B. asks from Elmwood Park, IL on September 11, 2006
Kindergarten Issues
Moms,(sorry this is so long, I really needed to vent)
This is what happened to my five year old daughter today (Mon.), on her third full-day of Kindergarten. All the children were told that they could choose a reward off the table except my daughter. She was told, "I am sorry Grace. You can't choose because you didn't do your homework." She was the only Kindergartener who didn't get a little reward.
The Kindergarten teacher had sent home a homework policy that I do not agree with and I was planning to discuss this with her at the Open House this week(Tues.)It states that homework will be sent home on Tues. and Thurs. and is due back the next day. The kids who bring it back will get a reward and if it is late, when it comes back there is no reward for that. The first homework assignment was sent home on Thursday, but due today (Mon.).
Wouldn't you know that it would happen to me. Grace and I did the homework on Sunday and I put it in her folder. I took it out to put in one more item and must of gotten distracted because Grace didn't have it today for school. It was on the refrigerator when I got home tonight. She was so upset that both of us were crying. My husband also opposed the homework policy when we read it, so he is ready to pull her out of this school. I am also concerned that any school with such a cold-hearted teacher in Kindergarten is not in line with my philosophies and values. However, we do like her teaching style (well what I saw of it during School's Week). School has only been is session three full-days, and already I am crying and feeling terribly guilty for not being more on top of things. Isn't Kindergarten supposed to be about nurturing and having fun in school? My daughter did not have fun today and I have been upset and crying all night.
The ironic thing is I taught Kindergarten, first, second, fifth and preschool. I am currently teaching third. I have called my teacher friends and they do not understand her policy of holding five year olds accountable for their parent's responsiblities either.
We are ready to change schools, but my daughter wants to stay. She likes her teacher and even though she doesn't understand why her teacher was mean to her today. She really didn't know why she didn't get something. She would like to still go to her classroom.
What do you think about a teacher that has an unfounded policy for this age-group and who could stand there and tell a five year old that only she can't have a goodie. Isn't that harsh and a terrible thing to do to a little soul who loves school. I really think this teacher effected my daughter in a negative way. She squashed a little of her spirit of today. Second, what do you think about homework in Kindergarten?
So What Happened?™
Hi Moms,
Thanks for the feedback. For those of you that think I am not aware of the times, I did some research and homework is not being given by any of the other Kindergarten teachers in the school, and it is not being given out the first months of school in the other private or public schools in the area. I also put the incident out to other teachers and social workers that I have worked with or work with now, and all of them were surprised at the teacher's policy. Harsh, too much, cold, and too soon were all comments made by professionals working today in our public schools.
I know it is my responsiblity to help my daughter adjust to new situations, but being her advocate is number one on my list. Keep in mind that teacher's are human and they do not know all. Sometimes outside viewpoints help a teacher keep her classroom policies in-line with her students.
As it turns out, the teacher has reviewed her policy and has modified it. The principal also agreed that it was not appropriate for the age group. Grace did turn in her homework and has received credit. I hope all of you will stand up for your child. As a teacher and a mom, I encourage it.
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S.F. answers from Chicago on September 12, 2006
I'm sorry for my very blunt comments but...
I think that you and your daughter learned to double-check that the homework is done and in the folder now so it probably won't happen again. I think the teacher is right. Too many parents blame the teacher for things these days. I know it's just kindergarten but I think it's good to teach your kids responsibility as early as possible. Your daughter didn't get punished...she just didn't get a reward. It's not the end of the world. You shouldn't let your daughter see you cry over this. It's not the worst thing in the world.
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L. answers from Chicago on September 12, 2006
I am shocked that you are a teacher and are responding this way to another teacher the FIRST week of school. Give her the benefit of the doubt before you start bashing her policies and deciding not to abide by them. How would you like it if a parent questioned you the first week?? I was a kindergarten teacher for many years and although it may seem strict to start your policy right away--she is only trying to get them into the habit of doing homework to set the foundation for later years. I gave homework Mon-Thurs and gave a sticker for their chart each time it was brought in on time. It is all a matter of perspective. I don't see it as a punishment when you don't bring in your homework. I see it as the children who remembered get a prize or reward!! It's the whole glass full/glass empty.
A small prize is NOT worth crying all night about. The more you cry and get upset your child will feel this. Do you want her to feel your negative vibes about her school? Be positive and remember next time. Children bounce back easily-- if she otherwise is caring and a good teacher I wouldn't even think about pulling her out.
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L. answers from Chicago on September 12, 2006
I do believe your daughter's teacher is trying to use positive reinforcement for children who complete their homework in a timely matter, however I do not think this should be done in front of all of the other children. My daughters teacher also rewards the children for doing thier homework in a timely matter, however she/or her assistant puts the reward in the children's backpacks while the children are doing another activity. When my daughter finds the treat in her backpack she knows exactly what it was for, and when she doesn't find a treat she knows why that is as well. This way the positive reinforcment is still in tact, however when she or I do forget her homework she is not made to feel bad in front of her class mates.
