C.C. asks from Huntsville, AL on October 17, 2008
Need Help with Sister in Law and Newborn
My sister in law had a baby on Oct 7th,she is young (19) I am 25 and my son is 9 months. She is breast and bottlefeeding. this is a very unusual situation. She and my brother live with our parents. She did not childbirth classes, no reading nothing to prepare her for life with a child. My question is, how do we, as concerned family members let her know she is doing things wrong? She refuses to let him down, (even to eat) she hasn't eaten in two days, she sleeps with him in their bed, on his stomach no less, he isn't allowed to cry, everytime he does she pops a nipple or bottle in his mouth. She just sits at home and holds him, I don't want her to start having negative feelings toward him because she can't do anything, but at the same time she is endangering his life. My brother can't seem to get through to her, and my parents have tried non aggressive suggestions, i have also. she just ignores us and does the opposite. What do we do? How do we approach the subject? Help my family....
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Well, i got alot of positive and negative feedback on the situation. I learned everyone is different, and told my family to back off and focus on the positive, that noone mothers like i do and children all over the world have survived! I do feel there is so much info out there with conficting opinions, that sometimes what works for one is not good for another. Thanks moms for showing me that everyone is different!!
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D.P. answers from Biloxi on October 18, 2008
I seems to me that she sounds like a very good mother. There are much much worse things that she could do to harm her child than holding him all day long. It sounds like she wants the best for her child. She may be inexperienced but she will learn over time how to be the best mother she can be. I would just let her know that you are always there for her if she needs support. Not pushing but support. Support when she feels like all she does is hold him and she is tired of not being able to shower and such.
A.M. answers from Lawton on October 17, 2008
What Liev said :)
It sounds like she needs a baby carrier so she can do things (like eat!) while still holding her baby. http://www.thebabywearer.com/ can be overwhelming to browse but their forums are wonderful.
I had a baby who had to sleep on her stomach. The alternative was her waking up screaming every 45 minutes. It really is OK.
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M.B. answers from Baton Rouge on October 18, 2008
Dear C.,
I do not mean to sound harsh... so just read this as a straight to the point view as well as that of a licensed social worker.
Your sis in law is doing nothing wrong. AND I do mean NOTHING wrong... she is just doing things different from you. And while your brother and you and your parnets agree on one way.... it does not make her different way wrong....it is just different. Keep in mind that your family should have similiar views as you were all rasied together. As for the sis in law.... she has every right to lavish her child with as much attention as she desires. And just because you feel she will become resentful... DOES NOT mean she will.
Alot of what you are complaining about is nothing more than your opinion, feelings and what ifs...
So what if her baby died tomorrow... i bet she would feel as though she was the best mom to him/her ever. There is no need to what if... life is not in the what ifs.
So to quickly give feedback....
"she is 19...you are 25 with a 9 mo old"
Why is this important... i know alot of great 16 year old moms and some awful 30 yr old ones... i know great first moms and lots of bad 3rd timers... and while you are more experienced than her with your already having a child... you do not know everything. don't forget that every pregnancy is different for every women and even the same woman.... and that goes for children too!
"unusual situation" feeding both by breast and bottle...
this is not unusal at all. most women these days want to breast feed and they do, and at least half of them either feel they need to supplement to give their baby a full tummy or just to have a visual aid as to how much the baby is really getting. Her feeding style is not neglectful or abusive... and unless she is asking for your advice... you really need to keep it yourself.
"no child classes, no reading" .... oh my... those books are not the how to raise a baby and the only way to learn... they are helpful to people who feel insecure or what to know more... but obviously she delivered her baby without a childbirth class and i am sure she can raise the child without a book. What do you think people in 3rd world countires do, or what do you think people did 100s of years ago? Just so you know.. you can read all the text books you want and they will never tell you how to raise a child. The best way is with warmth, love, care and concern.
"cosleeps and sleeps on tummy"
cosleeping is a private choice and is NOT dangerous. This needs to be decided by the parents....as obviously some of us have harder sleep patterns and would not wake for a baby... but some of us are okay with cosleeping. This is not abusive or neglectful again and is really none of you or your family's business. As for him tummy sleeping.... again not your concern. i do realize that currently the standard is to sleep on the back... but mind you that changes every few years and so either is a personal choice.
