D.G. asks from Los Angeles, CA on October 14, 2009
Pregnant & Swine Flu Shot
If your pregnant, has any of your doctors recommended or not recommened getting the swine flu shot? I am 32 weeks pregnant and trying to get some clarity. It seems either people are for it or against it and I am just trying to get some insight of what other doctors are saying.
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A.C. answers from Los Angeles on October 15, 2009
Dr Oz took the vaccine on air but said in an interview that he was not having his children vaccinated. I would not do it. Sambucol is very effective in combating flu. It is from elderberry extract. Here's what one mother had to say on a blog about it.
http://www.mothering.com/discussions/showthread.php?p=142...
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N.V. answers from Las Vegas on October 18, 2009
A friend of mine posted this on Facebook, and I found the link helpful:
"This is the patient insert for the H1N1 vaccine. Pay particular attention to section 8, dealing with children and pregnant women. If safety and effectiveness in these two populations hasn't been established, why are they recommending these people get it? It's also a pregnancy category C..."
http://www.fda.gov/downloads/BiologicsBloodVaccines/Vacci...
C.F. answers from Flagstaff on October 17, 2009
ACK! Nooooo!!
The swine flu shot is NOT recommended for pregnancy!!! It has NOT been thoroughly tested. It has been proven to not even be *safe* by infectious disease doctors. Many are recommending against it across the board.
I would strongly, strongly recommend against getting it. The swine flu is no more serious than the regular flu. And the regular flu shots are made from LAST YEAR'S flu strain, which doesn't protect against *this* year's flu strain. It's one of the most pointless and potentially harmful vaccines on the market.
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J.D. answers from Los Angeles on October 15, 2009
Whatever you do do not let the doctor force you into anything until YOU do the research. I personally would not touch it with a 20 ft pole. Here is the package insert and btw those with asthma that get the flu shot are more than double likely to end up in the hospital that season. I've posted just some of the revelent information from the insert here for you. NOTE that it is not to be given to children under four (this includes your baby) and to pregnant women unless clearly needed (what does this mean!?!) and NO STUDIES have been done. There are better ways to help you through this flu season.
http://www.fda.gov/downloads/BiologicsBloodVaccines/Vacci...
USE IN SPECIFIC POPULATIONS
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Safety and effectiveness of Influenza A (H1N1) 2009 Monovalent Vaccine have not been established in pregnant women, nursing mothers or children less than 4 years of age. (8.1, 8.3, 8.4)
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Antibody responses to the trivalent
DOSAGE FORMS AND STRENGTHS
Influenza A (H1N1) 2009 Monovalent Vaccine, a sterile suspension for intramuscular injection, is supplied in two presentations:
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Prefilled single dose syringe, 0.5-mL. Thimerosal, a mercury derivative used during manufacture, is removed by subsequent purification steps to a trace amount (≤ 1 mcg mercury per 0.5-mL dose) (3, 11)
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Multidose vial, 5-mL. Contains thimerosal, a mercury derivative (25 mcg mercury per 0.5-mL dose). Thimerosal is added as preservative. (3,11)
8.1 Pregnancy
Pregnancy Category C: Animal reproduction studies have not been conducted with Influenza A (H1N1) 2009 Monovalent Vaccine or FLUVIRIN. It is also not known whether Influenza A (H1N1) 2009 Monovalent Vaccine or FLUVIRIN can cause fetal harm when administered to a pregnant woman or can affect reproduction capacity. Influenza A (H1N1) 2009 Monovalent Vaccine should be given to a pregnant woman only if clearly needed.
8.3 Nursing Mothers
It is not known whether FLUVIRIN or Influenza A (H1N1) 2009 Monovalent Vaccine is excreted in human milk. Because many drugs are excreted in human milk, caution should be exercised when Influenza A (H1N1) 2009 Monovalent Vaccine is administered to a nursing woman.
8.4
Pediatric Use
Safety and effectiveness in pediatric subjects below the age of 4 years have not been established. [see ADVERSE REACTIONS (6) and CLINICAL STUDIES (14)]CONTRAINDICATIONS
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History of systemic hypersensitivity reactions to egg proteins, or any other component of Influenza A (H1N1) 2009 Monovalent Vaccine, or life-threatening reactions to previous influenza vaccinations. (4, 11)
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B.H. answers from Los Angeles on October 15, 2009
PLEASE DO NOT GET THE SHOT unless you are 100% sure that you and your baby will be safe.
Please do the research. Doctors know sickness ONLY...they rarely treat health. When the give you the shot, they know you are likley to get side effects, that they feel confident to treat. So what if you didn't get the shot? What if you did get the flu (which by the way, more people die from the regular flu than any other every year...) So what if you did get it...then if need be, you can be treated.
I know that the best prevention is nutrition and cleanliness. Focus on both and you and your family will be safe.
http://search.mercola.com/results.aspx?k=h1n1%20shot
Know they are injecting you with a virus so you don't get the virus...sounds kind of silly to me.
Do some research on vaccines, please, educate not medicate.
http://www.naturalnews.com/GoogleSearchResults.html?q=flu...
What is really in those needles?
http://www.organicconsumers.org/articles/article_3400.cfm
Do the research. Make an informed decision. I recommend to my clients NOT to vaccinate or get flu shots. Period.
**Did you here...someone who gets the flushot is 50% more likely to attract the H1N1 virus...yet they still say get it. Who are "they" and how can "they" not see the numbers?
B.