I don't believe pulling your daughter out of the school would be a good decision. I think you can use this opportunity to show your daughter how to deal with situations you feel are unfair by calmly talking about the problem, evaluating the pros and cons and trying to come up with a solution everyone can live with.
Good luck!
H.C. answers from Rockford on April 19, 2007
WOW! I, too, am a teacher and I cried when I read this. I cannot believe the cold advice of some parents, I think you did the right thing. Obviously these people have no understanding of child development and should take some courses.
The policy is inappropriate,in its ENTIRETY! You have done the right thing and I applaude you! I suppose if your daughter wants to stay then go ahead, as it is not a great example to run from problems. However, if this is a sign of things to come and you run into more issues I would consider another school. I would contact the PTA or parent advisory committee also, it couldn't hurt to have them in your court.
Best of luck,
H.
C.B. answers from Chicago on September 12, 2006
As a teacher I am amazed that you are reacting this way. I'm sorry, but as a parent YOU are responsible for making sure your dd does her homework & returns it to school. My feeling is your outrage has much more to do with your own guilt for leaving her work at home than the teachers policy. I'm sorry your dd didn't get a reward, but she didn't return the work. It's not as if she was ostracized for the day. I'm sure after this experience you won't forget homework again.
Kindergarten is not preschool. It is the building block for first grade and beyond. Giving a small trinket for returning homework now will help the child realize that homework is important. Although, she is a child she has responsibilities. Responsibilites that are just beginning now, but will get much more complex in the years to come.
Unfortunately, too many parents do not think of the work in kindergarten as important so they blow it off. Kindergarten has changed. It is not an extension of preschool. This is the time to learn these lessons. When a trinket is involved, not a letter grade per day. I realize you did the work, but because it wasn't returned the teacher didn't know that. I suggest when homework is completed it immediately goes back into the backpack.
I have always done this with my children after a few crying incidents of my own for forgetting one thing or another. I now sign all papers and put them right back in the backpack. When my dd finishes her homework she knows it goes right in there.
I highly doubt this teacher is going to change her homework policy, as it is a perfectly reasonable one. I don't think she is cold-hearted at all. My dd is now 14 and we have lived in 3 different towns over the years. Nearly every teacher she has had since kindergarten has given little rewards for completing various tasks. There have been many times over the years that my dd didn't get a sticker or a jolly rancher. She lived, and is an excellent student for it.
Unless you feel that your dd completing her homework and returning it to school will be on ongoing problem I don't see what the issue is.
M.B. answers from Chicago on September 12, 2006
Punishing a child in kindergarten because homework is late is just wrong. I learned how to paste in kindergarten. Last year my daughter learned about planets, how to read, add and subtract. Wow, times have changed.
I don't think that the teacher was right to exclude your daughter. I can only imagine what she felt like. Not only feeling bad, she probably did not want her new friends to think bad about her.
I was so lucky with my dauthers kindergarten teacher. She was very open, friendly and understood everyone had different situations.
A child this age should not be punished for homework. Several times my daughter turned her homework in late and she was never punished. The teacher felt bad that she did not have it when the other kids turned it in. (her dad and I are divorced, he never did her homework with her when he had her. I was the only one who sat down to do homework with her. I am very gratefull that the teacher is understanding of our situation)
I would definately talk to the teacher. If you don't get what you want from her, go to the principle.
Is there another kindergarten class she can go to? She will still be in the same school with the friends she already made.
We sent our daughter to our local park district. They have a private kindergarten that is outstanding!! She learned more there than she would of in a public school.
J.C. answers from Chicago on September 12, 2006
My daughter also just finished her last week of Kindergarten and she too receives homework on a WEEKLY basis. We are give a packet of 2 worksheets and a letter explaining what they are doing that week that is due on Friday. I think that is completely.
In terms of a reward maybe a weekly reward for the children would be a better idea, as that allows for a "catch up" day for those that were ill, absent or forgot their homework.
One thing that did get stressed during the parent/student first day of kindergartner is that it IS important for the kindergartners to be responsible for their homework and I thought at first that was a bit much, but I honestly believe that it is helping in ways that I never saw possible with my daughter.
I think that taking your daughter out of the scool would be a horrible way to deal with the situation unless all other venues are explored first (talking to teacher, talking to principal, attmpting to try her ways) as we don't want to teach our children that quitting or running from our problems is an appropriate answer.
T.G. answers from Chicago on September 12, 2006
I can't believe you are looking at the teacher as being mean and reinforcing that in your daughters eyes. The teacher is mearly standing by her rules. I would think as a mother and a teacher you could see that. The teacher let you and your daughter know the rules and the consequences, you should not be surprised at all. It is always hard to stick to your guns. If the teacher didn't follow through, she would have no credibility at all. Just like a parent who doesn't follow through. I think she is trying to teach them responsibility. I don't think any child is too young to learn that lesson. I think it is great that your daughter wants to go back even though she had a bad day. That says volumes about your daughter - in a good way, you don't have a quiter! I bet she will never forget her homework again. Good luck with everything!
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