C.S. asks from New York, NY on October 23, 2008
Is It Something I Am Eating?
I am at my wits end. I have been breastfeeding for 3 months now and my son still is having issues with stomach cramps, diarrhea, green mucuosy poops, etc. Some doctors say it does not matter what you eat, others give you a list. If I did not eat what they said (and each says something different) I would eat pasta with olive oil and nothing else. Can anyone tell me how fast the food you eat shows up in your breast milk, good recommendations on how to figure out if it is something you are eating and if there is something else it may be wrong with him (i.e. age and he just has to outgrow it, etc). Oh, and I have given him a bottle on occasion of formula and it seems the poop gets normal but he has more gas and is fussier. I am so confused.
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I can't tell you all how much I appreciate the level of response and the amazing input. My son turned 4 month and a switch flipped. I cut out dairy and a few other things and it did not seem to make much difference, then all the sudden he was 100% better. Now, dairy does seem to bug him a bit, so I watch what I eat. My theory is he was sensitive overall, and then I had a quick let-down and thus he was getting an imbalance of foremilk. I also remembered with my first that at the time she got better my milk seemed to change...I remember reading that your milk composition does changed over the months and I think it does have an impact. Now it is very white not as yellow / clear. He still has cramps when he eats and I think it is his GERD and somewhat what I eat. Thank you so much for the outpouring of ideas and support. I live in Switzerland now and the support via this group provides some comfort. I don't have a huge network here to rely on.
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A.C. answers from New York on October 24, 2008
If you decide you want to try formula again try Enfamil Gentlease--this should help with the gas and fussiness!
A.J. answers from New York on October 24, 2008
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E.M. answers from Albany on October 23, 2008
I had a lot of problems with my daughter and YES it really does matter what you eat if you have a child with stomach problems. My child also had bad reflux and her reflux medicine helped alot. but she was stillhaving problems. I had to give up all milk products and that helped a lot. My sister had to give up wheat,milk soy and eggs and any thing spicy like tomato sauce. mucus in the bowl movement usually means that your child is allergic or intollerant to something you are eating. I think it takes about 8 hours for foods to show up in your breast milk and it takes 2-3 days to get things like milk proteins to get out of your breast milk and it can take a whole month of your child's digestive tract to heal. I would ask your ped to check your childs stool for traces of blood. because if there is any blood in their stool then he is most likely allergic to something probably milk. Talk with a lactation speciallist about what foods to give up first.
My daughters stomach problems seem to vanish at 9 months of age it was really weird. She was weaned at 10 months and was on Ailmentum. She even had a hard time when i introduced solids the only food she could eat at the begining was rice cereal, pears, peaches, sweet potatoes and squash. that was it for months then all of a suddend it was like her digestive track healed. She went to an allergist and wasnt allergic to anything. Now she eats and drink everything and has no problems. I would have never thought that she was going to get over this. It seemed like everthing made her sick. I thought I had a baby that would have food issues for the rest of her life but she is great now.
good luck I woud give up milk products first.
E.
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A.M. answers from Rochester on October 24, 2008
If you suspect a food allergy, you can find a lot of useful information about elimination diets at www.foodallergy.org and www.askdrsear.com (has an elimination diet plan that many follow). When my daughter was reacting to dairy she had similar symptoms and it took about 3 days of no dairy before her symptoms improved. They didn't disappear because of the GERD but the fussiness and stomach cramps almost disappeared. Another thing to consider: Green mucousy poops can be a sign of allergy but they can also be a sign of baby getting too much foremilk and not enough hindmilk when nursing. This happens a lot with GERDlings because they take smaller feedings. If the baby is only getting the foremilk (thin watery stuff at the beginning) it races through their body causing pain and gives green poop. You may want to express some of this beforehand so that the baby can get to the rich hind milk which won't reflux as easily AND will soothe their stomach. GERD forums such as www.pager.org and http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/breastfeedingreflux/ can be a terrific place to find info on nursing a GERDling. I've had two severe refluxers and nursed both. It was really difficult in the beginning but I ended up having wonderful extended BFing relationships with both. Hang in there. It will get easier! These forums can be a terrific source of support and information. I hope your little one is feeling better soon!