"never let's him down or cry".... again her parenting style and while it may be lavishing.. it is not detrimental to the child... she is just super loving and wants to comfort her baby. as for her not eating... i am sure she will soon as she will get weak if she does not... (this is about the only place you can offer advice to her... and just mention that you are concerned about her getting something to eat as she needs the food for energy to care for her baby but also to keep her milk production and flow good.)
So the last thing is the help you requested... if you want to help your family... then you will all get better boundaries and learn what is and is not your business as she is not endangering her child's life in anyway. And then to help your poor brother out.. you and your parents need to back off. how he and his wife raise their child as long as it is not abusive nor neglectful is none of anyone else's (including you and the family) business. And if your brother feels strongly about it then he can seek marital counsleing with his wife... then make sure to tell him that he needs to complain to the counselor not you. and also keep your feelings about his marriage and child rearing quiet. soon you will all have better boundaries and eventually your sis in law will feel less bombarded by you all. if not then you are harming your brother...as soon his wife is going to get fed up with the unsolicated advice giving and intrusive in laws. And that will not be good for the baby you are so worried about.
In short just mellow out and let them be. She will do what is best for her family as I presume you are doing for yours... and again there is not a RIGHT way.... just good and different.
If this still bothers you... please seek counseling or try the book: "Boundaries, when you end and I begin." It is more geared towards codependent adults but I think your family could use some idea of healthier boundaries.
God Bless,
MB
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K.F. answers from Huntsville on October 17, 2008
I'm 31, an educated woman, and I have a 5 month old son as well as a 2yo. When each was born, I held him almost all the time - its called bonding. (Daddy and others got to take turns) I never let him cry - when he did his diaper got changed, or he got a boob. Newborn babies don't cry for the heck of it. Something is bothering them, and crying is their only method of communication. Remember back to when you were a new mom - and how the sound of your crying infant bothered you - it was a sound that shattered all thoughts in your head. We co slept (and still do) Its all called being a MOTHER. There are many different philosophies on parenting, and just because she does things differently than you do, doesn't mean she is doing something wrong or being a bad mother. Sounds like she is trying to follow her instinct, and is probably tired of everyone else telling her to go against her gut and do what they say. When your children were born, I'm sure you got tons of advice, and that you took some, and ignored what didn't feel right to you. Instead of criticizing, why not try and help? If she hasn't eaten, don't tell her she must put the baby down, insted make her something to eat that she can hold easily while caring for her baby. Encourage her efforts to breastfeed, its best for the baby. See if there is a lactation consultant nearby she can visit to help with any problems she might be having, and the LC could help her learn to nurse side-lying so she can get rest with baby snuggled to her side instead of face down - that is the one and only thing that would concern me. Co sleeping can be done safely and responsibly, and perhaps if she heard how to do it safely from someone who wants to encourage her, instead of her family who is constantly criticizing her efforts, she might be more receptive to learning what is safe and what is not.
I know you are trying your best to help, but let her be the mother - no matter whether you feel she is ready or not, she is now a mom.
Blessings on your family's new bundle of joy!
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L.B. answers from Fayetteville on October 17, 2008
Hi, there,
I'm writing this quickly before my baby wakes up from her nap! SOrry if it is a little scattered.
I understand that it can be hard when someone is doing things so differently than you do, and thinking it is unsafe for a vulnerable little baby!
Let me reassure you, though. There is actually a lot of literature out there for how to safely sleep with one's baby. It's actually very safe, especially when done properly. Not only that, but it is very good for bonding, and for the baby's development. What you can do is encourage the good things your sister-in-law is doing, and give her information that helps her to do the things she does in the best possible way.
There is also a very widely respected school of thought that responding sensitively and immediately to baby's cries is very good for developing strong communication between parents and children. The cry-it-out approach, in this school of thought, is considered not only traumatic for the baby, but unnatural, and breaks down communication and makes discipline difficult later. I'm sure that loving parents have used it as part of an overall very caring approach to their children, and their children have been okay, in spite of this unfortunately well-marketed advice, but it is a tradition best left in the past.
