A.F. asks from Medina, WA on January 23, 2009
Not Losing Any Weight After 3Rd Pregnancy
I had my last child 5 months ago. I tend to gain a ton of weight with each pregnancy (45+ lbs) no matter what I eat or how often I exercise. After child #1, I lost everything, after #2 I was on the way to losing it all, but then I had a suprise with #3. Now here we are: I'm exercising 6 days a week (sometimes twice daily), doing interval training, eating around 1200 cal/day and I'm still not losing any weight. I have lost NONE. And I'm not being sarcastic here; the scale hasn't budged. I went to my MD; thyroid is fine. I went to a natralpath, she thought my adrenal gland may be off and I've been on some herbs to 'correct' my cortisol levels. Has anyone else experineced this type of frustration? I had to give up breastfeeding about a month ago since I wasn't producing enough milk for the baby. Any direction would be appreciated. I should also let you know that I am vegan, don't eat any junk food, and barely any sugar. All organic foods. Yes, I am a food snob. I also don't drink or do any drugs (other than the medicinal herbs) and when I say I work out, I work out with a trainer for a solid hour 3x/week, run 5x week and try to get to bikram yoga when I have the time. Thanks so much for your help.
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L.A. answers from Seattle on January 24, 2009
There is a saying 9 months on - then 9 months off - so just know that - it took you 9 months to put on the weight - so it should take you 9 months to put it off - and if you never lost the weight with baby 2 it might take a wee bit longer.
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M.H. answers from Seattle on January 24, 2009
I agree with the other Mamas who say you may be overdoing it/under eating. Another thought though, are you taking some kind of birth control? Some types make it nearly impossible to lose weight. Whatever it is, try not to stress over it you really aren't that far postpartum.
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M.G. answers from Seattle on January 23, 2009
I have to say that what you do sounds like you are putting your body under starvation stress and this is why you hold on to your pounds like crazy.
6 days of exercise - and 1200 cal at 4 months pp, sorry but no wonder you did not produce enough milk...
Your body is thinking there is some natural catastrophe going on and is trying to save up as best as possible.
I would speak to a nutritionist (and I am sure you can find someone who is supportive of veganism) and get on a balanced diet with a moderate excercise regimen. You are not doing your body a favor by wanting to loose so much weight too fast.
You could also consider relactating, as breastfeeding has been proven not only to be beneficial to your baby's health, but to also considerably aid in loosing the baby weight - even if you only partially breastfeed and supplement with formula.
Moderation is the key to sustained weightloss! And I do speak from experience, having at one point lost 50 lbs over the course of a year and not gained it back!
Good luck!
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Z.A. answers from Seattle on January 24, 2009
Hmmm...hate to sound harsh here...but you sound like me.
The problem with that would be Female Athlete Triad.
From someone who's been there, either slow waaaaaay down, or start eating a lot more. Your metabolism had dug it's heels in because your body is trying to save itself.
In my peak physical condition, I was doing strenuous physical activity 9-11 hours a day 7 days a week. I was consuming between 8,000 & 12,000 calories per day. I had a six pack, legs to die for, and I STRUGGLED to keep my bodyfat above 10%.
Sometime later: I was hiking an average of 20 mi p/day five days a week, riding, swimming, dancing, etc. the rest of the time. So, strenuous physical activity aproximately 15-16 hours per day 7 days a week. I consumed between 400 & 600 calories. My bodyfat hovered in the 30%'s, I was over 30lbs lighter, but wore clothes 4 sizes bigger. Ummm....NOTHING I could do would drop any weight. In fact, right before I woke up and realized I was being an idiot, I was starting to swell. Edema. Of course, I didn't wake up until I had a heart attack at 21 because my body was eating itself it was so starved for proteins.
Cortisols are one of your bodies natural reaction to stress. Think of adrenalin as short term, cortisol as long term, although like everything in physiology it's sooooo much more complicated. Unfortunately, it only makes the picture more bleak. You're putting your body under enormous stress and it's reacting accordingly.
My first suggestion would be this: GET SOME GLUCOSE. It's the only fuel your brain runs off of. Your body converts any "-ose" into glucose for your brain. So fructose (from fruit), galactose, lactose, succrose, I don't care what...something that's concentrated in natural sugars. Then UP UP UP your proteins quick, now. Protect your heart. Then see a nutritionist. No nutritionist I've ever spoken to would be anything but supportive & helpful with veganism. If you wait until you're in medical crisis, you will have no choice what is fed to you. So go pour some olive oil over some cannellini beans and serve it up over thick crusty slices of baguette. Not whole wheat. Veg Miso soup. A big glass of orange juice.
It's hard. To me, 1200 cal and a few hours of exercise a day sounds soooooo reasonable...except that I know it isn't. My body just isn't healthy, strengthening, & capable of healing. Weight loss? No siree. I have to convince my body food is abundant before I lose a pound. If you haven't been doing this for too long you probably haven't totally KILLED your metabolism yet. For me, it took about two years of eating 5-10 times a day to get my body convinced that I wasn't starving after about a year of completely mistreating myself. Still today, if I get stressed and forget to eat until dinner a few days in a row I'm guaranteed to go up a pants size.
So take care of yourself. Don't let it get to extremes. Or you could be like me; who gained over a hundred pounds when I started eating (suuuuuper healthy) again.
