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Santa - Virginia Beach,VA

I am pretty sure someone has asked this before but i was unable to find any answers. My question is when do kids find out that there is no santa? My oldest son is 8. My husband is deployed right now and it bothers him that our son still believes in santa. He thinks he is too old to still believe, and that i am babying him. It doesn't bother me that he still believes but i also feel like it is a turning point in a kids life. I was so devastated when I found out as a kid. It is hard to remember that far back lol but i think my friends were the ones who told me. I feel like once he knows he wont be my "baby" any more and i am not ready for that. I do go out of my way to keep santa alive in our house. Every year he gets a letter in the mail from santa and a phone call on christmas eve. Our youngest son is too little to understand what is going on. I know there are some who feel it is wrong to "lie" to the kids about santa. I am thinking this will probably be the last christmas he will believe in santa so i am trying to enjoy it all. Is an 8 year old boy too old to still believe in santa? my husband has agreed to not tell him this year but i think if he doesn't find out next year he will tell him. Any advice on this would be great. Am i doing this more for myself than for my son? I am really confused....................

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Thank you all so much for all the comments. I feel i can breath a sigh of relief now. :) I love the ideas of asking him what he thinks about santa. I truly think he still believes. When he got the letter in the mail the other day he was so excited to rip it open and read it. I think the thing that bothers my husband so much is that this is his 5th deployment away from us. He is NOT a big holiday person because he has been gone for so many holidays they dont really mean anything to him anymore. A lot of the time i feel if i didn't do EVERYTHING for the holidays it would never happen.I do all of it for the kids. I always want it to be the best for them even though we are so far away from family and a lot of the time away from my husband. I do think he wants our son to "man up" as one person said. It could have a lot to do with him always being deployed and not toughening him up as a male. This is probably a whole nother question and problem LOL. :) ANYWAY, i do appreciate all the feedback on this. I will let him figure it all out on his own. I will also talk with my husband about all of it, and i hope he too will let our son just enjoy this time and let him come to us about santa. THANKS AGAIN!!! HAPPY HOLIDAYS EVERYONE!!

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At that age I knew he didn't exist but still pretended for the benefit of my parents (and also thought I might not get the presents if I didn't "believe")! Is it possible he could be doing this? If so, no real harm... you could just kind of do a wink-wink when you talk about "Santa" so that he doesn't feel you are lying, just playing along with the game.

Why would you want to ruin Christmas for him by telling him? I have 3 boys and my oldest was 12 before I felt the need to share the secret and frankly I wish I hadn't since my 9 yr old came to me soon after and asked point blank. I did tell him too (in 4th grade) but he's always been more cynical. I think the longer they can believe the better. There was great debate in the 5th grade class about it as I recall and theories were flying. They were trying to catch santa on video. My answer was always "if you don't believe, he won't come." That held him off for a few years. Once you do tell them you risk the chance of ruining it for their friends and younger siblings. The longer they can stay innocent the better in my opinion. Stay strong.

Let children believe as long as they will! My daughter is 8 and she still believes - it is magical. When my daugher was visiting with Santa this year, I spoke to him (he has been Santa for 47 years)! He originally didn't want to be a Santa because he didn't want to lie to children, but he realized that there are lots of different Santas in the world. He has written several books (which I haven't yet read - since I just found out myself), but I'm going to point you to his website: santaone.com. Have a Merry Christmas!

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Children raised with the idea of Santa (etc.) will believe in him until they are ready not to believe any longer. For my own daughter that was around age 10. At that time knew a family in another state where the Dad was about to die from cancer. They had a DD about 8, and naturally the family's energy was not really focused on Christmas that year. When my DD discovered what was happening, she felt that she should make sure her friend had a good Christmas, and organized a toy drive for the girl - sending a letter to a local church explaining the situation, and getting neighborhood friends involved. About 2 weeks later we met with a mutual friend at the halfway point between our homes and gave her the wrapped gifts for the girl. When we got home, my daughter wrote thank you notes to those involved. It was only by becoming one of "Santa's helpers" that my DD became ready to let go of her belief in the commercial idea of the Big Guy at the North Pole.
About 2 years before, my DH had gone grocery shopping with her and bought the Easter Candy. I was sure the jig was up and she would no longer be a believer. I tried talking to her about it to see if she had put the pieces together, but she just felt that since her Dad had bought candy, that just meant that there would be more for everyone that year. So, at 8 and 9 my DD believed in the child's version, and by 10 she was ready to believe in a more adult version of Santa (etc.), it all depends on the child.
I'm with you. Let the child find out on his own. Childhood lasts for such a short time. If school friends tell him there is no Santa - or he is a baby for believing in him - he will probably come to you for the truth. What you tell him then, or don't tell him, is a whole other issue.
Happy Holidays-there are a lot of them this time of year!