The baby sleeping on his stomach isn't as dangerous as you think. It DOES increase the risk of SIDS, but it is only one factor in many. Sleeping with his mother reduces the SIDS risk because she is in effect acting as a respiratory pacemaker for him. The risk that she will smother him is almost non-existent. Mothers are very in-tune with their infants and don't roll over them unless they're drugged, have been drinking, or are extremely sleep-deprived.
WHat you can do, though, is encourage your SIL to put her son to sleep on his side. I think hwat she is intuiting is that babies experience a falling sensation because lying flat on their backs is so foreign to them, and by comparison to being upside-down and snugly-fit in the womb, flat and stretched out on their backs feels like falling. Putting him on his side is a safer and more comfortable compromise. Gently stretching out his bottom arm helps keep him from rolling over onto his stomach.
Speaking of the mother's health, she probably hasn't eaten in 2 days because she is so overwhelmed with caring for her baby! You can really score points and gain entry to her thought process by showing her some kindness. Make her some of her favorite, healthy food and offer it to her in a women-bonding type of way. Sit down and ask her how she's doing. Listen. That is a great way to get her to listen to YOU.
You do want to gently encourage her to breastfeed exclusively. Bottle feeding mixed in with breastfeeding severely undermines milk supply and can confuse the baby. Bottle feeding's also easier for the baby than breastfeeding, which takes a little muscle (and is therefore better or the baby).
As for developing negative feelings toward the baby: at first, the attachment parenting approach DOES take a lot of involvement. But that's how parenting goes. In the attachment approach, which is what your sister-in-law is more or less following (but needs more information about), the time/energy/attention commitment is invested earlier, and pays off later as the child is growing up feeling very secure in his parents' love, and becomes more independent, less clingy and better disciplined.
DO show sympathy for the hard work that parenting takes, and make sure that your brother is giving her breaks. Make sure to encourage him to be very involved: changing clothes and diapers, and helping with baths. Make sure that he is helping with food and keeping the house in order.
In the beginning, for all of us, of course parenting is very hard and overwhelming. It is hard to watch, and she will make her mistakes, but your SIL, being so close with her baby, has been learning about his needs at tremendous rates. Tell her that you think it's wonderful that she is being so caring and attentive to her baby's needs. We can all agree on that, and it's a great starting point to introducing some advice. But be willing to see that different parenting styles also have their merits! And she will more or less do best, for her baby, by following the ways that seem most natural to her, just as you have more or less done best, for your son, by doing what felt best to you.
So, again, what you can do is encourage your sister-in-law to learn *how* to respond to her son's cues, since, after all, it's not only hunger that will make him cry. (Gas is a big one, of course! Teach her the lubricated-thermometer-in-the-bum trick to relieve his pain.) You can also tell her that crying is a late feeding cue. Teach your sister-in-law about rooting behaviors that signal hungry before the baby gets frantic.
If it were me in your situation, I'd buy a cheap used copy of Dr. Sears' Attachment Parenting Book, and his Baby Book, on amazon.com. Dr. Sears is an extremely experienced and well-respected pediatrician, with 8 happy, healthy, successful children of his own! It sounds like your SIL WOULD listen to his advice, especially if you introduce it as information that really supports the natural instincts that your SIL is so brilliantly following on her own (the best way to reach your SIL is by showing her your respect for her obvious intense desire to care for her son instinctively, and not to knock the mistakes). Dr. Sears just fills in some of the gaps with his medical knowledge. Tell her that all of us mothers have our instincts, but there are just some things that instincts are a little vague on. Like that fantastic thermometer trick!!!
L.
PS about her staying in the house: some moms want to get out. Others LOVE their nest. I pretty much didn't get out beyond trips to the dr. for 2 months (still really don't get out much!), and i don't resent my baby. Your SIL is doing it her way. 10 days after birth, it's very normal to just want to be snug with baby. This could last a while, but don't put stress on her. *That* would be the emotionally unhealthy thing for her. Staying in holding and bonding with her baby is a good thing!
