M.B. asks from Arlington, VA on August 12, 2010
Kindergarten - Arlington,VA
Ok, my son did Pre-K last year, and failed. Really it can happen. I spent my entire summer doing summer school, and working the system. I finally got him into kindergarten for this coming school year. Now I am wondering what I need to do to make sure he doesn't fail kindergarten. Any body have advice about what I need to make sure he knows and is able to do to make sure he doesn't fail kindergarten?
Yes, my son has special education needs. But we are in catholic school, so the public school stuff doesn't apply. We are doing an IEP, just to have it on the record, but his situation is complicated, even all the specialist we have seen say it is very complicated. There is no diagnosis that explains his "stuff." I more interested in: Does he have to be reading to go to first grade, and if so what type of books? Does he have to do addition and subtract?
Thanks.
So What Happened?™
We ended up getting our son back into our local catholic school, so we are sending him there. We are still working on the IEP with the county since that may be an option in the future.
Thanks everyone for all your help. Best of Luck with back to school, everyone.
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N.O. answers from Phoenix on August 12, 2010
This website offers lesson plan ideas for teachers k-2nd grade. If you browse through the material you can get an idea of the subjects, content, and skills an average kindergartener should know.
http://atozteacherstuff.com/Grades_K-2/
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M.G. answers from Chicago on August 12, 2010
I would think catholic school is not a good choice for you. Kids are not required to go to preschool. How can he fail? Anybody can start kindergarten, no matter what.
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N.O. answers from Phoenix on August 12, 2010
This website offers lesson plan ideas for teachers k-2nd grade. If you browse through the material you can get an idea of the subjects, content, and skills an average kindergartener should know.
http://atozteacherstuff.com/Grades_K-2/
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M.R. answers from Columbus on August 12, 2010
Public school is still requried to offer him a program, even if you decide to go to private school. It is going to be difficult for him to get what he needs in catholic school, they ususlly just do not have the resources and support services to make kids with special needs successful. He may qualify for speech and langague even if he is not attending public school. It is an instructional service, so they may still have to provide that. The one exception my be if his issue is only a cognitive one, and if he will learn how other children learn, only slower and with more repetition. He might do OK in catholic schools under these circumstances with private support services. If he is high functioning, or has peeks and valleys in his intelectual functioning, a langague based issue, or fine motor needs, he will be better served in public kindergarten. He can't fail public kindergarten if he has an IEP, under no circumstances should you hold him back as this is not an effective educational strategy for children with special needs. If what the teacher did the year before did not work, he should not give it another go, that is not his failur, it is the schools and in public school, he would be due compensatory serivices to bring him up to grade level because the school failed him. Many parents bail out the school by allowing rentention which is not good for children (especially ours.)
I would go ahead and see what the public school will offer, and compare the two programs and see which one is going to be best for him. We had to give up on our committment to catholic education. What we found early on is that they tried very hard to help, but just could not offer us what she needed. At one school, we were asked to hire a full time aid and pay for it ourselves, above the cost of the tuition. It was just not fesable. Once we were in public school and she was progressing, going back is not an option either, as most of the cathlolic schools in later grades are looking for "average to above average students" not above average needs. Unless you have a very progressive parrish school who has a large committment to kids with issues, you are probably better off in public school and CCD.
If reading is going to be an issue, you want him to have an alphabet phonics program, orton gillingham based, sometimes called dyslexia instructional or intervention programs, because all children can learn to read this way; he need not have dyslexia to need this method to learn to read. You will want to avoid whole language programs and reading fluency programs which will not help him learn to decode. These programs are available at public schools, and if you advocate, you can get them. You need to be able to demonstrate that he needs this, and the earlier you do, the better off he will be. If you stay with catholic school, you may be paying for this kind of reading isntruction privately, and it is best offered as an intensive program, with daily instruction so private serivice is expensive. One think is for sure, if he stays in catholic school, and he is not progressing with reading from the outset, assume that this is what he needs and get it for him sooner rather than later. Learning to read is essential, and it has an experation date! The best window for learning to decode is prior to the end of third grade. Most kids will need this program for one or two years and will make significant progress in the program, if done prior to the end of 3rd grade.
