S.R. asks from Orlando, FL on February 12, 2007
Seeking Advice on Friendship
I'm having this on going issue with a long time friend. Our friendship is important to me and we've know each other for about 12 yrs now. I've stopped talking to her for a few months and we've even talked very open about it. It's her drinking! She is a fun person to be around when she's not hammered. I've always been the one to drive the 30 min. it takes to see her. Of course because she usually already had one or two beers.. So I go to her and hangout. Everythings fine until out of now where "DRAMA" starts. Never fails everytime I go there latley something always seems to happen. I know it's from her drinking so much she's out of it. The next day she don't remember and I'm guess I'm just sopose to forget about about it. She asked me to come over and when I get there shes drunk,the point where she's not even fun to be around. She blairs music goes in her own little world and acts like she's the most miserible person in the world. Early in the day she is not like this. She get mean and says nasty things, just out of control. So my point is I guess, Sat. night this happened again and I have not talked to her since. She probley has an idea that I'm upset with her. I want to talk to her about this "again" in hopes one day she'll change and get help or do I wash my hands....??
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Thanks everyone for responding to my issue,it was very helpful to hear everyones diffrent ideas on how to handle the situation. I plan on talking to my friend and having another heart to heart. I will continue to be supportive and encouraging. If I'm ever in the need of help thats the kind of friend I would want. Thats true friendship to me! Thanks everyone!
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H.R. answers from Boca Raton on February 12, 2007
Ya know what sweetie? You've got enough going on in your life without having to deal with your friend. As I have grown up, I have left a lot of friends by the side of the road while they continue to do what they do and I move on my way. Since having my baby I find there is a tremendous disconnect with my friends who don't have kids and who continue to "party hearty". I prefer wholesome, pura vida to drama. There are plenty of great people out there who make satisfying friendships and who reinvigorate you rather than have you question yourself, use your resources and time, etc. Sadly I think it's time to move on.
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A.G. answers from Orlando on February 12, 2007
My advise would be to decide what would be respectful to you.
You can tell her that you guys can go hang out so long as she does not drink, invite her over to your house or go out shopping whatever, you will be there for her if she needs you, but being a friend does not mean that you have to go hang out with her and drink with her. You are enabling her to sink deeper in her hole. Be aware that she will probably lash out at you and might not want to talk to you anymore. If you do care about her just stay strong in what is respectful for you at the same time showing her that you are there to help her if she is willing to help herself. But just remember she is very low right now & miserable and the saying goes misery loves company.
She seems to be stuck pretty deep in an addiction. Does she realize she is depressed because the life she is living? The drinking, being stuck, not living her life to all she can? These are all things she has the power to change. Try talking to her when she is sober about things she tells you when she is drunk. Unfortunately you cannot change her as much as you might want to, she must choose that on her own.
May your friend be blessed with strength and you with wisdom to overcome this time.
A.
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K. answers from Boca Raton on February 12, 2007
Thats a hard one, because if she doesn't want to hear it she won't... But to make yourself not ever feel that something was left unsaid I think you should tell her what is bothering you.... Again I wouldn't expect her to understand and see things your way and all of a sudden want to change but if she hears it enough it may sink in...
Good Luck
K.
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S.B. answers from Fort Myers on February 14, 2007
This reminds me of a movie, When a Man loves a Woman, with Meg Ryan in it. Great movie, i have watched it several times. This might give you some insight and maybe maybe maybe you can get her to watch it :) (ps of course it is about alcoholism)
S.
J.Z. answers from Miami on February 26, 2007
Well it sounds to me like your friend unfortunately is someone that may not be a very good role model for your kids. I know you think well how can my friend be a role model to my kids shes just my friend I dont even bring them around her too much, but trust me honey just a little exposure is more than enough for kids. When we are mommies we always need to think that the people we allow into our heart (friends or family) and homes are being exposed to our children , and is that kind of behavior something you want your babies to be around?
