B.W. asks from Gig Harbor, WA on August 07, 2008
Night Weaning Breastfed Baby
We ascribe to the attachment parenting philosophies, and I have breastfed my baby, who turned one a couple weeks ago. She obviously is now also on solids and since her first birthday, organic whole milk. However, she has NEVER been a good night sleeper, despite any nap schedule we've tried, and part of that, we believe and our doctor believes, is because I'm still breastfeeding. At night if she wakes up, why WOULDN'T she prefer a dose of mama milk to ease her peacefully back to sleep, right? Anyway, we're starting to think about trying for baby number two some time this fall, and from what I remember about how exhausted I was during pregnancy, getting up multiple times per night isn't sounding good! To be honest, it doesn't sound good NOW, but we've been patient with the process. We've been discussing weaning our daughter off nighttime breastfeeding in anticipation of a hopeful second pregnancy (but still breastfeeding other times of day for now). We want to try it when we have 2-3 days off work, as we fully expect a few nights of more-than-usual sleep deprivation, so we've kind of targeted Labor Day weekend (fun, fun, fun). I was wondering if any other mothers out there (who share our attachment parenting philosophies) had any helpful tips or knowledge about this that we may want to hear before we make our stand, so to speak. Thanks!
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So What Happened?™
We haven't started the night weaning process yet, so this isn't a true "what happened". But I wanted to say thanks for all the helpful tips and letters of support I got from other AP moms. It helps to know we're not alone, regardless! I'll let you know how it goes over Labor Day--at the very least now I have some people other than myself telling my husband that he may be on high alert those days! :) He loves Piper dearly, but middle of the night is just NOT his thing. :) Thanks SO much!
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J.S. answers from Seattle on August 08, 2008
Patience and consistency from you is key. Maybe dad getting up a few nights when baby wakes up so you aren't tempted.
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M.C. answers from Portland on August 07, 2008
I just wanted to mention...I got pregnant accidentally when my daughter was 12 months, who was a booby addict at the time, cosleeping, and still nursing about 3–4 times a night (and I could never sleep at night while she was nursing). I was planning on night-weaning her before the baby came, probably when she was at least 18 months old (baby is due when she's 21 months old). I have read Dr Jay Gordon's night weaning plan (http://www.drjaygordon.com/development/ap/sleep.asp), which does involve crying (of course baby will resist) but crying-in-arms, never crying-alone. I was planning on only night-weaning when I got to that stage of needing it so badly. It gave me assurance that if I felt I needed to night-wean, at least I knew where to start.
However, my milk ended up disappearing pretty quickly in the pregnancy (during the first trimester) and she ended up night-weaning herself, with no tears! Just one night she started sleeping all the way through, and that was that! We now lay her in her own bed in our room, and in the morning she will come up to me in my bed and have some more nummies before getting up. We might move her out of the room before baby; we might not.
Thankfully she is still nursing now, and I'm hoping to tandem nurse when the new one arrives, as I really wanted my first-born to self-wean and nurse until at least past two. We'll see what happens, it's up to her.
So I just wanted to say that the pregnancy might bring about changes that you don't anticipate!
Good luck!
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H.A. answers from Portland on August 08, 2008
We did this with our daughter when she was 15 months old (she's 18 months now. We managed it without kicking her out of our bed, too! What I realized is that most of her middle-of-the-night waking wasn't actually waking, and that it was MY fault she was dependent on nursing to settle back down. I'd developed a habit of sticking a nipple in her mouth as soon as she started fussing. By letting her just fuss, I learned that she wasn't fully waking up, and after 5-10 minutes (LONG minutes!), she'd settle back down on her own.
If she did fully wake up, I had a sippy cup ready. But what she wanted was "boobie" because what she wanted was comfort and closeness. So I or my husband held her.
Within 3 days, she was down to fully waking at 5:30. That was close enough to morning for me to nurse her. She was already weaned in the daytime, so we went down to nursing just in the morning and at bedtime. A month ago I stopped boobie at 5:30 and gave her a sippy cup instead. Now she sleeps through until 6:30-7:00.
The bedtime weaning is next. THAT will be the hard one.
Good luck!
