B.S. asks from Cuyahoga Falls, OH on March 16, 2009
Returning to Work and Now Have Decreased Supply
First of all, I apologize for the length of my post. My son is now 8 weeks old. I returned to work at 6 weeks post partum. I am breastfeeding my son and sometimes have to supplement. I am at work for 6 1/2 hours - but am away from my son for 8 hours. In the morning before work I will either nurse my son if he wakes up before I go to work, or I have to pump and leave it for my fiance to feed him when he wakes up. I pump twice at work - which is the most I can do since my job requires me to be at my desk.
The first week I went back I was pumping 4oz the first time and then 2oz the second time for a total of 6oz. My son's ped told us to feed him about 4oz at every feeding now. I had some breastmilk stored in the freezer, so my fiance used that while I was away at work. The next week I was pumping about 3oz the first time and then 2oz the second for a total of 5oz.
Now this is the 3rd week back at work and the first time I pumped, I only got 2oz and am afraid of what I will get the second time. We have run out of frozen breastmilk and will have to use formula to supplement while I'm at work.
We had to take my son to the ER three days ago because he was throwing up - they think it was just a little bug and he seemed much better ever since. When we were there, they weighed him and he weighed the same that he had when he was 5 weeks old. It concerned me that he hadn't gained any weight. I don't believe that he lost too much weight when he was sick since he only threw up a couple times after one of his feedings.
Anyways, my question is: Is my supply dwindling down? Is he not gaining any weight because he is not getting enough to eat? I feed him about every 3 hours (give or take 30min) and he is on on-demand feeding, with the exception of night feedings - he has since dropped those and sleeps from midnight to 5am or so. The doctor didn't seem too worried about the non weight gain - but I am since he dropped from the 50th percentile to the 10th percentile on the growth chart. I was just wondering if anyone else had these experiences and if I could get some advice.
Also, he has plenty of wet diapers but hasn't had a bowel movement for 5 days and seems to be uncomfortable. Is there anything I can do to help him out? I have already tried laying him on his tummy, giving him a warm bath, massaging his belly, and doing the bicycle legs - anyone have any other suggestions??
So What Happened?™
My supply has continually diminished in the last two weeks. I still pump and nurse my son but also supplement with formula after each feeding (per his doctor's orders). He started losing a little weight so we decided that supplementing with formula wouldn't hurt - he now seems to be the happiest baby on earth. Thanks to all of you who responded.
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C.W. answers from Cincinnati on March 17, 2009
I never had much success with pumping with my youngest. I just always thought it was because I was not gettig it just right. I always got an average of 2 to 3 oz each time too. He was such a hungrey fatty guy I thought also that he just kept me drained. With the oldest I could have feed 10 kids. I had more milk than he could drink and constantly leaked. Good luck.
K.C. answers from Cleveland on March 17, 2009
B.,
Keep up the great work that you are doing. I breast fed both of my kids until they were about one year old. However, like you, I had a lot of difficulty pumping. My babies would feed very well from me, but when I tried to pump, I wouldn't get very much. I struggled through it with my first. Then, with my second I started supplementing with formula when I needed to. It wasn't that often, but it definitely helped me and him. I know if you are like me, you don't want to give formula, but it is better to give them something to get by without you! Hang in there. I know it seems overwhelming and very difficult now to deal with this, but it will all be fine!
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C.K. answers from Cleveland on March 17, 2009
I am a full time working mom as well (of three) and have breastfed all of my children. Drinking lots of water during the day should help a lot. The other thing that I have always done with all of my kids, is I both pumped and fed the baby in the morning before work (pumped on one side, let the baby nurse on the other) and I pumped once in the evening (in addition to pumping at home). This both increased my milk supply and allowed me to pump enough to provide the baby with sufficient breastmilk while I was at work.
Good luck.
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N.N. answers from Columbus on March 17, 2009
Hi B., going back to work is hard, but you can do it. I went back at 4 weeks with all 3 of mine. Keep pumping! Milk supply is based on supply and demand, the more you empty your breast, the more they will fillup. Make sure when you pump that you empty your breasts completely, then keep pumping for 2 minutes. Sometimes on a good day, you'll have a second let down and get more out. Check out the Kellymom website, and read as much of the science about supply as you can. The more information you have about the biology you have, the better you will be able to work with your body and make it work better for you and your baby. I did use fenugreek for awhile. It worked great. The directions that I found said to start with 2 capsules every two hours, for two days. If you didn't smell like pancake syrup up the dosage. I did and it took about 3 days of taking more and more, but when I started to smell like syrup, my milk supply did increase. Of course once you get it increased, you have to keep it there by nursing and pumping alot, or it will go back down again. Milk produciton is greatest in the AM so make sure you are nursing and pumping then. YOu can do it! Good luck.
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D.C. answers from Columbus on March 17, 2009
Britney,
I have breastfed both of my children and I always experience a decrease supply when I return to work. What has worked for me is to drink plenty of liquids throughout the day and I decreased my pumping to 1 time at work (normally late in the day) when I am the fullest. I can usually get 10 oz from that one pumping (5oz from each breast). Then when I get home, I feed my son on one breast only and when he goes to bed (since yours is around midnight) pump the other breast and I can usually get 4oz's at that time. This way you will have at least 3 bottles for your son the next day and this is the process I stick with. If you still can not pump enough milk, there are dietary supplements with Fenugreek in them that helps Lactation (milk production). I have never used them but a friend of mine here at work has and swears by it.
