K.G. asks from Naples, ME on March 17, 2010
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Anyone else have a terrible relationship with their MIL? We have tried to estrange ourselves from my husband's mother because of how verbally abusive, manipulative and controlling she has been to him all his life and now is to both of us. She is still trying to contact our son through us(who is just barley one yr old, so he has no idea who she is). It makes me crazy that she feels she can be abusive to us and say whatever hurtful things she wants, but she thinks she still has a "right" to our son. Have any of you experienced this? How did you handle it? We've tried defending ourselves, tried ignoring, she just keeps at it. We just want to live our lives. Thoughts? Thanks SO much!
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Thanks SO much for all the input, Mamas. At the very least it's nice to know we're not alone. Though our case is definitely extreme. Unfortunately therapy isn't an option. My husband went as a teenager and she wouldn't go with him saying "you're the one with the problem"... Could you IMAGINE saying that to your kid? Anyway, he and we have since been told by other counselors that estrangement might be the best bet. I just don't think either of us wanted to believe we had to do that to make it work. But we do. And as long as we stay united on this, and I do everything I can to support and help him through, I think we'll be better off in the long run, and I feel deep in my heart that our son will be better off as well. She has never brought any good to my husband or to us. So we have no reason to believe it will be any different with our son. Anyway, thanks again for all the thoughts and support! And good luck to the rest of you fighting the MIL battle! Some are just a nuisance, while others go for the throat!! : )
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M.G. answers from Chicago on March 17, 2010
I would treat her like a child playing with my kids. If you can't behave and act like a human you aren't allowed at my house. We treat each other with respect and if you don't want to be part of that then leave.
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I.G. answers from Seattle on March 17, 2010
Can you go to counseling with her? I think it would be very sad if your children (and your husband for that matter) cannot have a relationship with her.
Of course if she is not willing, you need to do what you have to do to protect your family - that includes screening your calls and simply let it go to voicemail when she calls.
I don't know about "grandparent laws" but I believe they are usually only an issue in cases of divorce/death of a parent - not when both parents agree to have no contact to the grandparent.
Good luck!
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A.F. answers from St. Cloud on March 17, 2010
Hi K.! I agree with Ina. We had to go to counseling with my MIL and it really helped. We just went to our pastor and he was compassionate to both sides and helped us establish some boundaries. Sometimes hashing it all out in a safe place is the best thing.
Also, Grandparents have no rights. They have privleges and she has definitely abused hers.
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J.C. answers from Chicago on March 17, 2010
If you want to try to give her one more try this would be what I would do:
Tell her that you both are on the verge of cutting off all ties with her & are willing to give her one more chance. My condition would be that for 6 months, maybe 2 times per month, for 30 min to 1 hour, meet her at a public place. Let her know you will up and leave without hesitation the moment she gets ignorant with either of you. This will show her you are serious & this gives her the opportunity to change her behavior. You probably will have to get up & leave several times but she will see you mean business. This is like what a lot of people do with their children in a store. If the child throws a tantrum you just take them out of the store & they get the hint after a few times & eventually have an understanding of expectations.
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S.M. answers from Casper on March 17, 2010
I've had issues with my MIL also. She thought I was crazy and tried to 'fix' me when we first got married. I didn't take kindly to her ripping the sheets off the bed while I was sleeping, telling my husband to take the lock off my door, and later trying to take my son home when I explicitly told her not to. Luckily we get along now, but if I think about it too much I can really get upset.
It is good that you seem to be united in wanting to get away from her. On one level, you might explain to her that she can only see her grandson if she quits the behavior that is so offensive. Write her a letter and explain that you don't want your son to grow up watching his parents be manipulated by a strange woman. If she does come over or call, you have the right to ask her to leave or not call again. It's time for you to decide how important this issue is, and how far you will go to protect yourselves.Video cameras and other recording devices may be your friends here also.
Another solution is to move away, change phone numbers and don't leave an address. This is drastic, but it may help you to achieve a healthy marriage. If this appeals to you, pick a place where you would love to raise your son.
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S.H. answers from Honolulu on March 17, 2010
My friend, has a MIL like that. Put it this way... NONE of her sons like her, her husband does not like her but has turned into her doormat, and the neighbors don't like her either.
Anyway, my friend, after trying to put up with/manage/get along with/sympathize with and trying a HOST of things... finally decided.. that they had to dis-own her. Yep.
Her Husband agreed and had no problem with that. So, she and Hubby... even though MIL lives not too far away... has dis-owned her.
THEY are much much happier now.
They cut her off.
That was the only way. They had tried all kinds of methods, for like 2-3 years. All it did was make their lives hell... because MIL is a total toxic witch. Literally. And toxic people like that... poisons everyone.
Why become mentally-ill and miserable... because of a toxic relative?
Toxic people have a way of making you ill too.
Anyway, that was their decision for their lives, and they do not regret it.
All the best,
Susan
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L.A. answers from Reno on March 17, 2010
I'd simply write her a letter. Detail specifically which behaviors ( give examples) that you don't like and then tell her you have no intention of exposing your child to this and you are asking her never to contact you again. Make it clear that if she contacts you in any way you will file for a restraining order. Write down a list of what she has done and when. If she tries to contact you and is abusive try to tape it or at least document it and then go get a restraining order. Get this woman out of your life!
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T.V. answers from San Francisco on March 17, 2010
K.,
Many women have terrible relationships with their husband’s mother. This usually makes life most difficult for the husband because deep down most men love their mother. (Even if she’s a total B).
In your case, if you and your husband truly want to sever ties with his mother it may mean that you will be severing ties with the rest of the family. (Maybe not if she is abusive to all concerned.)
The best thing to do is to move a long distance away and not provide an address, phone, email etc. If this is not practical, let her know in writing that you want nothing to do with her and if she continues to harass your family, you will obtain a restraining order. Your husband should be the one to do this because of the lack of attachment and respect between you and your husband’s mother.
If your husband doesn’t sign on to this 100%, perhaps there can be an arrangement where he takes the baby to see grandma a couple of times a month.
Bottom line, you really do marry into the “whole family”. Unhappily, most people are blinded by love and don’t take the time to see what they might be getting in to.
Blessings…..
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