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Need Help Getting Daughters to Keep Room and House Decluttered

This is my first request of the mamas but won't be my last! I am looking ahead toward summer vacation and don't want things to turn into a free-for-all around the house. Up to this point I have not been good about getting my daughters (5 and 8) to keep their rooms picked up and the toys from all areas of the house. When they were young I did it and now it is just easier for me to do it than to deal with their whining and refusal to do it when I ask. However, this is wearing me out and I've had enough of the maid service.

Unfortunately I'm not the neatest person in the world so I haven't been teaching my children good skills. We've just moved into a new house and I want to start fresh with some new rules and techniques. I'm looking for suggestions on how to motivate them or specific organization techniques THAT WORK FOR YOU. At these ages, how much should they be expected to do? I've tried sticker charts in the past which worked for awhile. Does anyone tie allowance into keeping the house picked up and if so how much do you give? Any suggestions will be great!

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Try going to www.housefairy.com it is quit helpful and fun for the children and relieves you from the stress of always having to nag. Hope this helps.

vwitles

hi J.
well i am not the worlds best house keeper either but my daughter tells her children to pick up and after 3 times she picks up and puts toys where they cant get them for a month the 2nd time she tells them and they dont do it she donates to charity then they soon learn to pick up and also doesnt replace the toys taken away

Hi J.! This is what works for me...I keep several baskets (small round laundry baskets work well) around the house. Throughout the day my kids (3 1/2 and 6) to put their things in them when they are done and we all put whatever's in the baskets away together at the end of the evening. We make a game (like basketball) out of throwing things in them and then when it's time to put things away I pull all the baskets together, sort each kids stuff into their own basket and off they go to their room to put it away. Anything that's left goes in the trash (harsh, but it only took once to get them to put it away!) Hope this helps! B.

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Hi J., I can relate! I like reading what others suggest, too, because it seems we have struggled with neatness in our house forever (sometimes we succeed, sometimes we don't), and I have been willing to try about anything people have suggested. I have a lot to say, so hopefully this won't get too long.

First, we explained that we are a team. A family is a team working together for the good of each other. Working together was what we do, and it is not an option.

Second, I agree that it is good to be a good example. I had a difficult time myself, so a good friend of mine helped put ME on a cleaning schedule. I wrote out a calendar that included my cleaning times of the day. On a separate list, I wrote down WHAT I would do that day. 15 minutes at a time was dedicated to decluttering (it has to be doable). The remaining time of the day was allocated to the other stuff -- vacuuming, dusting, bathrooms, etc. Even kitchen clean up was on the list. Whatever didn't get done in the allotted time was just left until next time, so I wasn't always playing catch up. She was insistant that I discipline myself that way, and I tell you what, it really worked. Even if I missed vacuuming time, I was on schedule for everything else, and usually found the time to squeeze the vacuuming in before the next week's time anyway, so my house was always as sanitary as possible.

The second thing was that we seriously, SERIOUSLY decluttered. If I have too much stuff, I end up making piles. If the kids have too much stuff, they are deer in the headlights and do nothing but melt down. For our girls, especially, after we tried everything else and they still couldn't clean up their own room, we weeded through all their stuff and allowed them to decide what to keep. When it came to dolls, for example, they picked 3 a piece. That was it. I think it was 3 dolls and 3 barbies, or something (we have a small place), a limited number of animals, etc. It was tough, but once we got through it and they mourned their losses, they were HAPPIER. They were so happy they could manage their own stuff. I think the freedom it gave them surprised them.

Another thing we do is keep some things with small parts inaccessible to them. They have to ask for it, and they put the pieces away before I get anything else like that down. Even if they can reach it themselves, it is known that they are not allowed without permission.

Other things we do that help: Every child has a chore list that is posted in their room and in the kitchen. It has a checklist for the morning, a checklist for the evening. I list every little thing, like 1) Brush Teeth, 2) Make Bed, 3) Put dirty clothes in hamper, 4) Put clean clothes in the drawers, and so on. For the pre-readers, I used pictures. I did attach allowance to those for a long time (they're older now and earn money in other ways, so that doesn't motivate them. Now they know it is just expected, and the list is a guideline). I would do "checks" by a certain time in the morning. If they had everything done (good enough, depending on the age of the child), then I would mark that they get their allowance for the day. I paid them at the end of each day at first so they would see that it really was going to pay off. Later, it was weekly. I didn't pay much so I wouldn't go broke, but they thought it was fun to collect the money (it was change, and they put it in a jar).