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B. - I found out about Santa when I was 11. It was a totally humiliating situation and because of that I never told my own children about Santa. Here's what I told them, "Santa is a make pretend man. You get your gifts from the people who love you". They were still able to 'pretend' with Santa, they were still surprised by the gifts, but they knew who gave them. Another added advantage was that they were able to thank family memebers for their kindness.I think you can re-spin your Santa tale for your son. Do it while he is still in the single digits. C. F.

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HI,
This is very long so I hope you have time to read. My husband and I both responded so grab a cup of coffee!

Our youngest son is 12 and the last to go through this "revelation" that happened just last year at age 11.

He was in his last year of elementary school when he figured it out. Believe me, they get a lot of prodding from their friends that Santa doesn't exist, even from kids who are still trying to figure it out for themselves and trying to see who still believes like they do but are afraid to show it. Your son is not the only one in his class to still believe. I think Middle School is usually the age when NONE of the kids believe anymore.

For the past few years we have been "lax" with our preparation/buildup for Santa's mystery in order to help him to figure it out on his own. We gradually reduced our involvement of playing Santa's promoter in our house but we didn't "tell" our kids.

Our idea is to let the kids figure it out for themselves by HELPING them come to that decision on their own but positively NOT "telling" them. It is such a letdown to be told. It's like having someone tell you your favorite friend is dead. To kids, Santa dies and they seem to go through a mourning process that frustrates them because no-one seems to understand. And especially if it happens BEFORE Christmas, they have to deal with this "death". Not good.

When asked by our kids "does Santa really exist" we answer "well, what do YOU think"? We stop confirming and demanding that Santa is real so we're not "lying". "If you want Santa to be real then he is to you" is another thing we say. This does not confirm or deny to the kids of his existence. "Santa lives in you if you want him to". "Santa is part of the wonder and mystery of Christmas and he'll live in your heart as he does in mine". The truth is that St. Nicholas WAS a real person who delivered gifts and of course he's long dead but we continue the tradition because it's a nice part of the holiday.

Last year, we didn't know it but we made a lot of noise when putting out our Santa gifts before going to bed and our son heard it, and then heard us talking as we walked by his bedroom door. This was the turning point for him I think. He put two and two together on his own and declared to us that we were Santa. We didn't deny it but told him that he could think what he wanted and we believed in Santa in our hearts the way that all children do.

We try to let our kids mature all on their own. Just yesterday our 18 year old told us he had put his enormous collection of Lego's in a box in the attic for his kids. We had no idea. And all of his favorite stuffed animals and precious "can't live without" childhood memory items have been lovingly tucked into a box in his closet...also by him. Once again, he did this on his own and I'm sure he's planning on sharing these also with his children. There is no need to dispose of these beloved items "for" them. They will put them away when they're ready, just like Santa. All of us mature in our own time.

Back to Santa: When our oldest son no longer believed, we allowed him to fill the stocking of his younger brother AND he helped to buy those little gifts. We went out shopping together and it was a "right of passage" that we continue which helps us to enjoy Santa on a different level. He now gets to play Santa for his brother and he loves it. Now that my youngest no longer believes, I'll take him shopping for the stocking presents for his 18 year old brother and for the stocking items for his father and let him fill it just the same. We continue to put little items into the stockings just because it's fun and adults love to dig through a stocking for small items too. He will now know that his brother has been doing this for him for several years.

When all is said and done, what harm is it causing for your son to continue believing? When your kids come bounding down the stairs in the morning to see what Santa has brought, it is clear that Santa DOES exist, even though it's just in their minds.

Now for the response from my husband to yours!

My wife shared this with me so I just had to add to it. From one "old solider" to a younger one: I retired in '97 after 24 years of faithful service and I thank you for yours right now. We appreciate all you both are doing. Thank you for your service and thank you to your wife for supporting you in that effort.

