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S.M. asks from Farmington, UT on October 22, 2006
My Three Year Old Won't Listen to Me...
So I was hoping that old saying the "terrible two's" was true to its claim. My son has been so sweet his whole life, its only lately that he is telling me no, and hitting. He will not listen to me, and seems to love acting out. I am a single mom and have to work full time, so I have full time daycare, and I am not around him all day everyday. I have a hard time with discipline, partly because the few hours a day I have with him I want us to be happy, and partly because I really don't know what to do. How do you communicate with a three year old?
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Wow!! I love this site! I am amazed on how much I can do to help my little guy become a great man (thanks Shawna). I think alot of my problem was that I didn't think my 3 year old could understand what he was doing or why he was doing it. My excuse was always.. "he's a baby, he doesn't understand". But since I have gotten all of your advice, I realized that he is very capable of comprehending his actions and consequences. I have tried the time-out deal, and even though I feel like crying along with him as he sits in his chair, it seems to be working. Especially, when I talk to him after he gets off time out, and explain to him that hitting is not nice and that I want him to be nice and happy! I also, LOVE all of the advice I was given on positive reinforcement for good behavior and helping. My son LOVES to help me clean up, I didn't know that before. Anyway, thank you so much for all of your advice, I really appreciate it! You guys are awesome! My goal for us being happy together seems to be closer then I thought! YAY!
E.J. answers from Eugene on October 25, 2006
I have found with my 3 year old daughter is to do a sticker chart. When she does what she is supposed to do then she gets to put a sticker on her chart. But when she is "bad" I tell her that she can't have a sticker. It seems to be working well.
M.W. answers from Boise on October 23, 2006
Had the same trouble with my boy at that age! I even took him to a counselor because I thought he had an anger problem. Perfectly normal! The best thing for us is to picka discipline and stick to it. Time out worked best for him. He had a few minutes in his room and he would usually calm himself down. Even if it takes a few weeks to work, just don't give in! good luck! And next year will be much better!
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S.M. answers from Modesto on October 24, 2006
No specific advice, but, I heard something that changed my thinking on discipline when my oldest son was a newborn. Elisa Morgan (MOPS president) said on a radio broadcast once, Moms, you need to remember that YOU are the first and most powerful example of women that your sons will ever see and experience. You have to make sure that he understands that "NO" means "NO" the First time! If you don't, you teach him to not respect you, and that girls don't really mean what they say. So when he is in the back seat of a car or some where else with a girl, and she says "No" - what will YOU have taught him that "NO" meant.
It is not an exact quote, but, it helps me to stay consistent now, almost 11 years later. because consistancy is THE KEY to any discipline. I have two of the most respectful, honoring little men that I have ever seen. Remember that you are raising a man, not a child. Do every thing to that end.
One more thing, "I have a hard time with discipline, partly because the few hours a day I have with him I want us to be happy,... " That statement really caught my eye. I want my kids to "like" me too, but, the reality is that we are not here for them to "like" and he is NOT going to be "happy" with you A LOT of the time ( we just enetered the teenage years over here!) It is your job to be his parent, not his friend. The friend part comes sooner than you think if you are his parent right now. And it will be so much greater if you raise him to be a honorable "man" not a child.... Good luck, we all need it, along with a lot of prayer!!!
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C.S. answers from Los Angeles on October 23, 2006
S., I suspect that your trying to get him to listen is tied to trying to get him to do something or not. Sometimes, they'll do something like hit you when you want them to just get their shoes on. The phrase "Use your words" became one of our household mantras.
There IS a secret weapon with boys, though. Ask me how I know this! I have 3 boys, ages 6, 9 & 16.
The "secret weapon" is competition. Its something that seems to almost be on a cellular level with boys. You can get sooo much more accomplished with a boy if you turn things into a game. The "winner" doesn't have to be more than the declared "winner," so don't think you have to start taking them to Toys R Us every week. In fact, that is a huge mistake.
The reward for winning can be something as simple as getting to pick where to sit at the table, whether they are going to have peas or corn for the dinner veggie, or some other thing that involves them making a choice and empowering them, NOT rewarding behavior with material things. That will set you up for a gigantic headache. Ask me how I know THAT.
You'd be amazed at what you can get away with. The trick is, the younger you start this game, the better. If you try this on an older child, they'll call you on it. They see through the game. But, a two or three year old will buy it hook, line and sinker.
