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My Son Is a Bully

I am in desperate need of discipline strategies. My 2 1/2 year old son is very mean. We take my 3yo to preschool and my 2yo will hit the other kids. We go to group outings and he starts spitting and shoving the instant we get there. I repeatedly get to his level and explain how that is unacceptable. If we are someplace fun I take him home right away. At preschool I try to make him sit on the floor right by me until my son is in. Nothing seems to get him to change his behavior. I spend a lot of time with him playing games, reading, napping, talking, etc. so it doesn't seem like it is an attention thing. His older brother can be rough on him but I try to keep that from happening as well and he gives it to his older brother too. Any tricks that will help are appreciated.

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I would think it would be too much stimulation for him...if that is how he acts, really only when he gets around others...

when my son has been in school all day long and we pick him up at night, he saves it for us...he is cranky almost everyday and requires 'alone time' or 'unwind time' by himself every day otherwise he will yell at us or just 'hate' everything...

I used to be the same way, still am when I get home from work but I cannot just start throwing things...

you could talk to him and tell him that you know it is going to be pretty busy for a little bit and that you won't be there long...yada yada just something so he knows you understand he is taking too much in...

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well...the good news is that this behavior has nothing to do with your parenting and is probably not an indication of things to come.....my 2 year old girl is doing the same thing....i'm always pointing out how friend in her books are gentle with their hands....so far the biggest improvements i've seen are these two things:

1...i taught her words for when she's mad or i verbalize her frustration for her (i can tell you're really mad, or i can tell you wanted to play with that toy or i can tell you need your space)

2. i litteraly take her hand and stop her hitting me and firmly guide her to stoke my face for my arm and say....i like it when you use your hands to be nice....

i've recently read in a book: firm but loving....firm but loving...and not to say things too much...to take action more...i have to get up and go stop her instead of telling her to stop something....

well...that's what i'm trying today anyway....as you know....this may not work tomorrow...but you are not alone out there! good luck mama

I just wanted to second what Inga told you. I would also recommend Mary Kurcinka's book and an OT evaluation for sensory issues. I have two spirited boys, the younger of which was aggressive like your son. Both of my boys ended up going through OT for sensory issues. I've read several of Mary Kurcinka's books and have even taken classes from her. She also has a website called parentchildhelp.com. Good luck--I know what it's like. I always wondered how other moms were able to have playground conversations because I had to be constantly watching my son. I felt left out and judged. He is now 9 and doing very well in school, no aggression issues there (his teachers love him). We are still dealing with some of the sensory issues, he can be aggressive with his brother and we are working on his yelling, but the OT and hard work have paid off.

I would think it would be too much stimulation for him...if that is how he acts, really only when he gets around others...

when my son has been in school all day long and we pick him up at night, he saves it for us...he is cranky almost everyday and requires 'alone time' or 'unwind time' by himself every day otherwise he will yell at us or just 'hate' everything...

I used to be the same way, still am when I get home from work but I cannot just start throwing things...

you could talk to him and tell him that you know it is going to be pretty busy for a little bit and that you won't be there long...yada yada just something so he knows you understand he is taking too much in...

Your son may not be a bully at all.

Try reading these two books:
The Out-of-Sync child

and
The Out-of-Sync Child Has Fun

for ideas and coping strategies.

Hi, A.! I only have one child, and so I do not have a wealth of experience. But I'm reading a book right now called "Raising Your Spirited Child" by Mary Sheedy Kurcinka. Something I just read about last night is that children who can't stop an undesirable activity--such as hitting and not being able to stop, continuing to run to danger (a pool, street, etc), etc--may benefit from occupational therapy. Your son may be very sensitive to noise, colors, bright lights, etc., and over-stimulated by his surroundings, especially at your older son's preschool, where there are, I assume, lots of children running around, lots of activities, different toys, etc. He may not know how to cope with the over-stimulation, and uses the only means he knows to process the sensory overload. It might help if you were able to bring your 3 year old to school a little bit earlier, before all the other children arrive, so your 2 year old isn't overwhelmed by so many older children who are so active. Perhaps he wants to participate just like his older brother, but doesn't know how to be involved in an appropriate manner, and uses the only means he knows to get noticed, if he is not talking as well as your 3 year old. (I'm making a lot of assumptions here--please forgive me if I am totally off base!)