Hope this helps.
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C.W. answers from Cincinnati on March 17, 2009
I never had much success with pumping with my youngest. I just always thought it was because I was not gettig it just right. I always got an average of 2 to 3 oz each time too. He was such a hungrey fatty guy I thought also that he just kept me drained. With the oldest I could have feed 10 kids. I had more milk than he could drink and constantly leaked. Good luck.
K.Z. answers from Cleveland on March 17, 2009
Hi B.,
I think you are doing a great job!! Pat yourself and your fiance on the back!
Make sure you are eating and drinking and resting enough. Lots of water and juice for you should help with supply.
You could also contact a La Leche League leader about ways to increase your supply. You don't have to be a member of LLL to call a leader or attend meetings. The toll free number is 1 800 LALECHE, they can refer you to a leader in your area. Or visit the website (I don't know the exact web address).
When you are home, nurse, nurse nurse! you say he is on demand then--you might even want to encourage him to nurse. Nursing is the best way to build your supply.
When you pump, someone mentioned bringing a picture of the baby. Maybe one of his onesies would help too so you could smell that sweet baby smell as you pump. Being as relaxed as possible is good too.
Re weight gain--I wouldn't stress over it too much. Dr. Katherine Dettwiler (sp?) has done a lot of research on breastfeeding both here in the US and in other cultures. (Her website is good too.) I heard her give a talk where she explained how there are many factors that affect the measurement of your baby's weight that have nothing to do with the actual weight of the baby--e.g., when comparing two weigh-ins, was baby naked or clothed? if clothed both times, same type/weight of clothing? was diaper full or empty? was same scale used? when was it last calibrated? a lot can happen to a scale in a month. If, at the first weigh-in, there are a lot of factors pushing your baby's weight toward the heavy side, and at the second weighing, toward the light side, it may look like he hasn't gained any.
Re the bowel movement--the rectal temp worked for us. Or get a baby suppository, and just put it in partway, then remove it. If that doesn't help, leave it in to do its work!
I wonder if the "colic hold" would help? That's where you hold the baby along your arm, with his head in your hand, his tummy along your forearm, his right arm and leg hanging off one side of your arm, and his left arm and leg hanging off the other side of your arm. (Believe me, easier to do than to describe--lol!) Another way of stimulating the tumm. You can walk around and do other stuff with your free hand while you do this.
He might also be getting to the stage where he doesn't poop as often. But I understand if he's uncomfortable you want to help with that.
Sorry this is long. I hope some of it was helpful! Keep up the good work!
K. Z.
L.K. answers from Toledo on March 17, 2009
When my daughter was 2 months old I had to give up brest feeding. I pumped in the beginning since my daughter did not latch on. This caused me to have a decreased milk supply. I was happy to put her on brest milk since it was a big hassle.
I have heard of some working mom's only brest feeding when home and then giving formula during the day. This works out for some.
My daughter did have problems pooping when she was little. My pediatitrician (sp?) told me to give her brown sugar water. I am not sure of the dosage however the idea of 4 oz of water to a teaspoon of brown sugar may be it.
S.A. answers from Cleveland on March 18, 2009
I was lucky with my two. I was able to stay at home with them until my son was 2yrs old. My daughter I nursed for 18 months.
The key is frequency or demand on your breasts and pumping doesn't always stimulate the breasts as well as actually nursing does. You didn't mention when his last feeding is at night. You could try pumping before you go to bed or stay up a little later to pump if it's too soon after your son feeds last. You can also try getting up at least once during the night to stimulate and then pump. Frequency of demand stimulates the supply best.
Have you been manually stimulating your breasts every time before you start pumping at work? Be sure that you are completely emptying when you pump at work? But do be careful not to overpump, you'll know you have if your breast feels sore inside.
My two are now 9 and 5. I had trouble with them latching on at first because of my nipples not "proudly strutting themselves," chuckle. It got painful there for a few days at first, but we figured it out.
Anyhow, frequency of demand builds the supply and manually stimulate your breasts before you pump. I wouldn't panic over your sons lack of weight gain just yet. Most children are heavier now than when my mother nursed me and my two siblings. I will be 47 in July. My sister just turned 43 (last month) and is nursing her son(her first). He will be 1 yr old in early June and she went back to work a few months ago.
An afterthought, make sure you are eating properly and especially DRINKING ENOUGH WATER/LIQUIDS. That will also have an effect on your supply.
Yes it is a hard job, but you also get a lot of precious memories and moments that fill your heart to bursting with love and joy along with the aggravations and weariness. Good luck and blessings to you.
M.C. answers from Cleveland on March 17, 2009
I nursed both of my children and my milk supply decreased significantly when I went back to work. I just pumped as much as I could. Somedays I would get 15 ounces and then the next day I would only get 6 ounces. When I get stressed, my body really responds and in this case my milk supply would swing significantly. What we did with both of our children when our back up supply would be low was to make bottles that were half formula and half breastmilk. Then when we got a good supply built back up we would give more breastmilk. I hope this helps.
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