I know you care for her very much. But honestly someone who drinks that much or has a drinking problem doesnt love themselves too much. She really needs to get in that place in her life where she is happy with who she is to where she doesnt need alcohol. When she can love herself while being sober she can then recipricate that caring relationship to you as you do to her.
Since you care for her so much. Look up some rehabilitation centers or AAA meetings in her area for her. Hold an intervention between you and her and maybe the people who love her and give her the ultimatum. Say listen I love you like if we were sisters and Im telling you this and asking you to do this because I love you. You can hate me for it but I will still love you even if you dont want anything to do with me after this. These are some centers or AAA meetings that I feel may benefit you. REally your drinking use to be fun and hillarious but you have gotten to the point where you say or do things that hurt me and to be quit honest I dont feel comfortable with my kids seeing you this way. I would like for you to get help or seriously we can not be friends anymore. You tell her that it hurts you to see her destroying herself this way and all though it will hurt you to walk away from you friendship the hurt will be a lot less than watching her disintergrate with the alcohol. If shes ready and it really sinks in what you are telling her she will make a change. It might not ever happen that same day but when she is ready she will know. You confronting her like this may be what she really needs. The more important thing while doing this is that you confront with her love and loving words. Not anger. People do not react well to anger they just shut down. So if you go into it with anger or even have to say " IM not angry at you" then you might have lost her from that point on. Hope this advice works our for you Good luck...
M.S. answers from Miami on February 13, 2007
I think that she needs a lot of attention.From what it sounds like, she could use a good friend(man) in here life. I won't say that she is jealous but in a way yes of your graet family life.I at times when I was single(not so long ago,or not a solid relationship of my own) I would feel the same with my freinds that had a solid relationship, not on purpose but just because I wanted one too.I have a son but it didn't feel like enough I wanted more in my life.I theink it is a combination of her both needing help with drinking & wnating attention.To help your friend try a "fixerup" Fix her up with a nice positive gentleman taht is more positive and would try to make her see a brighter side of life.but please, advise her to straighten up a bit because if she is just a plain "bum"; not saying she is he would not even ask her on a 2nd date.There are nice guys out there you know(does your hubby have any friends you can hook her up with?)She's bored and you know that you can't do everything like you used to (when you were single) You don't want to jeopardize your family because remember they will always be there, friends aren't.This way you have a compromise with your family & here;everyone gets what they want and you have peace because I know you worry about her, she is your friend.But anyway who am I, I only see my friends about once a month if that,we all have an understanding and our own lives, if anything is important we get together or for a girls night out occasionally but we're always friends, besides my boyfriend, & my son,I only have 2 close friends.I hope this helps,but ultimately she needs to stop drinking so much,and oh yeah she needs to get layed!(sorry, I'm a blunt person)
K.J. answers from Melbourne on February 13, 2007
I have a friend like that. I had to distants myself from her even though I hated too. We were best friends, always together. Then something changed. She started to drink alot, and was fun at first, but the more she drank the less fun she became. Just talk to her and tell her that you love her but you don't want to be around someone that gets so miserable when they drink. Say you want to have drinks now and then to let loose, not get more stressed!!!! If she does not change don't hang out with her when she is drinking. Don't stop being her friend though. She may be going through something that she needs help with.
T.Q. answers from Orlando on February 12, 2007
S.,
I had to give up a friend for the same reason. I love her dearly and I still miss her, but I couldn't handle the drama. I was recently married and so was she and I had to choose between my life and hers. She tried to contact me a few times, but I just ignored her completely. She was totally unreasonable when she was drunk, so there's no way we could have worked it out. I did what was best for me. I don't know if she learned a lesson or anything, but I had to put myself first (for once).
If you are truly dedicated to your friend and you don't want to give her up, you should try to recruit as much support from her friends and family and have an intervention. Check out this article on how to stage an intervention:
http://alcoholism.about.com/cs/intervention/ht/interventi...
You may not feel like it's your place, but your friend definitely needs help. I wasn't strong enough to help my friend, but I can still pray for her to get help and be happy again someday. You just have to do what's right for you.
Good luck.
-T.
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