I feel sad at the thought of no Santa for children because someone declares he is not real. Santa is as real as the father or mother who puts those presents under the tree. Look at the sheer wonder and joy in the child's eye when they see those presents. The real St Nicholas may be gone but his legacy lives on in every parent's heart and every child's mind.

I've even put on the suit and played Santa. Do that just once and you'll see just how real he truly is. It may be the parent (or older siblings) putting the gift under the tree or filling the stockings, but take a look in the mirror when you do it--you'll see that little Santa twinkle in your own eye. When the time comes that your son does find out, you can "initiate" him into the other side of the world of Santa and let him place the gifts out for his younger siblings and help keep the love alive.

You will be "mentoring" him how to do it for your own grandkids. He can still enjoy having Santa in Christmas, he's just more a part of the history and can enjoy playing Santa with you and your wife, while sharing winks and giggles with you as you three help the younger kids to enjoy this beautiful family tradition.

When the time came, this is how we explained it to our boys when they declared that they no longer believed, or when we could tell by our older son's rolling eyes when he was about 12. "It is part of the magic of Christmas. Santa doesn't have to make the trip around the world in one night--he has millions of parent Santas doing the job for him".

Oh, believe me. Santa is as real as we want him to be. Let your kids believe as long as they want. They have to rest of their lives to harden for the real world. Sadly, the world will harden your children's hearts all on it's own. All kids eventually grow up and indicate to their parents when they want the "babying" to stop whether it's through rolling eyes, verbal requests or whatever. These moments are more sad for the parents than you can know right now...until you have an 18 year old and you're looking back, wishing for the playfulness and sillyness of the younger days. You WILL miss these days.

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Your husband should keep quiet and leave this alone. He will find out when he is ready to find out. There is so little magic left in the world, why not let him believe for another year or 2? My nephew was 11 before he stopped believing. We all wonder if he really knew but just pretended to believe in the fear that he wouldn't get as many presents if he stopped believing, but none of us were willing to risk asking him. I remember figuring it out when I was about 5 or 6 from a price tag on a gift. And I remember at lunch in the 4th grade all the kids teasing a girl that still believed, but she held out in her belief that santa still existed. You could eventually teach him that santa is a symbol for giving to others. Enjoy his belief while it lasts.

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I totally disagree with your husband. Most 9 year olds I know still believe. I think a child should believe as long as they want.

Hey - with Dad far away this is not the time for your son to lose Santa. That said - Dr Phil addressed this very thing recently. Let the child give you clues about when he wants the truth. He will start asking if Santa is real or if Mom & Dad buy all the presents - then he is really ready to give up the myth. And I don't think it should be considered "lieing". It is just that wonderful magical thinking that all children do. They get to enjoy it for such a short time - let them have it for as long as they wish. Once they start to ask about the truth about Santa - that is when you make sure that the truth is always told and expected. I hope that helps!!!

Why would you want to ruin Christmas for him by telling him? I have 3 boys and my oldest was 12 before I felt the need to share the secret and frankly I wish I hadn't since my 9 yr old came to me soon after and asked point blank. I did tell him too (in 4th grade) but he's always been more cynical. I think the longer they can believe the better. There was great debate in the 5th grade class about it as I recall and theories were flying. They were trying to catch santa on video. My answer was always "if you don't believe, he won't come." That held him off for a few years. Once you do tell them you risk the chance of ruining it for their friends and younger siblings. The longer they can stay innocent the better in my opinion. Stay strong.

I do not think he is to old. My friend has a son who is 10 and he still believes. The tradition for Christmas is there is a Santa and kids believe. Your son is still a child and you are doing good to keep the spirit alive. There is nothing wrong with that. Santa is not something that I see as telling a lie. Whoever thinks that is being a scrooge. Let your son enjoy this as long as you can. In my opinion your husband shouldn't take that away from him. Let him find out thru friends or another way. He should let him be a kid as long as he can because he is going to be grown one day and then your husband is going to miss that. Then what?? Stand your ground. Your doing only what a mother would do and keep him near as long as you can. I mean don't smother him but he is only young once. I am with you one hundred percent. :) MERRY CHRISTMAS
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