C.M. asks from York, PA on May 17, 2008
Not Ready for Teenage Behavior at Age 7
My daughter just turned 7 in March. She has a little boyfriend in her class whom she claims to love and says she will marry one day. It was all very cute and adorable. The little boy is a little gentleman. He holds the door for her and puts her legos away without being asked. Yesterday I agreed to have their first play date here. While they were here they were trying everything they could do to be alone together. I did see that that did not happen. While watching a movie, they were sitting together on a bean bag, when my daughter reached her little arm around his chest and sat there snuggeling. I did not say anything at the time, but after her little guy left, I had a little talk about how, I felt, her behavior was a little innapropriate for a 7 year old and that was adult behaviors. Right as the little boy was leaving they ducked under the table for a kiss! When I asked what was going on, they both came up giggeling and announced they were kissing. Later I was talking with my daughter and she told me that they kissed one other time at school. The thing that bothers me the most, is when I was talking to her about her relationship with this little boy, she kept telling me about this other little girl in her class Beyonce. I kind of got the impression that she was doing some of these things because of this little girl Beyonce. I am just at a loss at how to handle this situation. I was totally not prepared for this at age 7. Any other moms out there who have any similiar experiences they would like to share, I would like to hear them. Any advice on how some other moms would have handled things. She is my oldest. She is still a little girl. She wants to dress like a Big girl. She likes to wear skimpy clothing and high heels and make up. I only let her do this with in the four walls of our house. She is never allowed to go out dressed this way or wearing make up. She still goes to bed with a blanket after saying her prayers, and even wet her pants in school one day this year. SO she is still very much a little girl. I have never delt with this before. SO any moms who have been there and done that, I would like to know how you handled it.
So What Happened?™
I think I wasn't clear in my description of my situation. I got some responses where I think I was accused of allowing my daughter to wear mini skirts and high heels. She likes to play dress up and knows not to wear these items in real life and really has never asked me to wear these items out. After our conversation of appropriate behavior, the issue has been resolved. At our family reunion this year her cousin kissed her goodbye and she immediately ran over and reported to me she was kissed by this boy. I then had to explain that he was family and that was ok, but she did not have to kiss anyone if it made her uncomfortable. Thank you all for your stories. And to answer some questions. I would like to say the following. Yes there really is a girl name Beyonce in her class. She does not watch any thing that is not G rated on TV so she has no idea that there is a singer Beyonce. She does not play on the internet at all. I am very involved in her school, I go in and volunteer in her classroom once a week and attend all special events with her and even chaperoned every field trip their classroom took last year. I think I was expecting everyone to know that my daughter and I have a close relationship and I did not portray that correctly in my request. I think she was thinking I am going to marry him one day; mommy and daddy kiss, they are married, so it is ok to kiss him. Some of her friend's parents are divorced and she is always talking about how lucky she is to live with both her mommy and daddy and that they love eachother very much. I think she was trying to mimmic our behavior a little too. After our conversation on appropriate behavior I think she was relieved, and now she tells me more about her feelings with her friends. I just hopes she remains this open in upcomming years. Thank you all for your input. Especially to those whom have let me know I am not alone.
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D.D. answers from Philadelphia on May 18, 2008
Dear C.
Wow! I feel for you because i too have a son and daughter that age and had to also face a similar problem earlier this year. My son came home and told me he was in love and that this girl had taken to kissing him on the lips at school. I explained that this is not appropriate for his age and that only adults do that kind of thing. When it continued i spoke to his teacher and made it clear that i did not want this kind of thing happening. She then addressed the whole class and explained that there is nothing wrong with kissing if you are and adult and that she did not want to see anyone doing that sort of thing. It has stopped. Thank God. I just wanted to say that i believe if there is a certain behaviour that we don't like then it should always be out. In other words if you don't want your daughter to wear certain clothes and make-up then from here on it is out all of the time. You wouldn't let her eat with her feet on the table at home and then expect her not to do that in other peoples homes. So don't allow her to do things at home that you don't want her doing out of the home. For example my husband and i really don't like the idea of tatoos so our children are not even allowed to put on the false ones. They may as an adult decide to do it anyway but i hope that by making it a no go now it will always be a no go. We need to practice what we preach. I don't allow my children to whatch things that may show behaviour i don't approve of and that includes a lot of these so called teen sitcomes like 'hanna montana' and 'high school musical' because they portray children like they are adults. So keep talking with your daughter and perhaps if you are really unhappy about her friendship with this boy you need to make an excuse so that they don't have any more playdates. Good luck!!