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R.R. answers from Rochester on October 23, 2008
I found it was my digestion. I made a tea with fennel, anise, and dill and that helped; I also took digestive enzymes and good probiotics. The big 3 for food allergies and harder to digest proteins are cow's milk, soy, and wheat. This leaves you with a lot of options; breakfast can be eggs, smoothies, and oatmeal/non-wheat warm cereals or things like apple or pear crisp made with oats and oat flour, lunches can be luscious salads or nourishing homemade soups with non cruciferous veggies, and dinner can be rice/rice pasta and non cruciferous veggies + meat- or cornbread, millet, quinoa... I found it to be almost comforting to be limited in food options as I could make a rhythm/schedule of what I ate, vary seasonings/spices and which veggies I had, and stick with very simple, plain items. Coconut milk was also a delicious way to get rich and creamy effects without cow's milk. After 4-5 months I was able to resume my normal diet but I learned from the experience what *I* digest best- it's not just our babies with sensitive tummies, but the combination of our baby's tummy and our own poor digestion (which we often don't realize until we remove common offenders). Also pay attention to frequency- too much nursing can cause problems; stick to one side and make sure your baby is actually rooting for food and not just crying for other reasons.
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L.W. answers from Albany on October 24, 2008
When my SIL had this issue, she had to eliminate one food every three or four days to figure it out. Turns out, her son was allergic to EVERYTHING she ate, and she had to put him on special formula.
My youngest son had issues with Acid Reflux as a young infant (he was seven weeks premature...). He'd spit up (a fair amount) anywhere from 30-60 minutes after nursing. It went away completely about three days after he started eating cereal - the cereal was heavier, and so stayed in his tummy better - even when nursing, and he's been just fine ever since (he's now 3 1/2).
A.P. answers from New York on October 24, 2008
You most likely have an oversupply. Look into it on Kellymom.com and talk to a La Leche leader. My first son had the same thing and I got bad advice from the pediatricians and hospital LCs because I didnt have ALL the symptoms of oversupply but that is exactly what it was. DONT give up, I did with my first because of all the reasaons you mentioned and actually thought my son was allergic to me! Couple of weeks afterwards I still had milk and re-lacated (long story) and everything was great. Dont give up if you want to BF, get help, it will make a huge difference. PS. It takes about 4-6 hours (I think!) for food you eat to make it to the baby's digestion. With my second boy (almost 9 months) I also had a huge supply (let downs every hour!) and baby never finishing a breast, rock hard all day. I saw Dr. Christina Smillie in Stratford, CT and a La Leche leader to help. Worth every bit of it!
M.M. answers from New York on October 25, 2008
I didn't read the other responses so forgive me if I repeat. First, are you trying Mylicon infant's gas relief? My doctor said when babies have green poop it's because they have to much gas and the food is passing through the digestive system too quickly. I've heard broccoli and garlic are the big nonos when it comes to GERD. When I was nursing my first though, I found that I was so bored sitting at home that I would just sit on the couch and eat almost a whole box of Wheat Thins in a sitting. He would start screaming in the middle of his meal and have horrible, very painful sound farts. I stopped eating the Wheat Thins and that stopped right away. So it does matter at least somewhat what you eat.
A.L. answers from Buffalo on October 23, 2008
i would contacta lactation consultant or la leche league to see if they have ideas. i recently moved here so i don't know of people in this area, but i saw a few lactation consultants for the first 4 months after my daughter was born. it was very helpful and i felt supported.
good luck!
A.N. answers from New York on October 24, 2008
My son had the same issues when he was younger and was super colicky. I actually went to a lactation specialist that told me one issue was oversupply so I switched to one breast per feeding. Then I also eliminated dairy and soy from my diet. Soy is in everything! I was basically living on plainly seasoned protein and veggies. Even after doing these things there really wasn't much of a difference. After 5 weeks of that, I slowly reintroduced dairy back into my diet and things remained unchanged. He cried constantly, had some very strange mucousy poops and seemed uncomfortable half of the time. It wasn't until he was 3-4 months that it started to improve and resolve itself. Another thing that I dealt with was that everyone had a different opinion about the situation which only confused me more!
Honestly I think some babies just have a hard time adjusting and no matter what you do, it's just a matter of waiting it out. I'm not saying this is the case with your son, but I just thought I'd share our experience.
I hope things get better soon!
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