It sounds like your little man is a very spirited individual! :) Kurcinka's book has been really helpful with understanding my spirited little boy. It's giving me insight into why he has such a hard time following directions and gives me skills to help parent him so he can be more successful interacting with people and his surroundings in an age-appropriate way. I just checked out the book from our library, and I know they have it at Barnes and Noble. And if you try some of the things she recommends (I would particularly look at the chapter on "Sensitivity"), and they do not seem to be helping, then I would talk to your doctor about recommendations for an OT.

Good luck with your little man, and God bless!

MAybe the boys are at war more than you know and he is picking up bad behaviors and just carrying them further due to his age. Also what is he watching on tv? he may be trying to re enact that. Look at environmental factors and what you can change before you get freaked out about other issues. If changing what he sees and is exposed to doesn't work then take him to a dr. If a child is exposed to violent tv, games, and play they are more likely to act out. And at 2-3 that includes Spiderman, Batman, Transformers.....

Hi A. -- I didn't have to deal with bullying, but what I did for "uncivilized behavior" might help because it gives some of the responsibility for discipline to the perpetrator.

When one or both of my kids would misbehave I'd say, "Okay, you have to have a 5-minute timeout as punishment for what you did, and when the time is up you can rejoin us IF you think you can be civilized and remember that each one of us is a human being just like you. When the 5 minutes are up, if you don't think you can do that, tell me and we'll figure out how much additional time I should set the timer for. And if you say you can be civilized and you rejoin us but it turns out that you can't be civilized yet, of course we'll have to start all over again, but with a 6-minute time out, and that would make both of us sad." Then I would put a kitchen chair in the hall and sit them so they were facing right into the wall -- no being sent to their room where they could play, etc -- and I'd set the timer for 5 minutes. (Then they couldn't think I was stretching the time out, etc.) Always when that first 5-minute bell rang they thought they could be civilized, and they always
were! And they knew that if they hadn't been successful they'd start all over again (but with the 6 minutes out) because I never made a threat I wasn't prepared to carry out.

I'm not sure how I'd apply this in the outside world but I do know I'd keep a timer in the glove compartment! I guess at someone else's house, daycare, etc, I'd do it like at home with a chair facing a blank wall. In a public place, I think I would have put the child in the back seat of the car, facing the rear. (Guess I'd put a good trashy paperback in the glove compartment too, to amuse myself while I monitored the back seat.) What I did when driving was pull over immediately -- even on the interstate -- and go through the routine, and I'd say "If you're late for soccer, you'll have to tell the coach why" or "If we miss the start of the movie, we'll know whose responsibility that is."

As I write this it occurs to me that I don't think my children were as young as two when I started this, but it worked at three. I wish you the very best, for your sake, but especially for your child's sake, because the person who is most damaged by the bullying is always the bully, and we don't want that!

Onward and upward! L.

Oh! be sure when his brother is involved that he gets the same time out and the same options at the end of the original 5 minutes!

My son went through the same thing for about 6 months at exactly the same age. I completely sympathize with you. It's rough, really really rough. He did eventually outgrow it (he's 4 now) but it was really hard when he was in that phase. I still went to playdates, outings, etc but I limited it to 2 hours and told him that we would be ther exactly 2 hours.

My little one only hit babies (which I think is worse) so I would watch him and if I sat his arm about to go up, I'd run over and hold it and tell him no and then take him away for 2 mins. (This went on a lot). Then I also told him that whenever he felt bad and wanted to hit, he was to come over and let me know and we would cuddle and do hugs. I also gave him an incentive. Since he LOVED stickers, if he could go thru a 2 hr outing without hitting (or any other disciplinary issues), then he would get a treat: he woudl be taken to michael's or joann's and allowed to pick one set of stickers. It took about 6 months but it did resolve itself. Yes, I did take him to the pediatrician as well to make sure there were no other issues as well and discussed it with the dr (who had 4 boys of his own). Good luck!

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