M.S. asks from Ben Lomond, CA on October 03, 2008
My 3 Year Old Is Torturing Our Kittens. Help!
My active and very smart 3 year old daughter goes through waves of being a total angel and a total nightmare. She is going through a tough phase and she is really taking it out on our cats. We got them 2 months ago and I expected to go through transition while getting used to having them but it has been two months and my daughter will not let up. She constantly chases them, screams in there face, drags them, sits on them, carries them carelessly, locks them in her room, and the worst is when she kicks them every time they walk by her. It is like she is so desperate for the cats attention. She has always been moody, but she has never been violent. She is actually a very sweet and sensitive child. I have tried modeling how to treat them, we have had endless talks, I have turned it around and asked her how she would like it if someone chased, kicked, screamed at her. We talk about how it is our job to raise them and keep them safe. She seems to get it and then five minutes later, I see her whacking one with a pillow. She is constantly on a time-out because of this. I have taken away things that she loves. I don't know what to do and I am almost ready to find them (the cats :)) a new home because this is causing so much stress in our home. Any advice? Thanks!
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J.H. answers from Sacramento on October 04, 2008
Have you read siblings without rivalry? It teaches parents to give the attention to the victim rather than the abuser. We, as parents, unintentionally provide attention toward negative behavior, thereby enforcing this type of attention seeking.
C.D. answers from Sacramento on October 04, 2008
I would think she is just not at all ready to have pets. I would find the cats a new home and try some animals later. 3 years old is still a bit young, as she is needing to be the center of attention.
Luck,
C.
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A.U. answers from San Francisco on October 03, 2008
M.,
I'm sorry for your tough situation! I'm also sorry, but I have to disagree with the previous response. There is NOTHING normal about a 3 year old girl repeatedly and intentionally hurting an animal. Especially a defenseless and (I assume) cute one like a kitten. Reading your post set off huge red flags for me and made me want to cry! She is old enough to know better, and if you've repeatedly told her no, modeled the correct behaviour and disciplined her for it, then she is doing it on purpose. It may be that she's trying to get your attention, or acting out because of another more serious behavior problem. But you have to remove the cats from the situaion ASAP before she does serious harm to one of them! If you call your local ASPCA or animal shelter, they should be able to help you find a temporary foster home situation for the kittens or something. Then I suggest you have her talk to a counselor to find out why she would do this. Good luck!
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K.L. answers from Redding on October 04, 2008
I'd say she's not ready for pets in the home and you should give the cats away. As much as we shouldn't think of pets as disposable, it is a much better alternative than letting your daughter torture them. She can learn the lesson of "gentle" some other way without putting live animals in danger. I'd also be watching her carefully around her baby brother as she might try transfering her behavior to him once the kittens are gone. I read your letter to my husband and asked him what he thought. He saw this in a different way and had this take on the situation. He feels this is more a sibling rivalry issue since the brother came along. She maybe has enough compassion and knows not to hurt him, but is gealous of the time you spend taking care of him so she has gone after the next smallest thing she can find (the cats). Pretty good obsevation from a guy if you ask me, Hope things smooth out for you and your family soon. (o:
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L.N. answers from San Francisco on October 05, 2008
Hello M.,
What a difficult, awful situation to be in. I'll try and add a few perspectives. I just finished writing my master's thesis on how to use positive discipline techniques to help small children get along with cats. No joke! Pretty relevant. I did focus on two year-olds, and I know that three year olds are a whole different ball of wax (my daughter is still two). However, I'll give it a shot. I'm also happy to send you a copy of my thesis, and you can read the relevant portions for a LOT more detail. My email is ____@____.com.
I think that unless you're willing to devote a LOT of time and energy to solving this problem, you should indeed try to find another home for the cats. The younger the cats are, the easier it will be to find a home for them. So if your gut is telling you that the right thing to do is find them another home or take them to a shelter, by all means do it soon.
I also agree that getting your daughter some addition support/evaluation/etc. is a good idea. Her behavior does seem extreme, but not out of the bounds of ordinary for small kids.
It is key that you supervise her when she's around the cats. I know that's probably next to impossible with another little one around, but this is what you need to do until the behavior is changed. One way to accomplish that is to separate your daughter from the cats by having them in a safe place with everything they need (food, water, litter, toys, resting place, etc.).
Personally, I do not recommend spanking her when she does the wrong thing to the cats. I may be dead wrong, but my sense is that at best it will create a scenario where she'll behave when your present but really socks it to them if no one is watching. She very well might really seek out opportunities where she can catch them alone. Again, supervision, supervision, supervision.
The emphasis of my thesis was on telling small children exactly what to do with cats, as opposed to focusing on what they should not do. Very specific language about petting, how to pet, where, and with constant supervision. Also about creating other habits of care that can substitute for the negative attention, i.e. giving them food every day, and (if she can handle this) even hand feeding them dry food.
