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Question for Mothers of Boys

Would you ever approach a couple expecting a boy and ask about whether or not they were planning on circumcising? And if so, would you try to sway them one way or the other? We are expecting our first boy (we have two girls) and my sister and her husband, who have two boys approached me about the subject. Their boys are not circumcised, neither is my BIL. They know that my husband is because we did not know if baby #2 was a boy or girl until birth. We had originally said "Yes, we plan to circumcise if Baby is a boy because Daddy is." I got a big old passionate lecture from my sister about the cruelty factor, how it is mutilation, not medically necessary etc. I was really hoping that they would not say anything this time and just be respectful about letting us decide for ourselves. But the other day, they cornered me, asked if they could email me some information and said if I had any questions to feel free to ask. Fine. I said I wasn't sure what we were going to do and that maybe we wouldn't do it and if he wanted to do it when he was older fine. The truth is, I didn't feel comfortable saying anything even remotely pro-circumcision around them. My sister sent me a link to a website (called like No Circ or something) and then was like "I think you are right to let him decide for himself. Just because you are his parents, what right do you have to decide?" Hello! I NEVER said we would let him decide, I said maybe and I wasn't comfortable talking to them about it anyway!

They are trying to act like "Oh, of course we will respect whatever you do," with an unspoken ..."whether you decide to mutilate your son or not is your choice."

Is this common for parents of boys to encounter? I am new to the whole boy thing. I am so ticked off that they felt the need to educate us because if we don't do it, they will feel like they "saved our son" and if we do they will silently judge. Hubby and I are now totally confused, not sure what to do and annoyed that for some reason we can't stop thinking about my sis and her hubby and what they will think either way. I NEVER asked about their sons, even after they were born. It never even occurred to me--because I have girls? Or because I truly couldn't care less? Do mothers of boys ask each other about this?

What can I do next?

So What Happened?™

Yup, hot button issue just like I thought! Honestly, we have not decided either way and we are doing research either way. When I told my sis originally it was so baby could be like Daddy, it was because I CANNOT tell her my reasons because she cannot have a discussion about it without getting very angry about it. She would feel like I was attacking her choice not to circumcise and insulting her son. Crazy yes? BIL and sis are also agro about breastfeeding, co-sleeping and are vegetarians and are anti-cry it out. My sis is VERY opinionated on these things but very paranoid and sensitive about being judged for her decisions. For instance, she just commented on someone's FB pic of a pig in a animal sanctuary and said "As a vegetarian, I am glad he gets to live out his days in peace!" My Uncle wrote underneath "That pig would feed a lot of hungry people." Her next status update was a rant about she is sick of people attacking her choice to be a vegetarian every time she mentions it or to make jokes and rude comments. In a very nice way, I said it was a stupid comment that he made but most likely not meant as a personal attack on her personal choice not to eat meat. She said she thought it most certainly was and accused me of trying to pick a fight with her. This is how it is with my sis. We all tiptoe around her and let her be a brat because she is totally mentally unstable (tends toward depression/anxiety) but refuses meds because she has been pregnant or breastfeeding for the past 4 plus years. Try nicely telling her that if you want to have your head ripped off, cause huge drama and make no progress.

I was just wondering if they are crazy, pushy, opinionated etc. or if this circumcision thing really is something others will bother me about. Sounds like both!

P.S. I am not against co-sleeping, breastfeeding, being vegetarian or not circumcising! We did co-sleeping and I breastfed one daughter for 2.5 years but I couldn't care less what others do!

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I am adamantly opposed to circumcision. However, I don't give my opinion unless asked, and I would never ever harass a friend or family member like that about their choice. I might be disappointed (even "silently judge") that they didn't see things the way I do, but that's my issue, not theirs. And I certainly would never bring it up again.

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first of all this baby is your child not your sister's. Do not allow yourself to feel intimidated at all. My second child was a boy and I never considered NOT having him circumcized. now that he's a tween I can't imagine that he's keep it clean - boys are notoriously funky and only bathed when forced to (until they discover girls - we're on the cusp of that now).

