding BabyWise, I think if my children's pediatrician endorsed or recommended it, especially for a young baby, I would RUN THE OTHER WAY AND LOOK FOR ANOTHER PEDIATRICIAN. I can't emphasize that enough.

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Hi T., this may be bad advice, but I have 3 children and only tried the baby wise thing for a short time with my first. In my opinion, babies at this age are not ready to be scheduled. I learned with my second and third that when youre not trying too hard, they actually schedule themselves. She will sleep until she is hungry (and I agree with the advice of not waking her up) and you will find it will be 3-4 hrs. The best advice I can give you is to RELAX and enjoy that baby girl. They grow up so fast and you'll look back on this time and wonder way you stressed about it. Love her, hold her, rock her---you cannot spoil a baby at this age, I dont care what "Baby Wise" says. I have seen that book do a lot more stress than good to new moms!!!

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Trying to put a 3 week old on a trained schedule is extremely dangerous! The American Academy of Pediatrics (which your pediatrician should be very familiar with) has stated very clearly that they do not recommend following the guidelines in the Babywise book. Trying to train infants has been linked to dehydration and failure to thrive. If you feel strongly about continuing to try to train your baby, at the very least, never let your newborn sleep through the night without feeding. Newborn babies need to feed at least every 2 hours to thrive. Look at askdrsears.com for an alternative (and safer) view on how to get your baby to sleep.

Please read this website article before continuing to use the babywise method...
http://www.salon.com/mwt/feature/1998/08/cov_06feature.html

...and this excerpt is from a website called keepkidshealthy.com :

"On Becoming Babywise is another controversial book that has been described as 'dangerous' and that it could lead to 'poor weight gain' in babies. The AAP News magazine said that Babywise has been linked to 'dehydration, failure to thrive' and many Pediaricians and lactation consultants have come out against the book."

Please talk to your pediatrician about the dangers of this type of "baby training". Don't always trust everything your pediatrician tells you. It's okay to question their advice, and if you feel you can't, then it's time to see a different pediatrician.

Good luck with everything!!!

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I've always used a similar method at 3 MONTHS never 3 weeks, infact, I'd always been told not to use it before 2 1/2 - 3mths. 3wks is VERY small to let cry for 20mins, and I'm definitely one to put my babies down and let cry, but never that young. All of mine (except #4 because of crazy circumstances) were sleeping through the night right at 2 1/2 - 3 mths (They say 2 1/2 mths AND 10lbs at least), and this was when they learned to sleep on their own. Just a word of caution, When you let them cry that much at such a very young age, it can VERY easily backfire and make her Not trust you, which will make her cry even more, then you'll be stuck with a screaming baby on your hands who's still not sleeping at 9mths. The main thing is to just not lay your baby down when she's fallen asleep from eating, and it's best to do it when she's awake if you can. That age is also really young to have on an actual nap schedule. I don't usually get my kids on an actual schedule for naps until around 6mths, and it's always worked out great with no problems. Before that, they're going through too many changes all of the time. About 6mths is when they're starting to get consistent with things and wanting and needing a schedule.

Just treat her like a baby for the first few months. Know that babies can not be spoiled that little, no matter what anyone says. The first few months is all about building trusts with them. Try this method instead. http://www.amazon.com/Your-Baby-Can-Sleep-practical/dp/09...

It's a video, and it's absolutely amazing. It worked with ALL 4 of ours, and every single person I've recommended it to has tried it and has been very successful with it. I've only been able to find it on VHS, though. We rented it from our local library w/ #1, then we rented it again with each baby after just to remind us of exactly what we were supposed to be doing. With this method, you do it when you're ready (at least around 3mths), and it WILL work if you have the strength. It took my 1st (who was waking up every 1 1/2hrs up until the point when we decided to do this at 2 1/2mos) 2 nights until he was sleeping through the night. It took #2 3 nights, #3 a week (because he was in our room, and it's a LOT harder when they're in the same room as you), and #4 2 nights once we finally moved her to her own room.

HTH
K.

Mom of 4, 3 boys and a baby princess (7 1/2mos, 2, 4, & 5)

p.s. My baby is STILL eating every 2hrs like she's done since the day she was born. Not all babies are the same, so that can't possibly work for them all.

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Congratulations on your new baby! I've never used Baby Wise, but I've heard mixed reviews on it. A friend of mine used it for her first baby and it worked well, but seemed to be having a harder time with her 6 week old. When I brought my little one home I tried to give him somewhat of a schedule for the first couple of weeks and it didn't work so well at all. The hardest part was trying to keep him awake for any length of time. I then decided to just tend to his needs and do things on demand - sleep whenever he's tired and feed him when he shows signs of hunger. I never let him cry it out (they need security at that age) and I cuddled with him a lot, but once he was sleepy I put him in his crib. He worked himself into a schedule based around what I was doing as a routine (at least at night and in the mornings.) By 7 weeks he was sleeping through the night on his own (from 10pm to 6:30am!) He's now 4 months old and still sleeps through the night. I keep him on a schedule, but it's a loose one. He's very happy, healthy, and growing well. All babies are different and some need more of a schedule than others. She'll let you know what she needs. As her mother, you know what's best for her so try not to stress about what a book says if it doesn't work for your baby. Good luck!

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I am so sorry that you are having trouble. I have a 3 year old and a 6 month old. I have never used a book to do sleep schedules and routines. I am shocked a little for letting a baby cry for 20 minutes. A baby at 3 weeks needs comfort and they do know when you are not there. I personally do not think that a baby that young can possibly understand that this is what we are doing and you need to do it exactly this way. Even on the food I think a baby will eat when they are hungry. They have a natural alarm clock like adults do. You know when you get up at 6 every morning and on a weekend without a clock you will wake up at that time. Babies that age still have nights and days confused and they don't generally adhere to our set schedule. Maybe I should read the book but both my kids did all of the "scheduling" in their own time. Normally my magic number was 3 months. Good luck and if you can make it work... well that's wonderful.

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T., when I read your post my heart went out to you. One of my girls, my 25 yr old who is now M. to little Emily, 4 months, had sent me the Mamasource site and a flower, so I have gotten a couple of the newsletters. Hon, I am mother to 5 who range from 42 down to my 18 yr. old freshman in college. I also have 8 grandchildren and two step-grandkids. Sooo pretty much any baby or child rearing issue I have dealt with one way or another.. haha. T., I dont know anything about that book, truly, but if that is the tone of it, I would be in favor of BURNING it. Leaving a newborn to cry for that length of time is destructive and painful. If you continue that way, the message the baby gets is that her needs will not be met and she will be come more unsure of you and herself. The most common trait you will see in babies who are left to cry is a fearfull attitude, NOT confidence. All they know those early months is what WE teach them by giving them a safe, warm, secure environment. Look at it as building a huge steady platform from which to leap into life. The more solid that base, the easier it is for them to leap. With this in mind I have 5 people who went into life with a good degree of self confidence that began to appear by the time they were school age. They are all confident loving parents (well,except the college girl!) and I am thankful. Listen to your own heart and instincts, usually your best guide, and please please shy away from ANYONE who tries to tell you "Put that child down and let her work it out!" They are WRONG.. just flat wrong. Now go and cuddle and love and laugh and cry with that precious person you will share the rest of your life with!
In all love and prayer,
Sammie

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Hi T., Congratulations on your newborn! I feel that 3 weeks is too young to start "sleep training." At that age, she just needs to be nurtured and cuddled when she cries. Try a swing or a bouncy seat when she can't get settled for a nap. Crying it out will only wake her up more. I hope this helps.

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