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M.J. answers from Sacramento on August 12, 2010
I think the big question is why he failed? Was it due to behavioral issues? Learning difficulties? In both cases, he may qualify for an IEP or 504 plan. These are customized plans for teachers that help your child thrive in school. To get started, put in a request at the district office for an evaluation. Legally, they have to provide this assessment if parents ask for it. Just mention you think your child might benefit from special assistance at school and can they schedule an evaluation. It's free, so take advantage of it.
Also, start off the school year by asking if you can meet privately with his teacher. Outline the difficulties he faced in pre-k and steps you've taken to help him. Then ask for his/her input on what else can be done to ensure a successful time at kindergarten. Treat the relationship with his teacher as a collaboration.
Best of luck!
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B.H. answers from Tallahassee on August 12, 2010
T.C. answers from Austin on August 12, 2010
My son has some issues(Aspergers/ADHD) and kindergarten was difficult. He did learn to read all the sight words by the end of kindergarten even though it seemed like he'd never get it. Now he has caught up and then some!
I was worried he wouldn't pass because of writing, but at least in public schools they do their best to pass the kids along even if they will need extra help in the next grade. My son still doesn't have all of the K level writing skills, even 2 years later. By the end of kinder, the kids could draw 3 pictures and then write a 3 sentence story to go with it. They could see how an unfamiliar word was spelled on the board, then go back to their seats and write it down. Even in kindergarten, they were counted off on spelling tests for backwards letters. Because my son has a documented learning disability, he does not have to master these skills to move on to the next grade. For the other skills such as math, colors, etc., if the teacher could tell from his verbal responses that he was learning, that was enough even if he couldn't show it the same way as the other kids. For behavior, it really helps to have the right aide, who is patient, educated, and can prevent problems before things get out of control. The kinder aide's only qualification was that she was a mom.
A.S. answers from Eugene on August 12, 2010
If you get an IEP he will pass onto first grade without any problem.
There was such a wide level ranch of kids levels a that age some know how to read others don't know how to hold a pencil. The teacher has such a hard time teaching at different levels. A lot of the teacher will have to be done my you. You will have meeting at the being of school to show what they will be learning. This is were you will get the best information about what he needs to know. October you should have a conference with the teacher, more info. If you can work in the class once a week, it will help you see what the teacher, your son, and other kids are doing. It helps you keep up. Schedule a monthly meeting with the teacher to see how he is keeping up. What does we need to work on, what is he doing well? His teacher knowing you are a concerned parent will help him succeed.
Does he know how to use a glue stick and scissors? If he does it will make things easier on him in class, so he can spend more time on the paper work/important things.
They are tested on was counting to 100. This was later in the year. They start 1-10 go to 1-20 so on. You can start on this now. We would count every, she liked to count stairs. We made a game counting every time we went up and down. If you start early playing with him counting every chance you get it will be easier in the long run. Being in Arlington you should be able better luck find stairs than some places.
This is our school web site links, sorry you just can't click on it.
http://schools.4j.lane.edu/howard/howard_site/Kindergarte...
Good luck!! He will do just fine with you helping him.
M.G. answers from Chicago on August 12, 2010
I would think catholic school is not a good choice for you. Kids are not required to go to preschool. How can he fail? Anybody can start kindergarten, no matter what.
R.J. answers from Seattle on August 12, 2010
Your answer varies not only by region, but by district AND by schools themselves. That it's a private school makes it even more unlikely that any of us would know the answer. I know some schools where children have to be reading in order to enter K, and other schools where anything beyond the alphabet isn't even introduced until 1st grade. Some schools where +-x/ is taught in K and 1st and others where not even number recognition is taught until THIRD grade.
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