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Looking for Punishment Advice....

My soon to be 14 year old niece that I raise recently stayed out all night without asking or telling anyone where she would be. She had went to the movies with a couple of friends and one of their mothers were supposed to bring her home. I get up around 4:45 every morning so I go to bed pretty early. So I was asleep when she was supposed to be home and I didn't know she didn't come home until the morning. When I got up that morning I called her friends that she was with looking for her and they told me that she told them I was picking her up and left them at the movies. So I franticly called every one of her friends I could get a hold of to find out if they had heard from her and no one had. I was at my wits end and worried sick! My next step was to call the cops and report her missing. Then around 9:00 AM she called me and said that she had stayed at another friends house because she didn't have a ride. I asked why she didn't call and she just said she did't think about it. Well needless to say I finally got her home and she looked like she hadn't slept. I grounded her and will not let her go anywhere, talk on the phone or get on the computer. This is not her first teenage mix up either. This is just another to the list that she's done. Usually I let her get ungrounded for good behavor but this time I told her no way is that going to happen. Well her birthday is coming up and I told her she wasn't getting party because of this. Her brother is telling me that it's not right for me to take her birthday away. What would you do? Have any of you gone through this? It is very hard for me because I am a single mother and take care of my mom and we see things differently. I don't know how to get her back in line and to get her to stop being such a risk taker. I don't want her to get hurt or turn out to be a bad person. She has a lot to offer and tends not to see it some times. She does take care of herself but this stuff seems to keep happening.

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First of all I want to thank all of you for all your advise and would love to keep it coming. I think that I'm going to just let her have a small party at home with the family, which she doesn't believe I will do this and continues to make plans when she is at school.

Anyway I wanted to update all of you on what is going on in the past few days.... I have since found out that she was drinking and with 4 guys and supposed 1 girl (all of which I knew none of them). She says she spent the biggest part of the night throwing up and she had a heck of a hang over when she came home. This is her 3rd adventure that I know of her drinking away from home. She is only 13 (14 in a week) and she thinks "it's okay" for her to drink. I don't drink much at all (I haven't had a drink since August, it's a couple times a year I might have one drink) and my mother never drinks. There isn't acohol in the house, because after her first drinking adventure I got rid of it and haven't ever brought it back in. So this made me even more scared. The doctor says she hasn't had sex so that was a relief although I'm scared that she would had the situation been right. Well her drug addict, in and out of jail, crazy, and a million other things father and mother decided to buy her a cell phone and not listen to me about it. And I caught her text messaging until like 11:15 or so on a school night. Needless to say she doesn't have the phone any more and hates me for taking it. But she knows on top of being grounded she isn't allowed to be up that late anyway. And the next day she faked being extremely sick so she could stay home and sleep. She has snuck the phone out of my room and used it. And I had agreed to let her best friend stay the weekend with us while her parents were out of town before my neice had gotten grounded and her parents had no other place for her to go so she is here this weekend. I feel like nothing is getting through to my neice still. She doesn't take me serious about anything. She has a bad mouth and it's crazy!

I also wanted to give you a little back ground that I didn't before... I want to tell you about when she got drunk her 2nd time (that I know of). Her old best friend's mother took her and 2 guys out driving around and let them drink. And let them stay at her house without the other girl even there. Of course I was talking to the mother and she was lieing about the entire thing! But long story short I turned the mother in and lots of other things have came out of it. I found out that many of the parents in our community allow their kids and friends to drink, while they are at home with them. And they allow boys to stay the night as well. This is not okay with me and my neice is not allowed around those houses (well the ones that they parents admit it). So after all this happened one of my neices friend's got raped. She had another friend get pregnant and now has a kid talk to her (she's in the 9th grade). And I had her sit down and listen to her about how much it's changed her life and so on. I thought it was affecting her but I was wrong. Then another friend of my neices had to go to the local Youth Bridge, and is still in there, but I had him talk to her about how bad it was and how he wished he never done the things he did (things like she is doing now). And she has toured the local jail, nothing... didn't phase her. Her parents have been in and out of jail her entire life because of drugs, acohol, and crimes, they have had several talks with her. But yet she says to me this won't happen to me. I know how to handle myself and if some guy comes after me he won't get me. And she says that her friends aren't like that, they would never rape anyone. I told her that she is crazy for thinking that. And that acohol will make people do things, including herself, that even they think they wouldn't do. Still she just acts like it's nothing. I'm totally lost and feel like I've lost her.

I'm at the point where I am really thinking of moving out of the area. Due to her and her brothers actions I think it would be good for a fresh start and for them nto to know anyone or their surroundings. I have also wanted to move out of the area for a long time but didn't for their sake.