Good Luck
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K.D. answers from Portland on January 24, 2009
I have two bits of advice:
1- Be patient, for goodness sake your baby is only 5 months old! If he/she were 2 and you still hadn't lost the weight then get concerned, but 5 months!!!???!!!
2- Stop focusing on the weight. As a matter of fact throw out the scale. Focus instead on being healthy, which it sounds to me like you are... VERY. All this focus on weight is not good for you and a terrible role model for your 4 year old.
I must say, I know it is hard to decifer someone's state in a few paragraphs in an email, but your intesity sent up red flags for me. I hope I am wrong. Good luck and enjoy those beautiful babies!
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T.R. answers from Bellingham on January 24, 2009
Hi A.,
I too am a total food snob. I try not to let anything with chemicals or pesticides etc into my house let alone onto our table. But I suspect that you are eating a lot of carbohydrates if you are a vegan. The problem with not eating any animal products is it is difficult to get all of the protein your body needs, so you have to consume a lot of grains, legumes, etc all of which are very high in carbohydrates and even though you don't consume much sugar, your body is consuming a lot of it. Which creates insulin. Insulin is a nasty but very necessary hormone in our bodies. However insulin does several things. It tells your body to store it's fat, instead of burning it. It also tells your body to make more fat and store it. And to top it off, it makes your body crave more carbohydrates. There is also a sister hormone to insulin which many think is even a worse culprit that is triggered when you have to much sugar in your system called leptin. Leptin affects your appetite. Do you eat very many complex fats? Nuts, fish, avocados, coconut oil, olive oil are all very good fats to be consuming and most of us don't get enough of them. I am sure you have heard of omega 3's. So getting more of those would be a good place to start. Just a note, when you cook, the only oil that doesn't turn into a trans fat is coconut oil. If you are cooking with olive oil, you are consuming trans fat. Coconut oil is the only one stable enough to withstand heat. Olive oil is great for salad dressings though and anything that doesn't get cooked.
If veganism is a philosophical choice for you, it is a tough road to hoe for you to get enough protein. Which is probably why your milk dried up. Your body had to save it for you. I know consuming fats seems like the opposite of what you think you should do, but think about this. If the standard of low fat high grain diet is right, than why are Americans getting fatter and fatter? The truth is that is just not what most of us need. Most of us need a lot more protein and we only need the carbohydrates found in vegetables. But as a vegan, it is extremely difficult to find protein sources without triggering massive amounts of insulin. So I don't have many suggestions for you other than watch out for soy products. Soybeans are the biggest genetically modified crop, then comes corn. And unless your soy has gone through the fermentation process, it really isn't that good for you. It is high in Estrogen as well, which is great if you are post menopausal, but not great for the rest of us. So I hope something I have shared with you has helped in some way. Your body certainly does seem to be in conservation mode. But be aware that many of the vegetables we eat, are very high in simple starch which turns very quickly to sugar, causing insulin spikes, which tells our fat cells to store more fat. Your exercise level helps with that and burns off sugar and insulin however, so if it wasn't for that, you would probably be twice your size. So good luck and good health to you.
I remembered after I had sent this that I gave you a great protein source, and didn't even realize it. Nuts! You should be eating lots and lots of them. They are great in salads, as a snack, as a hunger stayer, and it sounds like you really need to eat a lot of them. Have a handful with every meal, snack on them, chop them into recipes, just eat lots and lots of them, they are a great protein source and a good fat as well! good luck!
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L.A. answers from Seattle on January 24, 2009
There is a saying 9 months on - then 9 months off - so just know that - it took you 9 months to put on the weight - so it should take you 9 months to put it off - and if you never lost the weight with baby 2 it might take a wee bit longer.
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B.M. answers from Portland on January 24, 2009
It might seem weird, but I think you need to increase your calories! If you are working out as much as you are and are working with a trainer, your body needs more fuel. If we do not eat enough, our bodies will hold what we have because it feels as it is not getting the nutrients it needs. I know it sounds crazy, but try it. You should consume about 1500 a day. It does take a woman's body two years to get back to normal after having a baby. So, take it easy on yourself. I know how hard it is. I still fight that battle too. Good luck
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L.H. answers from Anchorage on January 23, 2009
I lost most of my weight after having my twins. Then a weird thing happened. I went from a size 6 to a size 12 in two weeks. I went to see my naturopath and even though my thyroid levels were normal I had hypothyroid symptoms so they put me on thyroid. I also found out I have gluten sensitivity (maybe celiac).Sometimes a gluten sensivity can make you gain weight. I also decided to do the metabolic typing diet and got really good results with it. Even better was how I felt after I got off the wheat. I didn't get to finish loosing all my weight because I got pregnant again. Isn't that how it always goes?:) Once I'm done being pregnant I will go back on the metabolic typing diet. Maybe you just need more protein and less carbs. Maybe how much your eating of one thing is causing the problem. Good Luck to you! I know how frustrating it is. I hope this kindof helped.
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L.L. answers from Seattle on January 23, 2009
I hung onto most of my weight until I stopped nursing. Once I stopped nursing, it dropped fairly quickly. My guess is that since you are no longer nursing and no longer needing to hang on to those calories to produce milk, that you will begin to lose weight. It certainly sounds like you are doing your best to at least stay in shape. Perhaps you might need to find a way to put a little more protein in your diet. As the daughter of a vegetarian (not vegan), I can imagine that as a vegan it is extra hard to find those proteins.
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