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B.G. answers from Jackson on October 20, 2008
She sounds like a wonderful young mother! I didn't bottlefeed my babies, but when they were that tiny I held them all the time, breastfed on demand, ate when I could, and slept with them in my bed - and I was a 26 year old first time mom with years of baby care experience with no resentment for the time and attention my babies needed. She's putting her baby's needs first and that is less common in a teenage mom. Breastfeeding made me hungry early on, and she is probably eating more than you realize. Honestly, I'm a bit curious about how you care for your baby since you see so much wrong with your sil that does so much right. She should be admired and supported.
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B.C. answers from Alexandria on October 18, 2008
I was 19 when I had my first baby and didn't take any childbirth or parenting classes. I also co-slept with both of my kids, and rarely put them down. My first daughter had colic really bad, so if I wasn't holding her she was screaming her head off. Trying to eat was so difficult. I had to learn to eat with one hand so I could be holding or breastfeeding the baby, and try to eat. If I didn't learn how to do that I would have never eaten! Maybe her son has colic. And she might just be the kind of girl who likes holding her child a lot. I think it all depends on your personality.
Both of my girls were held a lot and breastfed on demand. So if they cried, they were changed and fed. I also found co-sleeping enjoyable for the baby and I. They slept better than if I tried laying them down, and I was able to nurse and be comfortable at night. I was in my last year of college with my first so sleep was hard to come by.
You say she never took any parenting classes or birthing classes, but maybe she has researched on line. Or browsed through books at the library or store without bringing any home. I think you should give her a little more credit. It sounds like she is very concerned for her baby and wants to make sure he is happy and feels loved.
The greatest help would be to stop adding suggestions. Especially if they are coming from your brother. My in-laws used to do that to me ALL the time and it really annoyed and hurt me. Making meals that can easily be eaten while hold a baby would be a great help. Or even just purchasing healthy snacks for her to eat. I used to always have food by me over on the couch so I could snack while feeding the baby. Maybe suggest that she eats even while feeding her baby. Offering to hold the baby so she can cook dinner or shower.
I don't know the whole situation, so she might have a little depression or maybe not. I didn't with either one of my girls, so it's not uncommon for people not to be depressed. She might also be secluding herself since it sounds like she is constantly being bombarded with questions from you family. It may be making her uncomfortable, especially if you have said she is endangering the baby. I hope everything works out for your family! Have a great weekend!
L.C. answers from Monroe on October 18, 2008
hello! reading this is something. young like u say and don't know. I say let her find out the hard way. and she will trust me. She will need help one day and the crying will get all over her, she will call upon family then. the baby in bed is a bad thing all the time, she will have hard time training this child when she really wants too. I see she is overprotected and she and the dad must have had rounds and she is tryn so hard to love his baby. I hope one day she'll wake up and smell the flowers. all is well take c.
A.M. answers from Lawton on October 17, 2008
What Liev said :)
It sounds like she needs a baby carrier so she can do things (like eat!) while still holding her baby. http://www.thebabywearer.com/ can be overwhelming to browse but their forums are wonderful.
I had a baby who had to sleep on her stomach. The alternative was her waking up screaming every 45 minutes. It really is OK.
G.M. answers from New Orleans on October 18, 2008
I am married, with a 12yr old and an almost 18 yr old. Over the years, after hearing from the 1st child being born, to the second one (born in another state) what "everyone thought I should be doing" as a new mom, I have learned there is no "perfect" way to raise a child. Every decision from breastfeeding, to crying, to picking out schools is simply trial and error. Letting your new, yet young and inexperienced sister make mistakes is the only way she can learn to be the best mom she can be for this wonderful gift god has chosen for her. Unfortunately, telling her what she is doing wrong in her will probably push her further away. Soon enough she will discover 3 in the bed is too many, and simple "my time" when the baby is napping is a joy. But it will have to be her decision ....... afterall, we can only do the best we know how. Every mom makes mistakes, and no one is the "perfect" mom, and many of us would surely change some things we did....... let her enjoy the baby the best way she knows how. She will learn her own "routine" in due time.
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