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Please oh Please do not take her birthday away, you may downsize the party or extend the grounding after her birthday, my Dad took my 13th birthday away because I did not loosed 10 pounds, he gave me a month to do it and I only lost 7 , the point to this story is......I have never forgotten that and Im almost 40, but you do need to get it into her head that she needs to learn responsibilty.
There are so many sickos out there. She is a teenager and she will need to work her butt off to get her party. JMO

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let me know how this turns out please, this is my worst fear- i have a 4 yr old, but i was one of these trouble children and nothing made me stop, i'm scared about my life 10 yrs from now

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M., God is really using you. Your Mother and the children are so fortunate to have you to take care of them. They should be so grateful that they never put you under any more pressure or worry you but unfortunately they can't see that just yet. I would just have a little cake and present at home. Sounds like she may be headed down what could be dangerous roads if you don't be firm with her. Just let her know you love her so much you have to know where she is and that she should never leave one place without letting you know where she is going or without getting your permission to leave and go to another place. It is too dangerous these days. Too many things can go wrong. You will have to set a certain time that she has to be home by and it can't be so late that you won't be awake. Because you need to be able to talk with her and make sure everything is o.k. every time she comes in. If that doesn't work you may need to try to get some counseling for her. God bless you. You really have too much on you for your age.

Hello,
Of course it is your decision and you know your niece more than anyone on this forum, but I would say that I agree with her brother on this. Her birthday is a day to celebrate the entire year, and that would be punishing her for all year... even the parts where she did good.
I would set a reasonable consequence .. like no telephone, internet whatever for a certain amount of time, and stick with it. And of course talking (as opposed to lecturing) is always a good thing.. explain the dangers and the love you have for her... adn the position that it puts you in. Maybe if she is able to have empathy for your feelings then maybe she will be less likely to do it again.
Just my .02 cents and hope it works out!
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Stand your ground and do not give in. There's no telling what could have happened to her. She is old enough to know right from wrong. Taking her birthday party away from her is not a crime, nor will it scar her for life. The mother that posted that bit about her father doing that because she didn't lose 10 pounds is probably more scarred from that reason rather than not having the party. She didn't do anything wrong, your niece, however, did. Anyway, my point is, you are the adult, she is still the child. She is to learn responsibility and consequences of not following through. Tough love is just that, tough, for all parties involved. But don't postpone her grounding because of a birthday. If it's too much to bear, postpone the party until an undisclosed date (so she won't 'be nice' until then) at least until she understands that she must obey the rules.

God bless you! I couldn't do what you do and stay sane. That being said my mother was tough on me when I left the house. I had a strict 11pm curfew and if I was 1 minute late, I was grounded. She wanted to know who, what, when, where, and how my evening was going to pan out. I wouldn't take her birthday away totally but I would only allow a celebration with the family and nothing more. As for letting her get off grounding for good behaviour, no way. Once she is grounded, she needs to stay grounded. No negotiations. My sister lets her kids off for good behaviour and because of that they don't ever take grounding seriously. They know that if my sister grounds them they can clean their room and she'll let them off.
As for that "I didn't think about it" business, she thought about it. She thought about what story she was going to tell you. Not to scare, you but when I did that business of telling my mom I was staying at a friends house, we were really sneaking out and meeting up with boys and partying. If she looked like she hadn't slept then you could take it a step further and make her take one of those at home drug tests from Walgreens or drag her to a doctors office and have her tested.

I WOULD NOT give in. This day and time...the world is a very scary place. There are TONS of wierdos in the world. My heart was beating fast when I was reading your request. I was relieved to hear she had returned home, safely. How about having a "family" birthday? I have three small children and know, one day, I will have to deal with these things. Good job on raising your neice and nephews!

First off, I would not accept her response of "I just didnt' think about it" when you asked why she didn't call you for a ride. This sounds very suspect. By her leaving the movies and her friends and lying to them about you picking her up makes me think she may have been out all night with maybe a boy. She hadn't slept??? Her story has too many holes in it. She left her friends and told them you were picking her up and then she told you that she didn't have a ride and stayed with a different friend? Yeah, she would lose the birthday party and a whole lot of other things. I really suggest getting in her business. With my 13 year old, I give her a phone curfew, I ask who she is talking too, I read her notes, I check her backpack, read her journal and everything, and she hasn't even given me reason to not trust her. Before she goes with any friends, I have to talk to their parents, they have to spend some time at my house too.

Best wishes on taking care of your loved ones. God will bless you for this. Stand your grounds, I would have a family party at home, cake a few presents that's it. It is hard because we all love to give them parties etc, but last years our girls didn't get to go trick or treating because of some school issues. It was tough, but they survived.
This will show her and your nephew who is worried for his sister that you will not put up with this type of behavior. I am sure he will remember this in a couple of years when he starts trying these thing(assuming he does). Hope you get the guidance you need.

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