We also play games with clean-up sometimes. I'll say, "Everybody stop. Look around the living room. I want you to find and put away 10 things (sometimes more)." I do it myself, too, and I try to make it sound fun. For whatever reason, they're less resistant when we do it that way. Maybe because they have a goal they know they can reach, not an overwhelming task that might never get done in time for them to get to play something they wanted to play.

Another thing I do that they think is fun is time them. I take a good look around the room to memorize as much of it as I can. Then I ask them to see how much they can do in 5 minutes. After 5 minutes, I come back and try to point out everything I notice that is different. That takes a lot of work for me, but they love it when I notice and point out what they've done and compliment it. It's a good way to praise them for their efforts.

Sometimes I just show them or tell them what I want done, and I tell them that I'll time them to see how quickly they can do it. Then I say, "On your mark, get set, go", and they are off. When they are done, I stop the time, and then I inspect and point out the good stuff. If there's more to do, we time that separately, but they usually go for that game. My youngest sister tells me to this day that she loved it when she was little and I would play that game with her (she had a hard time cleaning up, too).

So I guess to summarize that much, make sure they realize it isn't an option -- you are a team, break it down into bite-sized chunks, schedule it, make it as fun as possible, go ahead and reward (within a reasonable means), pare down the amount of stuff they can scatter everywhere, genuinely compliment what they do accomplish.

If this doesn't work with my kids, maybe because somebody is deciding to just be lazy or disobedient, we have to go into consequences. That's never fun. The most effective of these, though, is when we tell them that they can't eat their next meal or snack until it is done. I hold to it strictly. They have to sit in their rooms until we're done eating a meal, even, so we don't have to hear wailing, if somebody chooses to protest. I had my younger daughter skip 2 meals, which scared me, but she did the clean up, and she suffered no damage. That's when we decided to simply pare down the amount of stuff she had (I didn't want her to go THAT long without eating). After that, nobody has missed a meal again. If I say it must be done before 9am, at which time breakfast time is no longer offered in the kitchen and they will have to wait until lunch, by golly, it is done well before 9am.

Another effective consequence has been cancelling the fun plans for that child for the day. If he/she was suppose to go somewhere, oh well. He/she didn't follow through on his/her responsibilities, so no party, or no playdate, or whatever. It's hard to do without feeling horrible, but it is worth it to teach responsibility. It's a real life consequence, which is better now as a child than with something of more significance as an adult (when the world is less forgiving). It's a lesson that will serve the child well for a lifetime.

We tried a bunch of other stuff, too, like a box where I put stuff that they wouldn't pick up, and they had to buy it back, and if they didn't, I'd give it away. That works for some people. It didn't work all that well for my kids. My most stubborn one would leave her pillow and blankets on the floor so she wouldn't have to make her bed, for example. She'd stubbornly sleep without blankets. I'd get up in the morning, and she's have a coat on in bed. Okee dokee. I don't think I'm going to give the pillow and blankets and comforter away, and I think she knew she could beat me at that game, so instead of letting her know I was beat, I changed tactics on her. She was the one who also missed 2 meals and then we got rid of most of her stuff. (Hopefully your children are easier than her.) She's 9 now, and she is actually one of the neater children (she still makes huge messes, but she takes pride in picking them up now), so we were successful eventually. She still needs the checklist and reminders, but she requires few consequences.