I would also add that it really sounds to me like your daughter is feeling like the situation is out of control, and she's looking for control over the cats. At least with my daughter, even though most of her problem behaviors have cleared up, she still likes to chase them sometimes or make a loud noise because she likes the power of the cause and effect that's created by her actions. Channeling this desire for power and influence into something positive (feeding them, brushing them) might help.
There's lots more I could say. Anyone reading this is welcome to email at the address above. However, my sense is that you're probably dealing with more than you can handle and you need to simplify the situation. Having two kittens and a baby is a ton. My best wishes to you in this very hard situation.
L.
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N.P. answers from San Francisco on October 05, 2008
Hi M. -
We did not, fortunately, have the same exact experience with our children. However, there's been a lot of sibling rivalry between our girls (who are 2 years apart)with our older daughter torturing our younger daughter, even as early as when the younger was just a few months old. After going thru my own experience, as well as talking to other moms re: similar experiences to yours, I would guess that your 3-year old is actually torturing your kittens in place of her younger sibling. Kids, even if very sweet, get VERY JEALOUS of younger siblings--jealousy is a very powerful emotion which can turn little angels into temporary monsters. My suggestion is that you and your husband take turns giving your 3-year old as much extra attention as possible. I know it's hard to give a lot of extra attention when you have a baby, but if you could squeeze in even an extra 5 - 10 minutes here and there during the day (and evening, if/when your husband gets home) when the baby is asleep or otherwise safe & occupied, I think you'll find an improvement in your 3-year old's behavior towards the kittens within a week or so. Good luck! N. p.s. - your daughter may also be jealous of the kittens too if you and/or your husband coo a lot over them too--after all, kittens are cute, so maybe she's feeling that even more of the spotlight is no longer on her than even after the baby was born. Also, keep in mind that you can't really reason with 3-year olds, even if they are really bright.
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C.B. answers from San Francisco on October 04, 2008
I hate to say it, but I think you should get rid of the cats. It is clear that your daughter is not ready for a pet and the poor cats are suffering. They are animals and will only put up with so much. I would suggest finding them a new home before they decide to fight back!
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K.G. answers from San Francisco on October 04, 2008
I agree with Jessica M, she needs a good swat on her butt. I don't know when spankings went out of style, but I got them when I was a kid, and I learned, and I didn't grow up to be violent. My kids have had them, when they do dangerous things. It's not a regular thing in our house, becuase they learn and don't want to have another one. Spankings are always done calmly, not in anger and the kids are giving a hug and a kiss after. It's never a beating, it's a couple of swats on the butt and it's over, but IT WORKS!!!
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J.H. answers from Sacramento on October 04, 2008
I'm sorry, I haven't read all of the advice, but I had to express this immediately. Get new homes for the kittens before she accidentally kills one of them. She is too young for kittens! They are fragile and don't yet know how to defend themselves. I say this from experience, because I grew up on a small farm with lots of animals, and I can remember squeezing a kitten to death.
She is not too young for a pet, but I would recommend an adult dog or cat that is already socialized with children. Having her learn how to treat an animal is possible at her age, but you need an animal that can take a child with a little bit of extra zeal.
We have lots of animals with our son (almost 3yo). We had dogs, cats, rabbits and birds all before he arrived. He interacts with the dogs and is learning how to use his "kind and gentle" hands. The cat doesn't think much about him he has been scratched a few times, so he leaves the cat alone. Same goes for the rabbit. He watches the birds, but pretty much leaves them alone.
You could consider some sort of animal that is caged like a bird or hamster. This way she gets the taking care of part, but has boundaries to the interaction.
Good luck.
J.
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N.P. answers from Modesto on October 04, 2008
Hi M.,
Especially when a child is young, I always think (at least thought) it's a good idea to introduce our children to some sort of pet. It can be their "practice" on how to treat others with respect. Does she treat other children the same way as the kittens? If her behavior is saved only for the kittens, then the problem is coming from lack of punishement for her behavior. However, if she treats everything and everybody like this, then your daughter may have a behavioral problem, and you should seek help for her ASAP, and get her ready before kindergarten :o)
You were very clear about explaining what/how your daughter tortures your kittens, however, you didn't mention what punishment she receives EACH AND EVERY TIME she does something to these poor, precious kittens. For your daughter to do this on a regular basis, I would have to assume that there isn't a "consistent punishment attached to the crime." Because you may say "stop that...." every other time, she thinks it's "OK" to keep doing it. If you are a SAHM, then your focus should be on this issue over anything else-stop the laundry, the dishes, the errands...your house will still stand for a couple of days until you get your daughter back on track. DO NOT LEAVE HER ALONE WITH THOSE KITTENS!!!
If you intend on keeping these kittens, then she needs to learn that you mean business! If you cannot seem to be consistent with her to STOP TORTURING those kittens, then she needs them to be taken away!!! 3 chances, and it's over!
Now, I notice that you have a 1 year old boy. I would expect these behaviors from him at his age, however, even a 1 year old learns the difference between right and wrong.
I think it's good that you wrote in, M.. You do need some emotional support on this situation. We are here for you, too!
Good Luck!
:o) N.
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