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S.C. answers from Portland on August 08, 2008
B.,
My husband and I weaned our 1 year old off of night time feeding when I got pregnant when he was 5 months old. It took us about a week. What worked for us was...For night 1 and 2 my husband went in with my pumped milk and gave it to him at the time he would normally eat. He was not really thrilled, but he is attached to daddy and so it was fine. On night 3 and 4 we put water in his cup. He was not two happy, but daddy stayed with him and rocked him and sang to him. Offering the liquid if he wanted it. For the rest of the week my husband went in if he woke up, offered the water or a snuggle/song. By the end of the week he didn't wake up (for 12 hours:-). We didn't believe in the let him keep crying, so if he was awake and upset he was being offered some other form of comfort. Also, I made the morning time really special snuggle time. I hope this helps.
Note: He will occasionally wake up during the night, especially if he is teething really bad, or his not feeling well(maybe once a month). I usually decide to breastfeed him, and he goes right down. I haven't found that he wants to revert back to wakening up at night from these rare nocturnal episodes.
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S.S. answers from Portland on August 08, 2008
B.,
I don't really have any advice, I just wanted to say that we are going thru exactly the same thing. I was composing this request in my head yesterday, and just never got to the computer. So thank you and good luck, we are right there next to you.
Dr. Sears can be a real inspiration, but I'm sure you're reading that already. Every time we have a rough night (pretty much every night) I just look at my DD and remember how short this time is and that soon she'll be a "big girl" and I'll look back on the sleepless nights with fond memories... hopefully ;)
J.S. answers from Seattle on August 08, 2008
I would say to start limiting the amount of time she nurses, shortening the amounts by 2 minutes every couple days. For example, if she nurses now for 15 minutes before falling asleep, let her nurse for 13 and then gently scoot her up to a snuggle on your chest for the last couple. After a couple nights, let her nurse for 11 minutes, then snuggle for 4, etc.
I did a combination of this and the cry it out method, which really worked well and only took about 5 nights. We snuggled for 15 minutes and then I put her in bed, and at first she cried after putting her down, but then she realized the routine and has slept fine ever since. I understand that this doesn't fit with the attachment parenting completely, but wanted to give you my experience because yes, you will need full night sleep when you're pregnant! Attaching to dad really helps, too. Baby learns that when dad comes in she'll get lots of love and attention, but she knows he can't feed her.
D.G. answers from Seattle on August 08, 2008
Hi B.,
We had our little boy in bed with us until he was 2, then we booted him into his own bed since he had a baby sister on the way! (One of us still lies down with him in the evening to read to him and help him fall asleep.) I weaned him over a very long period of time, first stopping "morning booba", then stopping nursing outside the home; next we stopped night booba. I simply told him that the boobas were sleeping. He cried a little for maybe a couple of nights but I rubbed his back and cuddled with him and he fell back to sleep no problem. Actually I think it only took one night and after that, he actually slept much better! He didn't wake up anymore at night! I remember being amazed, having thought that it would be much more traumatic for him. So I would say just go for it; be gentle, but go for it. You may be surprised how easy it is. Our last weaning was of "lie down booba" before bed. That took a couple of days, but by that point I was 5 mos pregnant with our second and it was *painful* beyond belief for me, so I really felt that what was so bad for me couldn't be good for our relationship anyhow. By then he was 2 and 2 months. Again, it wasn't as hard as I thought it would be. Good luck!!!
D.H. answers from Portland on August 07, 2008
There's no way you can force your baby to wean at night if she is still sleeping with you. Either be ok with having her sleep in another space (which will take some time) or be ok with letting her night wean at her own pace.
If she is not sleeping with you, the steps would be the same as with a bottle-fed baby who is in the habit of calling for (and getting) a bottle in the middle of the night: Go in and soothe her when she cries out, tell her it is nighttime, and nighttime is for sleeping not eating. It will be hard the first night but shouldn't take too long to get her weaned.
Good luck.
S.L. answers from Eugene on August 08, 2008
I don't know if I have much advice but I was excited to see your question. My daughter turns one tomorrow and she still primarily nurses. She eats a few solids but is just such a heavy nurser. We also believe in attachment parenting and my husband and I were just saying, we need to find some more resources for attachment parenting a toddler. It was easy to feed on demand, etc. when she was a newborn but now that she's older (and I'm yearning for more sleep) how do I stick to my attachment parenting philosophies and yet, transition out of this need for nursing so frequently. I'd be curious to hear how it goes for you and if nothing else, at least you know you are not alone at 2 am, 4am, or 6am as you wake to nurse yet again! :)
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