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C.C. answers from Philadelphia on May 18, 2008
I totally feel for you. Although you have a girl acting like a teen and I have a boy acting like a teen. It is so hard as a parent to comprehend how that sleeping angel snuggled up with his elmo can act so defiant, rude and generally "teen-ager-y" during the day. I have a theory that parents of these types of children have it a bit luckier that the parents of the "late bloomer" type kid.
I think that we are going through a sort of "first phase" of puberty. It doesn't start with the body in these kids but the brain. So being first born kids with younger siblings, my guys are 6 and 2 also, they tend to have a bit more responsibility so therefore they think they are more grown up than they really are. They feel like, "My parents can count on me to be reponsible so I should be able to do some grown-up things too" Then they pick the one grown- up thing they want in their life. For your little girl it sounds like boyfriend, for my little guy it is cursing, heavy rock music (a la rage against the machine), skateboarding and grown up tv shows. When my guy has friends over he likes to try to impress them with his mp3 player that has bad word songs on it. I have to tell him that if he does that his friends will go right home. I am not going to be the one to introduce the neighborhood kids to Rage or Rob Zombie.
As I said I think we are lucky to be going through this now. We still have the power to say "You will not do that , You will do ..." and they have to listen because they don't know yet that they have a choice. Having this behaviour happen now also gives us the opportunity to figure out what approach to take when the time comes to deal with the real teenager stuff. But also they may grow out of all that stuff by then and decide it is too "baby-ish" to act that way to their parents.
I hope that is what happens.
I guess my best advice as a mom going through it too is to let it ride, keep an eye on her and try to keep the behaviour at a minimum and remember that this will pass and some other new and crazy thing will come out of this wonderful little person soon enough.
good luck
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J.H. answers from Philadelphia on May 18, 2008
I would also get your husband involved. If she's looking for male attention, make sure your husband gives her positive reinforcement. I know from personal experience how girls look for male attention elsewhere when Daddy isn't giving it. While I do think you should talk to her about how to be a lady. Let your husband show her how a gentleman should treat a lady. Have him take her out on a Daddy-Daughter date and he can talk to her too. Make sure you're on the same page though.
Just my 2 cents!
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K.C. answers from State College on May 18, 2008
You have a great opportunity to teach her while she is young enough to still pay attention to you!
We once passed a young woman really wobbling in stillettos and belly shirt. I talked to my daughter right there about how some people don't know that what they see on TV doesn't work well in real life. How she must be cold and how it didn't look very easy to walk any distance.
With the kissing thing, we had a similar incident and talked about how much I liked Daddy but that I didn't go kissing Daddy right away I got to know him and we talked a lot to make sure he was as nice as I thought he was. Then I made sure when "the boyfriend" came over they had playdoh, water balloons, fingerpaints, etc. It was more work but it taught her. I talked about how there are lots of people that she will always see doing things different than us and it isn't wrong for them but it isn't what we want to do.
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B.K. answers from Pittsburgh on May 18, 2008
HI C.. I have three girls (their birthdays are in March too!) and two of them went through similar "loves" when they were about 7. I myself had a "boyfriend" when I was in Kindergarden and 1st grade. Your best bet is to not over-react and keeping it as simple as possiable. Tell her simple clear-cut rules, Hugs are okay, but NO kissing or sunggling boys (except for Daddy and Grandpa) until your 16 yrs old. No make-up until your 13. If she says "My frind Suzzyjo does....." Tell her that's between Suzzyjo and her Mommy and she is your daughter and you expect her to follow YOUR rules. Remember to keep it simple...the simpler the better!
As far as clothes go, it is really tough to keep them on the right track with clothes. With all the skimpy "fashions" out there you really have to watch for age approaite stuff. My youngest is a really "fashion" bug too. She loves to wear skirts, dresses, high heels, hose, the works and always has, more than once I have really had to put my foot down. I even took away the "dress-up" stuff for a while.
