L.B. asks from Orinda, CA on October 15, 2009
My 7 Year Old Is Afraid of Bowel Movement Due to Pain... Not Constipated.
Hi ladies - I am at a loss and would love to hear someone's input if they have experienced this. I apologize for the poop details in advance! My 7 year old boy poops every 3 days or so. The consistency of his poop is and has always been fine... he is not constipated. He has always (since birth) had a big round belly and it is so apparent when he needs to go... his belly becomes a ball. When he was potty training he refused to poop on the potty for ages and insisted on a diaper until he was well over 3. He would run around getting worked up until he couldn't hold it any longer. Since then pooping had become a little easier... every 3 days as I have said... and he would complain of it hurting right at the moment the poop would come out sometimes, but eventually he would relax enough for it to come out. He would then be on the potty for ages doing an enormous, soft, poop. I have tried to encourage him to poop more regularly than every 3 days but it is extremely hard to control someone else's bm's! However, more recently he is complaining of too much pain in the rectum (not abdominal) and he is refusing to let it out due to how much it is going to hurt. Believe me I have tried explaining that the longer he holds it the more painful it will be. I have also given him fiber to try and help it come out. He does not have haemerrhoids (sp?) or anal fissures - it seems to be right in the rectum. I cannot believe he can hold it much longer, but he is. How can I help him? Is this medical, in your experience, or psychological? I remember Pyschology 101 learning about being anal retentive... and he fits most of those symptoms... control freakish etc... I would so love to help him without making this "an issue". I will be calling the doctor in the morning, but hoping to have something to read before then. Thanks so much in advance.
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Thank you all so much for all the advice/feedback. We have an appointment with the doctor soon and hopefully will begin to understand. Would you believe I bribed him with the promise of a DS for Christmas if he would poo tonight and he went ahead and performed. Psychological? I think so. Control? I think so. However, it is good to have got it out of him and we were going to buy him a DS for Christmas anyway! For now it's plenty more fiber, water, and magnesium and no more bribing! Thanks again.
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C.P. answers from Sacramento on October 16, 2009
The problem could be a little bit of psychological and medical. It definatly should be addressed with the doctor. Maybe his controll issues have caused a true medical problem. Good luck! All I can suggest is adding more fiber and maybe a fiber suplament to help getting the going started without his being able to stop it.
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M.C. answers from San Francisco on October 16, 2009
Hi L.,
My son had a similar problem. There was not pain but sometimes he went for 6 days without pooping. His pediatrician recommended mineral oil, that way he was not able to hold it as much. (Check with your doctor). His poops were huge!!! with capital H. The would even plug the toilet!! We were able to tell when he was ready to go but he will say no, I don't have to. Other things, like playing, were more important. He is now 13 and everything is better but he still goes every other day. Hope this helps.
W.W. answers from Washington DC on October 16, 2009
When my girls had problems the doctor put them on polyethelyene glycol for a few weeks until they "unlearned" any bad habits of holding poop and were "retrained" to be regular. Definitely get to the doctor.
M.J. answers from Sacramento on October 16, 2009
This is a medical condition called encopresis. Look it up through Google and you will find a lot of resources. Call his pediatrician's office ASAP for an appt. You can get the official diagnosis and help from the doctor on resolving the problem (it's a combo of psychological and medical problem). The initial strategy is usually trying mineral oil in beverages, adding fiber supplements, using a suppository and trying to get your child on a daily poop schedule.
Our son has this condition and it's one that unfortunately won't resolve itself quickly. We've been dealing with it for a couple years off and on. However, now that our son goes daily, it's not a big issue ... he just goes when he's told (right before bathtime) and it doesn't hurt anymore so he's not afraid.
Good luck! Please do take this seriously and talk to the doctor about encopresis.
C.P. answers from Sacramento on October 16, 2009
The problem could be a little bit of psychological and medical. It definatly should be addressed with the doctor. Maybe his controll issues have caused a true medical problem. Good luck! All I can suggest is adding more fiber and maybe a fiber suplament to help getting the going started without his being able to stop it.
G.B. answers from San Francisco on October 15, 2009
I have never had a constipation problem -until now that I am on antibiotics!
I couldn't go in the morning, and it was painful. I took a couple large glasses of the V8 veg/fruit juice noni berry in the morning and by the afternoon I was doing a huge amount of softer poo. I was thinking.. for myself, If I bought a juicer it might help. I do know apple juice can give people very soft bm's and can even cause the runs!
Even tho your son doesn't have hard poop, he can still have a form of constipation. A huge amount of softer poops mean that the colon and intestine were quite full. Usually those come behind a harder dried stool that is blocking things up.
The other thing I would suggest is magnesium citrate. Maybe you can get it in a powder, and maybe put it in some juice. An adult dose is 200 Ml. I would take it at night because it helps you sleep and relax.
Magnesium deficiency will cause constipation, nervousness, anxiety, hyperactivity, ect. Magnesium will help with normalizing tension of the colon walls and draws water to the colon, relieving backup. It is not habit forming.
Leaning way forward while trying to go may help too.
I think if you add magnesium to his diet and some juice, you will see him going more often than every three days and feeling much better.
H.A. answers from San Francisco on October 16, 2009
Hi there,
Poor things (you and your son!). I really don't have any specific suggestions, but I'd call the doctor for sure. Maybe even a specialist if you can.
I read once here on Mamasource about a woman who had a painful situation with a tear in her rectum muscles or something (internal, not anal fissures). It sounded quite excruciating. Could be that?
And are you sure there are no anal fissures? My little one (she's just 2) has had them and I think the problem was a dairy allergy (she didn't have any other allergy symptoms). According to the gastroenteritis, the diary irritated the skin on her little anus when the poops came out, which caused her to hold her poops and then get constipated and then get the fissures. But maybe he's having pain from the skin being irritated even if the poops are soft?
I would guess it is physical instead of psychological if he is in pain. Even if it is psychological, I would be really patient and attentive, as you are already being. Poor thing!
Hope you get to the bottom of it (oops! no pun intended).
H.
M.D. answers from San Francisco on October 16, 2009
Oh, I feel for him. I had a similar problem myself when I was that age or a little older. Had to have an enema, which was most unpleasant.
What worked when my kids were younger was mandarin oranges (canned). I would mainly make sure that he has plenty of fiber and water to make it easier. I hope the other suggestions help as well.
B.K. answers from San Francisco on October 16, 2009
Hi L..I have a 2 year old boy and 4 year old girl. Getting enough fiber, fluids and exercise are my priorities every day especially for my 2 year old boy. Cian started potty training at the young age of 15 months. He loved to poop on the potty but he strained and when he had the verbal skills would tell me it hurt. Sometime his poop would be a bit bloody and his little tummy would be large and hard. What helps Cian the most is a lot of fluid during the day, not too mcuh dairy, as much fiber as possible as well as exercise. I also give him Fibergummies which you can buy at Walgreens. Also yogurts such as danactive or avitiva seems to help keep Cian regular. If your boy is only going every 3 days that is constipation in my book!Probably since he is 7 now it is probably on his mind how much pain he is going to feel if he lets the poop out.Have you talked with his doctor about this problem lately? I wish you luck.
B.
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