Family Success Coach
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R.G. answers from Los Angeles on October 15, 2009
D., I would strongly recommend that you not take the vaccine. ALL doctors (unless they specialize in natural medicines) will recommend that you get it but that doesn't mean its the best thing for you or your baby. The medical profession is heavily tied to pharmaceutical companies so they cannot discourage vaccines. However, do your research (BOTH sides - for and against), pray about it and make an informed decision. Both my husband and I are educated professionals and have made the decision not to vaccinate our children. It's an extreme misperception to believe that people who've made the same decision as we have are uninformed or plain stupid. Beleive me, the accusations come but we're very confident in our decision. I did not have any flu shots while pregnant either. We have 2 beautiful, strong, healthy boys. Diet and nutrition are tantamount to health. God bless you and your family!
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J.S. answers from San Diego on October 15, 2009
From what I've been reading and what my OB and friends who are doctors have told me is that the H1N1 vaccine is made exactly the same way the regular flu vaccine is made. The only difference being the inactivated virus component, so there is very little reason to believe that it will be a problem. I believe that there is a non-therimisol version just like there is with the regular flu shot. I have gotten the regular flu shot both times I've been pregnant (non-T version) and when I have not been pregnant as well. There is a very real danger of serious complications from the flu, including death, particularly if you are pregnant. Millions of pregnant women over the years have received flu shots and it is deemed to be safe. I know it's scary that this one is "new" but I am forcing myself to look at it logically and make a logical decision based on reliable information from reputable sources (NOT Dr. Mercola or a lot of those natural sites that use scare tactics - my mom sends them to me). It is hard not to make this decision based on emotion - we all want what is best for our unborn children and would be devastated if anything we did caused any problems. That said, prior to my research I was in the category of probably not going to get the H1N1 but would get the flu vaccine. Now I'm in the category of 90% sure I will get the H1N1 vaccine when it comes out in November. Also, the added bonus is that my unborn baby, who will be born during flu season but will be too young to vaccinate and will be still developing her own immune system, will have taken on some of the antibodies from my flu shot.
My mother-in-law just died from a simple virus b/c she had a compromised immune system. Pregnant women also have a compromised immune system and this is particularly true in the last trimester. This is a very real danger.
Good luck with your decision. Try not to make it out of fear, but out of fact - I know it's hard.
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A.C. answers from Los Angeles on October 15, 2009
Dr Oz took the vaccine on air but said in an interview that he was not having his children vaccinated. I would not do it. Sambucol is very effective in combating flu. It is from elderberry extract. Here's what one mother had to say on a blog about it.
http://www.mothering.com/discussions/showthread.php?p=142...
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J.W. answers from Los Angeles on October 15, 2009
I would tell my doc to take a flying leap! : ) I would not get one preggo or not. Never had a flu shot and I never get the flu, people I know who get them religiously get the flu religiously. I don't think that is by chance. The other reason if that God only knows what it could do to your unborn baby. If you get the flu while preggo you will survive. Wash your hands frequently with soapy water and you will be fine. Good luck and congrats in advance. Your so brave for having another one right now. LOL My dd is 22 months and I am still amazed at anyone who goes on to have more than one. : )
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J.L. answers from Los Angeles on October 15, 2009
Hi D.. Congrats on your little baby. I have been reading the responses here and I don't beleive that most of them women who have responded really KNOW what to do. They seem to have a preconceived theory and don't want to change their opinion. I do not know a lot of the research on it but I do know that a friend of mine died 2 weeks ago from swine flu. The went into a coma 2 hours after delivering her baby girl (now 8 weeks) and stayed that way for 6 weeks until she passed. She DID NOT have the vaccine. (I only tell you this b/c someone said only people given the vaccine have died). There also have been documentation that many pregnant women have died. I think that you should take the information from your responses and make a list of questions you have and discuss with your doc. Only you and your doc know all of your medical concerns and whether you should get the vaccine. Some women are advising not getting it b/c its a "new" vaccine. The regular flu vaccine is a "new" vaccine every year based on the new strain of the virus and how it may have mutated. So what does that prove? Nothing. Hopefully you can use these responses to make the best decision. from what I have heard, doctors are absolutely advising preggos to get the vaccine. There are a few articles on WEB MD that talk about this. (I read them yesterday, sorry I didn't have time to look for them) Good LUCK!
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D.S. answers from Los Angeles on October 15, 2009
My OB (and the other 3 docs in her practice) is recommending the shot for her patients. She is EXTREMELY conservative and would not recommend something she did not believe was safe. I am 13 weeks pregnant and can't wait to get the darn shot. From all that I have read about this vaccine (and that's every article I can find), I believe it is safe and the pros outweigh the cons in this circumstance. It is the same vaccine as the regular flu shot except the viral strain is different--there have been no major changes to the vaccine formula. There have been no reported negative effects to mothers or fetuses from the regular flu shot so why should we assume this vaccine is any different. Don't forget that the media thrives on worrying the general public--if it's not scary, then it's not news. This is a legitimate, worrisome issue but the facts are that more people still die from the regular seasonal flu than from the swine flu. The swine flu, however, is particularly agressive in pregnant women and that's what makes it scary, and tips the scales for me in favor of getting the vaccine.
I strongly believe that we must trust our medical providers and trust that they would not steer us wrong and give us or our unborn babies something that would harm us. I'd rather take the risk on this shot then end up extremely sick and possibly dead. All we can do is listen to our medical providers, try to make responsible decisions, and then leave the rest up to God.
Good luck in making your decision!
D.
PS: I am giving the shot to my 2-year old son, too.
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