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I am a stay at home mom with 3 kids under 4 and am struggling with paying the bills. I recently refinanced my mortgage and now pay $2000/month including taxes and ins. I would like to downsize but can't sell my house in this market. My husband brings home $4100/month after taxes, health ins, and only 3% 401K contributions. So after our mortgage payment that leaves us with $2,100/month for day to day expenses. We thought it would be enough and we're very frugil but can't seem to get our spending below this amount. I'm just wondering if others are able to live off this amount. Is this considered low income or is this a decent income and maybe we just need to find more ways to spend our money even better.

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We are lucky to not have any debt "yet". We have a little bit of savings from when I stopped working. We are digging into this savings and will run out soon if we don't change our ways. We know we should sell our house but we will probably owe more then it's worth (due to market) and that is even if we can sell our house. So right now I think we need to wait a couple years till the market picks back up. We just need to find ways of making the $2,100 we have left after the mortgage payment work. I appreciate all the suggestions so far and will definately look into those. Of this $2,100 we tried to budget about $550 for grocery, $250 household/diaper/baby items, $250 utilities, $250 car payment, $250 gas for car (my husband drives a lot for work), $100 car ins, $90 tv/internet, $90 cell phone (we don't have LAN line), $50 doctor/pharmacy, $50 car maintanence, $50 kids activities, $120 preschool, $50 personal care (we are thinking of cutting our own hair), $50 clothing, $50 toys/gifts. So this adds to about $2250. We also go beyond this since we always seem to have unexpected expenses.

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Thanks for all the advice! It made me realize that there are ways to save and I just need to get used to living off less. I think we'll get rid of cable and I actually think it will be a good thing since tv is such a waste of time and we as a family can read more books. I do shop and get kids clothes for $4 an item by going to Kohls and Carters and using coupons. However, I think I may shop garage sales and get these same items for $1 an item. Shoes though I have to buy new. My husband said he'll cut the kids hair and with the weather being nice we can just do it outside to not have the mess. There are so many activities in the summer we can do for free that this category for now can be almost $0. We are also going to be very cautious about using electricity and also turning off lights when we don't need it. I am going to try angel food ministries that someone told me about and we may even be able to take $100 or so off our groceries. I do already shop at Woodmans and Meijers for groceries. I also shopped around for car insurance and am going to switch to a cheaper plan that will save $30/month. When my cell contract ends I will swith to a cheaper company. With all these small endevours I bet we can save a lot of money. I will definately check out the Dave Ramsey book everyone is recommending! Thanks again for all the advice!

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Have you considered trying to work from home? There are lots of ways that you can work from home, brining in either a supplemental income or even replacing a full corporate income. I work from home, and right now since I just started I'm brining in a supplemental, but my goal is to work towards completely replacing what I made before I came home to stay with my kids. If you're at all interested, I can give you some more info, if you'd like. www.workathomeunited.com/joycita or ____@____.com I've really liked the cahnce to work from home, so far.
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Don't forget about CVS and their extracare bucks and they do take competitor's coupons. In the last 3 years, CVS has paid me to fill my perscriptions. Whenever I see a prescription coupon the paper (Meijer/Dominicks/Target/Walgreens), I clip it. Most coupons are for $20.00, but from time to time, I'll see one for $25.00-$30.00. I have well over $150.00 in CVS gift cards now. I also do their extracare bucks and only buy items if they are free or almost free with coupon.

I help my young parents all the time with stretching the budget. It's not that hard to do when you are only looking at about $200-$300 to make the difference. Thanks. D. D.

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I consider your husbands income to be a very decent income. My family of four lives off of about $2400 a month. Of course we live in different areas so your cost of living may be higher.

I'm sure that you can find stuff to cut out of your budget if you look at it hard enough. Write down everything you spend in a month and see if there is any unneccessary things you would be willing to cut out.

Check out Dave Ramsey's book Total Money Make Over it is a great tool to live within your means and save money. Also check out the forum http://www.livinglikenooneelse.com/forum/index.php? it is full of people who follow Dave Ramsey's plan. I have learned so many things from the people there.