So, if you want them to get their shoes on, for example, you stage a race. Who can get them on the fastest? Kid or mommie? If its picking up toys, then find 2 containers -- they can be a paper grocery sack or, my personal favorite, 2 laundry baskets -- and just say "Wanna see who can pick up toys the fastest? Let's race! Ready, set, go!" Make a good show of effort, but let the kid win. Then, go nuts! Make a BIG DEAL out of their winning the game.
You will begin to see a change after doing this only a few times. Believe me, he'll start listening to you more when you turn whatever it is you have been trying to get him to listen to you about into a game.
In the past, I've used time out's for hitting or biting. I've also used the tactic when talking to them of "That's just NOT allowed in our family." Also, "Don't let other people teach you how to behave. You know in your heart that hitting and biting are not right. I don't care what they do in other families, but in OUR family, we don't do that." In doing so, I think I've set some perameters for defining what we are as a family. What we believe in. I'm not a hugely religious person, but the basic philosophy with us is to be a good person. Be honest. Don't hurt other people. Hittin' and bitin' just don't fall into any of those categories.
I think the real change in OVERALL behavior came when I recognized the competition factor. Once I discovered how to utilize rather than tolerate it by creating excuses to reward good behavior, the good behavior soon just came naturally to them. At first, during the "training phase," they craved the kuddos from me and their dad. Then, they began to really take pride in their own inner voice guiding them to do the right thing, be helpful or kind. They began to self-reward. The result, from what I can see, is positive self-esteem.
Like it or not, this IS thinly veiled bribery. Its reward system behavior modification. But, remember, your best tool is applause. Your best tactic is empowerment. 3 year old's want to help. They want to have tasks that give them a sense of accomplishment. The key is, set them up. Stage little tasks and "races" and then praise and get excited about their success. Essentially, this tactic is similar to "noticing what they do right" and verbally acknowledging it to get more of the same.
When my kids were as young as two, I used to have him "help" by doing things as silly as fluffing the pillows on the couch. Only, I didn't make light of the task. Its training. I started him out with tiny tasks, then, as he got older, larger ones. The key was setting them up for a guaranteed success. It was totally manufactured and they never caught on. Then, I started working in the REAL stuff we needed to get done in life.
It doesn't matter if your family is you and one or ten kids or even with two parents, if you don't begin to plant the seeds of teamwork in your family life, you are setting yourself up for a lot more work as a parent than is really necessary AND you end up with a spoiled adult man. Do you really want your daughter-in-law to come to you later and say "Thanks a LOT, lady" when your son turns out to be a spoiled, incompetent, 30 year old "mamma's boy".
In our family we still do these races today! We use competition when setting the table, sorting laundry, sorting socks, putting cans of food away in the cupboard, putting away and sorting clean silverware in the drawer, picking up toys, teeth brushing, getting into the car, and more. My 16 year old even does some of these "races" with his brothers. Its pretty funny to see him use my tactics.
When you use the attention and positive rewards like a carrot on the end of a stick, you get more of the kind of behavior that brings the positive result. When you only punish the unwanted behavior, then you get more bad behavior. The reason is, they want your attention, ultimately. So, you choose which you want: helpful or not. Either way, they're going to do things to get your attention.
As a result of using this method, I have three pretty helpful, happy kids. Bad behavior from them has been rare, because making a big deal out what they do RIGHT has gotten me more of that kind of behavior. Bit by bit, the good behavior just started taking over. After a while, I couldn't remember the last time one of my kids acted up. Then, my KIDS started noticing other kids in public acting out. Now, they comment to me "Momma, what's WRONG with that kid? Why are they doing that?" That kind of behavior is so unusual to them now, even they can't fathom pulling it.
Now, the creative parenting part for you is, how can you tap into this natural boy-tendency toward competition to get your son to stop hitting and cooperate a little better with you? My game playing may not seem so on-target for you right now. But, believe me, it is. Its training. You'll see. And, it will begin to impact the other behaviors that are driving you nuts.
My suggestion is, set yourself up to win, not fail by using games and positive rewards (praise) way more than punishments for NOT doing what you need them to do. You'll also be setting your son up to win in life. I think you'll be amazed at the results!