Frankly, if you BIL was circumcized it wouldn't even be a point of consideration for you sister - her boys it could be that she's trying to defend her own position. I am shocked that they have a cult-like zeal about circumcision. You say THEY cornered you - even your BIL? They are bizarre - ignore them. And if they push tell them flat out - "your zealousness about this is kind of freakish so I wish you'd really respect me and not talk to me about this again. You are entitled to raise your children as you think is best and so am I - whether it's organic food, breast feeding, religion or immunizations - we are entitled to our own opinion & decision so back off."

And of course, don't expect that they will - this is a religion to them. YIKES - are they like this with everything?

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I have two boys, not circumsized, and my 4 brothers gave me the hardest time about it!! They still think it's wierd that we didn't "cut" them.
I just think that no matter what you do as a parent you are going to get "heckled" by someone that doesn't agree with what you have done.
Be strong. Say, "well, it's lovely that you didn't circumsize your son, we are going to circumsize ours. End of discussion"

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I have two friends from that I've been close to since High School (15+ year friendships.) After reading up and weighing the pros/cons and social aspect of circumcising, I decided NOT to. Well, I was the first to have kids. Both of my friends have since had boys, and I did ask what they planned to do... I did tell them what I had found when I read up on it.

So, would I say something to a stranger? No way. But someone I consider family or IS family -- sure. My approach isn't as aggressive as your sister though. I didn't go back to the topic repeatedly, just told her my reasoning. I pointed out that the "looking like Daddy" concern has been proven that little boys are MUCH more likely to notice Daddy has hair and they don't and they will ask questions about that. Being different from Daddy isn't really a concern, it's a normal state. Etc. So, I just discussed it... and had either of them said they didn't appreciate my opinion or feedback - I would have shut it. At the time they were trying to decide, so the comments were appropriate.

It also occurs to me... even before they had kids I weighed in their opinions when I was trying to decide what was best. These two women are my closest friends. I welcomed their feedback. So I think that matters - we have that kind of relationship. We share very intimate details... we have that kind of closeness.

I also believe breastfeeding is the way to go but one of my friends gave her kids formula. I was her shoulder when nurses/doctors made her feel "bad" for not trying to breastfeed. That's what friends and family do.. it's easy to support someone when you agree with their choices, it's love when you can support them even when you don't.

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No, their behavior is not normal, and these kinds of comments are not common. It is rude and presumptuous. Whether or not you choose to circumcise him is your own business, and I'm sure you and your husband have put serious thought into the decision. Your sister and her spouse have crossed the line from offering advice to bullying. In your place I'd be very tempted to ask my sister when penises outside her immediate family became her personal problem. (But then, you are probably more tactful than I am...)

I had similar headaches with my mother throughout my pregnancies and the baby years of both my kids. I finally had to say to her that she had raised her own family, and needed to give me the respect and room I needed to raise mine as I saw fit. It was not an easy conversation to have, but I reached a point where I was tired of being lectured and second-guessed and badgered on every decision from cirumcision to drugs during childbirth to when to introduce solid foods to what kind of diapers to use to how long I chose to breastfeed.

I hope you will set boundaries with your sister now, rather than putting up with the interference, as I did for way too long. In the long run, setting boundaries now may save your relationship with her.

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Just ignore her, already, and do whatever you and your husband want.

Just reading about her made me want to slap her, not because of her beliefs but because she is so obnoxious about them. Note to self, state beliefs but respect others' beliefs as well.

Your uncle, btw, was NOT being rude on facebook. A pig would feed a lot of people. Stop apologizing to your SIL on behalf of people that don't agree with her. They are entitled to their opinions and shouldn't have to walk on eggshells around her. Let me guess, she is the PC police.