If you really have cut out everything you can and you aren't comfortable with the amount of many you have to live off of look into other ways to make money. Check out www.makemoneyonline.tonoftips.net for some ways to earn online in your spare time.

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Like another mom said, you money is also about my take home income. I only have one child, but we pay ALL of our expenses from the $2400 I bring home. Including rent, utilities and EVERYTHING else.
You spend $200 a month on items that are luxuries. If we don't have the money we don't get haircuts, clothes or toys. Period.
I have a prepaid cell phone that I spend maybe $10 a month on and we have a broadband line for $25 a month.

I think your first step is to acknowledge that you don't have too little income, you are simply living beyond your means. Make a list of every single item that you buy for 2 weeks and look at it. Them go through it and mark everything that was either not absolutely necessary and every item where you spend money on a national brand, instead of buying off brand. I am SURE that you will find all kinds of ways to stick to your budget.

Good luck.

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One thing you could do is write down everthing you buy for a month, everything. Write down Starbucks, 10-cent candies (are those still around), donations, all bills, I mean every last cent! Now sit down with it and see where you can trim your budget. Do you really need cable/sat tv? How fast does your internet connect really need to be? Can you trim you food budget by using coupons? (lots of good sites for coupons you can print)
I use coupons for everything I can. I don't even eat out unless I have a coupon. I don't have cable-never have. I do have semi-high speed internet which I need for my job. If I need something and can wait a bit for it, I check out freecycle, craigslist and a local media stations web site. I sell things my children have outgrown. It brings in a little money and cuts down on clutter. You can sell on Criagslist, ebay, amazon, maybe local classifieds. You can google ways to save money. You can buy used clothes for the children instead of buying new. Hand-me-downs are great if you can get them. I was getting hand-me-downs from my sister's son now I give my sons outgrown clothes to my nephew. Also, check out Dave Ramsey. There are so many success stories in his Total Money Makeover book it may give you inspiration and motivation. You can also listen to his radio show or check out his website. Good luck and don't forget to let us know how things go.
BTW
Great preschool program to do yourselfhttp://www.letteroftheweek.com/Preparatory.html
I don't know what activities your children do but mine do crafts. I never pay for craft supplies. I get all mine through Criagslist and freecycle. Haven't bought any for 2-3 years!

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You've received good advice so far.

My only recommendations are to look at what are necessary expenses vs. unnecessary ones.

For us, necessary are mortgage, car payment, day care, groceries, utilities, toiletries, clothing for kids, gas, contributions to 401K and 529 accounts.

Unnecessary (I don't mean completely, but more luxury) are cable, going out to eat, activities for the kids.

If you can prioritize what is absolutely essential, it may be easier to budget.

This housing market stinks, and our house is worth less than we bought it for 6 years ago despite having refinanced last year as well. So, I hope things turn around there.

In our case, our incomes are much higher than the cost of day care, so it is a necessary expense for us at this time.
We try to save money by doing a lot of our shopping at Costco/Sam's Club and storing the extras in closets/freezer.
We try to purchase the kids clothes only during sales, only at stores that have high quality/lower cost (Kohl's, Target, Old Navy). Both kids have wide feet, so we have to spend more on shoes, but we try to get things like Crocs when we can on sale so they always have a pair to fit into.

I cut my kids hair (and my own until recently) to save those costs. My husband won't let me cut his despite doing a good job.

We tend not to go to movies, but like using Red Box and free On-Demand movies when possible. I brown bag at work as much as possible.

We've set $15 limits on gifts for birthday parties.
We're going to ask people not to bring them to our son's 4th birthday party in a few weeks - because we know what it's like to be on that side of the economy.
My family no longer exchanges gifts at Christmas (unless nominal in cost such as photos of the kids who they don't get to see often because of distance).

Believe it or not, getting a new car recently saved us $200/month on our payment. We are putting the savings into paying down our mortgage/car early and more into 529's.