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K.O. answers from Portland on October 23, 2006
Have you tried timeouts? I found that they are really effective for my 2 1/2 year old, we almost never have to use them. Just make sure that if you tell him he is going to get time out that you actually follow through. The consequences for his actions need to be consistent and occur right after the action. If you wait or don't always follow through then he won't learn to relation between the two events.
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A.Z. answers from San Diego on October 23, 2006
The most important thing is consistancy. I have a 4 year old that I wasn't consistent with and I'm paying the price. You must consistently say "no". Don't "let them get away" without disciplining them, because they REMEMBER. Time out for 3 minutes is the best idea. Children do feel more secure when you are consistent with what you say and do.
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R.L. answers from Provo on October 23, 2006
I have been a single parent for over 2 years now. From the time my son was 2 till nearly 5 in 3 months. He was use to daycare since his mom was in school. However he went thru what sounds like the same trauma when I moved him in to a better school. I'm not sure exactly when and where your son acts out but here was my experience.
Brayden (my son) started with throwing fits when dropping him off at school. He wanted to go to the shop with me every day. I made sure I left the house extra early so I could spend extra time with him at school before leaving. I slowly tapered the time back to only spending a minute with him and he is use to that, comfortable and most importantly HAPPY.
This wasn't just at school though, it started to come home also. He became a big butt head. He was cranky, ornery, and had to be like that while following me around the house while I'd be trying to do my domestic duties. This was easier for me then the school thing though because he responded faster. I made sure I included him in my chores and even made some up just for him. With the hitting I would tell him with a surprised expression that he was a good boy making bad choices. This is still a big part of my discipline today, I always ask him if he wants to make good choices of bad choices and he always sobs out a quiet "good choice?".
OK, one last note.... Maybe this would border on manipulation but..... I would ask him if he wants to be happy or sad (what kid doesn't want to be happy, right?). Of course he would say "happy". Then I would say, "are you ever happy when daddy is sad?" and he'd reply "no". Then I'd tell him that I am not happy when he is sad either and that out jobs should be to make each other happy. We can't make ourselves happy cause it doesn't work. We rely on the people around us to make us happy.
Some may say that is just a BLABLABLA to a little kid but my son responded to it when he was 3 as long as I took the time to stop what I was doing and look him in the eyes at his level and talk to him.
I hope this helps. This is obviously a shortened version. I'm not the most patient person in the world and neither is my son but it worked for us after a bit if head butting.
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K. answers from Anchorage on October 23, 2006
while I don't have a child in a daycare situation (my husband is a SAHD) I can give you advice on what has worked for us, embarking on our newly found 3 year old independent streak.
It is, just that... an independent streak. They are becoming their own people and feel very strongly that their opinion is the most valid in the home.
The latest with my daughter is screaming no at us, or telling us "DON'T DO THAT !" when we tell her a particular behavior is not acceptable. She usually follows our rebuttals with a complete meltdown and tantrum.
I tell her, that I am very sorry that she is so upset, and I do value her feelings, but xyz needs to be done (be it toys being put away, time for bed, she can't have that toy, etc.) but that if she is truly really upset, and she needs a few minutes to express her feelings and work through them, I understand. I generally at this point, encourage her to do so in her room (so I don't have to listen to the tirade LOL) but if she feels it's necessary to stay close by while she works through them, I don't push her away.
Basically... they are good kids, they are just battling their inner instincts to defy.. become their own people, yet at the same time, they so desperately seek our approval too. It's like a well choreographed ballet... finding the perfect balance.
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A.P. answers from Salt Lake City on October 13, 2007
Kudos to you for doing it all! That alone is a feat. The problem I think here is that its a power struggle. If he thinks he can get away with talking to you rudely, he will. Its important that he knows he CANNOT talk to you that way and needs to be polite. The other thing is that it needs to be a joint effort. If the sitter is letting him talk to her/him that way, then he will think he can talk to anyone that way. Sit down with your sitter and discuss discipline so that it doesn't vary too much.
When you do discipline him make sure he understands WHY he's in trouble, and that if he continues to talk to you that way, he'll be in the same position over and over. I think that once he grasps that talking back = time out, he'll stop. And when he's happy, everyone is happy. You might not enjoy it at first because he'll be mad, but eventually it'll settle down and you'll enjoy your time more!
Its important to remember kids need limits and structure and him talking back to you is probably him testing his limits. You are the grown up and he wants you to give him rules! It also is part power struggle I think so don't let him boss YOU around. :D