As far as age-appropriate expectations, that depends. I'd start small and over time expect more. For my children, I started kind of young with picking up. Then by the time they were 4 or 5, they were emptying bathroom garbage cans into large paper bags and taking them to the garbage, for example. At about the age of 5 or 6, they'd start helping with dishes (starting with the plastic ones and the silverware). At 6, they can handle a broom okay. One can hold a broom, the other a dustpan, and they can help sweep the floor after meals. I taught them how to wipe off the table, sweep the floor, and wash the dishes pretty young. They're dusting by the time they're about 8 or 9. My oldest kids (ages 9 - 12) can scrub bathtubs and sinks. My 12 year old can clean a toilet. They're not always as thorough as I would like, but they're slowly getting better at that, too. We're to the place now where they do 50 percent of the house chores. I don't think that is unfair, since they make MORE than 50 percent of the mess. I deal with meal planning, meal preparation, shopping, bills, my own clutter and mess, my own bathroom, my own bedroom, most of the vacuuming (because I like doing it, and I like it done thoroughly), I share with them the cleaning of the hard wood floors, I wash the laundry (they fold it and put it away), and I oversee what they do. It's nice! The hard work paid off. And they'll know how to take care of themselves when they leave home.

Try going to www.housefairy.com it is quit helpful and fun for the children and relieves you from the stress of always having to nag. Hope this helps.

vwitles

Good Luck ! When you figure it out let the rest of us clutterers in on it. The trick is implementing something you know YOU ( not them - they can learn any routine) can stick with.

I'm still playing catch up all the time or letting it go until I hit a lull at work. ( I work full time) My daughter will clean her room if a friend is coming over.

Check out http://www.housefairy.org/ and http://www.flylady.com/ . Not everything suggested in the House Fairy site may work for you - particularly if you are Jewish, since the premise is that she is the sister of Santa Claus - but you can use parts and adapt as it works. Your girls may be a bit old for the house fairy, but the basic premise of making it fun and something to look forward to, works for all ages. Even grownups. :)

Hi J.,
Starting fresh at a new house is always a good idea. My children are 5 and 6 and are expected to pick up their toys, make their beds, put away their laundry, clear the table, wash dishes, dust, vaccuum and anything else I ask them to do that they are capable of doing. Of course, the first few times you start a new chore you need to show them, then help them, then watch them, and then inspect when they are finished so they can learn to do it the way you expect it to be done. You have gotten some great tips about getting organized, We use cubbys with small bowls for little stuff in side. They have to know where things go in order to be able to put it away. I also, do the "if I have to pick it up its gone" I will ask one time and give them a set amount of time to complete the task and if they leave and don't finish picking up their toys then I pick them up and they don't get them back for a while. The other thing we just rescently did which has really helped, and your girls are old enough that it will probably work better for you. We all sit down together and made a list of thing we should do for each other like saying please and thank you and putting our stuff away so the the house stays neat for everyone, ect. And things we should not do like saying ugly words, begging, whinning, mama screaming, ect. Then we agreed on the consequences. If someone is caught doing something wrong they get 2 chances to correct their behavior and then they go to time out. If they fuss about going to time out they loose a toy. This includes the kids catching the parents breaking a rule, like using and ugly word or leaving our stuff lying around. Also, if someone gets caught doing something good they get a token, token can be exchanged for special privilages. Anyway, we typed it all up on pretty paper and eveyone signed it and it is pasted on our refrigerator. This has been the biggest help of anything we have ever tried because we all know the rules and the consequences and it has kept me consistent with enforcing them. Hope this helps and you have a peacful new home.
P.

hi J.
well i am not the worlds best house keeper either but my daughter tells her children to pick up and after 3 times she picks up and puts toys where they cant get them for a month the 2nd time she tells them and they dont do it she donates to charity then they soon learn to pick up and also doesnt replace the toys taken away

My sister gave me this wonderful website or I think so anyway call flylady.net. I hope this will help you out.

I have an 11 yr old son and 5 yr old daughter. I have a difficult time of getting them to keep things half way neat too. With my son, though, the allowance thing has become a great incentive. He is told that if we have tot ell him to do a chore, he gets no allowance for the week. After a couple of weeks went by without the money ($10/week), he started getting better. My little one still likes to feel like she is helping. So for her, I tell her what her "job" is each day. Her reward is praise and maybe a trip to the dollar store. Find what motivates your girls and use it to your advantage. And remember, YOU are the parent. They have to do what you ask, or ELSE!!

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