Also, doing things like a Flexible Health Savings account - reimburses for copays, Rx costs, etc. can be a big savings because it's taken out pretax.

Another recommendation is to put AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE onto a credit card such as Discover that pays cash back. We put our cell phones, cable, groceries, day care, etc. onto our Discover, pay if off in full each month, and usually get a few hundred in cash back at the end of the year.

Good luck. Sorry for the long message - hope it helps.

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I'm in the boston area, and so I think our COLAs are probably about the same, and we're in pretty much the same boat, financially. In general, the breakdown of our monthly budget is:
$650 - groceries
$500 - needed non-food items (diapers, dog food, doctors co-pays, gas, etc)
$400 - "extras" - going out to eat, new clothes, beer/wine, activities for the kids, etc.
The rest goes to house payments, insurance, ultilities, car payments, a smidge to savings, etc.

We were also going over our monthly budget until we sat down, figured out this general plan, and committed to sticking to it. As other posters have suggested, writing down every expense really does help (my husband made a spreadsheet that automatically deducts from each column, so we can see how much we have left for the month).

While we could eliminate the "extra's" column and save more, I knew, like a diet, that if I was told I couldn't have anything, I would get tired of that an binge, which wouldn't be helpful. So we don't totally deny ourselves, we just have to keep it within our own limits.

That's it for us in general. If you'd like more info about how we stay in these boundries, feel free to message me privately. And good luck. I know how hard it is to try to really commit to a realistic budget.

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Well you came to the right place. I was looking at your prices and budget and am just asking if you shop places like Aldi's, Cosco, Sam's club, etc. where you get lots more for your dollar. Except for pop at Sam's club. For some reason it is very expensive. Do you run out and shop a lot or do you do one big spree and work with what you have as far as cooking goes? Once a week is good. Do you stock up on milks when it is 1.99 a gallon somewhere or do you run behind and run to Jewel or Dominicks where it is almost $4.00 a gallon sometimes!! Canned soups and soaps are very cheap at Aldi's, cake mixes and awesome brownie mixes are great there, even coffee too (well we love Aldi's for just about everything).Do you cook a lot? Perhaps making several meats on a weekend will be helpful to spread out during the week in casseroles and tacos and sandwiches. And your house smells great all day. Invest in a crockpot or two and cook a beef and some pork in each at the same time, with spices on a slow cooker and your houe smells wonderful then. Skip lunch meats at Deli's like Dominicks and Jewel and go to the local fruit market and cultural stores.If you are a stay at home mom does your child need to be in preschool? Could you babysit? I know three kids is tough but perhaps what is one more...You cannot skip diaper items, but even your own female necessities can be found cheaper at a dollar store than a $7.00 box of tampons at Jewel.
Do you go to garage sales? That can be a family outing and there are always toys and clothes at those. We do cut our own hair so that is a savings and the thing we are all caught with is that tv/internet which seems to be a necessity these days. We pay too much for that. There are a lot of ways to save. It can be a challenge. There are bread stores and outlets all over the place (look it up). Some require a drive, but that's another family outing. Little ones don't really care what the next adventure is, so you can make this your adventure. A cheap or free one. Sounds like you are on the road to a great life. Enjoy the little ones they grow so quick.

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i think is enough one time when i was pregnant and my husband was working very little time we survive with 2300 a month to pay everything include rent,bills,car,grocery is hard but we survive thank god,you need to make a budget you will made it

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That amount is about my husbands take home pay. Out of that money we pay rent, car payment, cell phone bill, groceries, internet, car and renters insurance, groceries, etc. I am a SAHM and I have 2 kids, 3 & 9 mos. It's tight, but we do it. We don't use credit cards at all. If we don't have the cash, we don't buy it. When we first cut up our cards it was a BIG shock. Now I don't even notice it. I save up for the things that we want. I buy clothes second hand or wait for a REALLY good sale. We buy all of our meat in bulk when it's on sale and freeze it. We rarely eat out.
The best thing to do is to keep a spending journal. Write down what you spend and where, including your bills. It will give you and idea of what you can cut out.

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