I made "first make-up" a big deal for my girls. I started with my oldest on her 13th birthday. We went down to the waterfront and went through all the cool little shops looking for all the right stuff for her (just the basic eye make-up, blush and lip gloss). Then we stop for a snack or dinner, just the two of us. A real "girls night out" for the new teen & Mom. I've done this with both my older girls and it has been really fun & gave them something special to look forward to at that all important "I'm a teen now" birthday. I can't wait to do the same with my youngest.
Good luck and best wishes.
E.S. answers from Pittsburgh on May 18, 2008
While I was reading your problem, I was thinking of my own. I have an almost 8 yo son who is always telling me that he's going to marry our friends' daughter, Lauren. We only see these friends about once a year when we go on vacation together, and that's only been for the past 3 years. We're leaving soon for vacation and have started talking to him about appropriate behavior. We told him that he's not allowed to snuggle with just Lauren on the couch anymore (she has 2 little sisters, he has a little sister and brother), but if everyone is on the couch it's ok. We've also had to tell him no smooching. It's cute, it's innocent, but as parents we've got to start teaching them appropriate ways to show affection early on. It sounds like you're on the right track (hopefully we are, too). I think freaking out about it will only lead to more "inappropriate" behavior, so let's try to keep it calm. One more thing, I remember being sent to the corner in kindergarten for kissing boys, so this isn't a new thing for our kids. Good luck.
A.J. answers from Williamsport on May 18, 2008
Wow, this is really tough. I admire how you're not shutting her out by being too harsh, because you want to know the truth about what's going on, but I think now that you do, you need to tighten up. I remember experimenting with kissing etc at this age, but was WELL AWARE that it was NOT ALLOWED so we would sneak and hardly ever had the opportunity and it passed pretty quickly before "real love" age later on. I would have never been allowed to have a boyfriend over in a billion years when I was 7. I don't think you should be hosting her and her boyfriend or letting them cuddle. Tell her they can be friends, but no kissing, snuggling or being boyfriend/girlfriend until 16-whatever age you make up, this should pass on it's own in the meantime or you're in trouble! Tell her your the mom and that's the rules and you don't care about Beyonce. Meanwhile keep their "playing together" more limited and supervised, and let her teacher know they aren't allowed to do that if she wouldn't mind keeping an eye out. It's not the end of the world if they sneak in a few cuddles, but they shouldn't think it's allowed, and they shouldn't be alone long enough for anything much to happen. As for the skimpy dressing-call me crazy-I wouldn't even allow it at home, although HOORAY for you not letting her out like that. Definitely don't encourage it or say she looks nice. DEFINITELY have your husband say,"I DO NOT think that looks nice. I would never let my husband sit idly by while my daughter dressed that way, because then she would really think it was acceptable. Start sending the message that girls look a lot prettier and smarter in classy clothes. Try to limit her access to trashy role models on TV etc. hello Hanna Montana. Not easy these days-I know. As she gets older, let her know you love her and trust her and she's beautiful, but the world is full of bad people who don't need to see her bare body. It blows my mind when parents allow their daughters to give pedophiles an eyeful just because their daughters who don't know better are pressuring them. Who's in CHARGE HERE?! Peer pressure is for kids, not for moms. As a fashion designer for 20 years, there has never been a season where ONLY skanky clothes are in style for young girls. There are always alternatives. I know you aren't on that path to Lolitaville. Just a caution to nip the steps towards that behavior in the bud, and let her know the rules early. You can worry about her sneaking mini skirts into her bag and changing at school later. At least if you don't allow it and don't buy it, and you've told her why in clear honest adult terms, you've done all you can do. Society sends the message, "Sexiest and Prettiest is best" to girls who haven't had time to discover their other values and talents yet. You have to be the boss. Good Luck and keep up the good work keeping tabs on her!
P.M. answers from Harrisburg on May 19, 2008
You are the adult. You must tell her that her behavior is totally inappropriate for someone her age. We tell our kids (8 and 11) it doesn't matter what the other kids do...they are still responsible to do the RIGHT thing - and she will learn the right thing from YOU - not from the other kids.
I would not permit a 7 year old to wear skimpy clothes. You're just asking for trouble with that one. I would also speak to the boy's parents. His behavior is out of line as well.
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