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When we were having our son I was approached by a couple of people about this and I knew that my sister had chosem not to circumcise her sons. Because of this I decided to do some research on it.
There is a whole host of stuff out there both pro and con. Most of the stuff against it is the same things your sister has already said to you -- mutilation, cruelty, not medically necessary. Those are all legitimate concerns. The pro circumcision side says it IS medically helpful (reduction in transmission of STDs, won't be required later in life due to infections, some evidence for reduction in Urinary tract infections), and not cruel (they do use a numbing agent), and you'll have to decide for yourself if it is mutilation. One of the most disturbing arguments I saw from the people who are against it was equating male circumcision with female circumcision. This is an inflamatory argument since they aren't even close -- female circumcision removes the ability for the woman to feel sexual stimulation, male circumcision is said to heighten the sensitivity.
What finally made the choice for me was a conversation with my grandfather. He was not circumcised at birth, but due to infection in the Army (WW2) had to be circumcised then. He quite frankly said that he wished it had been done long before he had a memory of the pain that was involved in it.
No matter what you do in this you will probably feel judged by your sister. If you try to say it is a private matter/decision, she just might contrive a way to change diapers to find out what you decided to do. When I was deciding about this I did ask a few people, but more out of curiosity to see what they had to say or if they had even thought about it. When I finally worked up then nerve to ask my sister (who, incidentally is a nurse) she said to do it -- it's just easier and you don't have to teach your boys anything. After all that worry and research and tension of it, it turned out to be a moot point -- DH was adamant that our son be circumcised, and since I was already leaning that way it wasn't an argument worth having.
No matter what you decide, remember that it is YOUR decision as parents together. You are the parents of this child, not your sister or your BIL. I'm sure they will probably have much more to say to you about raising boys as you go along. Listen to the advice they give you, take the good, chuck the bad and refuse to feel judged by them. Good luck to you! Raising a boy (and now a girl) have been the best adventures of my life!!

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well, i'm older than most of you, but i wish someone WOULD have given me more info when i had my babies. it was just assumed they'd be circumcised, almost all of the penises i had met up to that point were circumcised (yes, i'm quite aware of what that says about me) and it never really occurred to me to do anything else.
having educated myself more at this point in life, that's one of the few things i'd have changed. so i do understand your sister's desire to make sure you have full access to the data.
but they do sound awfully pushy. i think you need a courteous way to tell her 'nunya'. something along the lines of 'thanks for the information. we are taking that and other considerations under advisement, and assure you we will make the best decision for OUR family based on all of it.' and if she pushes, push back. 'thank you. we have all the information we need from you.' firm. polite. door slammed shut.
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I suggest you find a way to calm down. What does it matter what your sister says? She is concerned. It doesn't sound like she's doing this to be mean or disrespectful. She is a bit over zealous in a way similar to some religious people. She sounds sure that she was right to not circumcise her boys. I suggest that the opposite may be true. Perhaps she's still convincing herself, on some level.

You not only have the right but also the obligation to do what you believe is the right thing to do. I understand your confusion. There is a lot of conflicting information on the subject. My daughter and her husband asked people for their opinion and experience re: circumcision. They decided to circumcise because he was circumcised. They felt it was emotionally best for the son to be like the father since in their opinion most info for and against seemed about even.

Have you told your sister to back off? If not, I suggest that you will feel better if you take a stand and stop the conversations. I'd tell her that you would like to read what she has but from now on you do not want any further conversations about it. Thank her for the info. Remind her that it is yours and your husband's decision and that when it comes down to doing it, circumcision is a personal choice. I would be honest and tell her that you are getting irritated with the way she's insisting she knows what's best.

Relationships work best when people are able to be honest with each other. You will feel better when you're able to stand up for yourself. It sounds like now you're allowing her to push you around and that causes you to not feel good about her or yourself. Put the relationship back on an equal basis. Your opinion is just as important as hers.

Has she always been the one to put you down, to be in charge, etc? If so it is difficult for you to assert yourself. I suggest that now is a good time to take back your power.

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