H.H. asks from Collingswood, NJ on December 12, 2010
In-law Holiday Issues
My husband's parents are both deceased and he has one brother who lives far away. His brother is 40 and has a girlfriend who is in her late 20s. They moved about 2 years ago, but before that lived a little closer, but still 1-2 hours away. They have stayed with us many times. I don't particularly like them. They are terrible houseguests who don't clean up after themselves, offer to help with anything, eat all my food, etc. Since they have moved so far away, my brother-in-law has come to stay twice, once last Christmas and once in July. Each time for 7 days. When he came at Christmas it was over the holiday, Christmas Eve and Day. We have 2 kids, 4 and 2. I'm just really upset that they are going to be here over the holiday, giving us no special family time alone. My 4-year-old is just getting into the stage where she wants to leave cookies and is really excited about Santa and I'd like to do some special things as a family Christmas Eve and Day. I'd also love to be alone with my husband wrapping presents and setting them up, but with them here it won't be the same. When I bring up the subject, my husband gives me the guilt trip about him being his only family and he's not going to tell him not to come. I do think 7 days is overstaying their welcome, but I just want to tell them for next year that we'd like to spend the holiday by ourselves and could they come after Christmas. Even if the came the 25th at night would be fine with me. I'm feeling a little selfish though b/c we see my family a lot. On Christmas Eve and Day, but we also see his Uncle and cousins on Christmas Day. I'm just wondering if I'm being selfish or mean (b/c I happen to not particularly like them) or am I justified? I'd live some pointers as to how to pose this to my husband and brother-in-law. They already have their tickets for this year, but I'd like to not have the same thing happen next year.I should also say his brother doesn't have a lot of $ and I've brought up a hotel before and my husband won't go for it. He doesn't even buy us dinner or anything when he comes, WE buy HIM dinner (and breakfast and lunch..). We also have no guest room so they've usually been on our couch. I think I will have my daughter sleep with us this time b/c I couldn't take the both of them camped out in our living room. For those of you who have had family visit and stay at hotels, how have you brought that up with them? He is a BIG mooch and very cheap. Doesn't have a job, mooches off his girlfriend. Just to be clear, I don't want him to pay for us to dinner, but pay his own way once in a while or go to the grocery store (he has use of our car). I'm a pretty nonconfrontational person and he has stayed at our house SO many times, any pointers as to how to bring up stuff like buying their own stuff, putting their dishes in the sink or dishwasher, not leaving towels on the floor? And last thing, they tend to think traditional "family" stuff is corny and make comments about stuff that I do or that other people do that is similar to stuff I do (part of the reason I don't care for them and feel put upon having them here ON Christmas).
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K.J. answers from Chicago on December 12, 2010
My youngest brother is a mooch too, and has no problem with letting us foot the bill for his good time when he comes. So, I have decided that when he comes, he will earn his keep. Instead of taking him out to dinner, I make him help me COOK the dinner. If I need to run an errand, I have him babysit while I am out. I have him watch the kids while I shower, and make no effort to cut it short. I have him shovel snow, mow the lawn, etc. It has helped make the visits less stressful for me, and he now even has started to wash his bedding and towels before he goes home!
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J.O. answers from Chicago on December 12, 2010
Tell them since they do not have any children and the kids will be up early they can come any time after 10am on the the 25th make it a matter of fact not that you do not like them or want some special time with the hubby on the eve. Good luck!
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M.L. answers from Houston on December 12, 2010
They are annoying, I get that.
But, you can still carve out a time to do special family traditions with you kids and husband. Wrap presents with hubby at night in your bedroom. Still do the cookie thing.
It's a great idea to give them the girl's room and have her sleep with you. That's what we do when guests come.
As for the food, just be blunt and say very kindly the first day or two they are there, "I'm going grocery shopping in an hour, how do you all want to split the food bill for the week?"
As for cleaning up, just ask. Every night, take turns making dinner, the people who sit dinner out cleans the kitchen. Implement new rules, do it kindly, but don't take no for an answer. Your husband just gives him the scrub brush and say, "hey brother, lets go clean up the dishes and give the women a break, afterwards we'll have dessert."
You have to set the law down with people up front so they know your expectations. If they can't handle it, they can get a hotel. When we have house guests, we always talk about this stuff the first night... it may sound weird, but it gets all that tension that is likely to build up out of the way so we can have more fun and not feel like we are slaving away for ungrateful people all week... and they know what the rules are.
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K.J. answers from Chicago on December 12, 2010
My youngest brother is a mooch too, and has no problem with letting us foot the bill for his good time when he comes. So, I have decided that when he comes, he will earn his keep. Instead of taking him out to dinner, I make him help me COOK the dinner. If I need to run an errand, I have him babysit while I am out. I have him watch the kids while I shower, and make no effort to cut it short. I have him shovel snow, mow the lawn, etc. It has helped make the visits less stressful for me, and he now even has started to wash his bedding and towels before he goes home!
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D.P. answers from Pittsburgh on December 12, 2010
Well, I guess you could take your cue from your husband who has already stated his opinion (Brother is his "only family and he's not going to tell him not to come") so really why are you trying to push that?
Free up a room for brother & girlfriend so they are not camped out in the common areas, all their stuff goes in there....
Also, why not speak up when they need to clean up after themselves? Just point out to one of them (or both of them) what needs to be done, cleaned up, etc. If you don't speak up and allow yourself to be treated like a servant, don't be surprised if you are!
This is the 3rd time, in what, 2 years? Is once every 8 mos. too much for your husband to host his brother?
If he doesn't have a lot of money then of course he's not going to take you all out for dinner!
House guests can be a drag, but this is your family now too.....why put your husband in that position?
You can still do all the stuff you want to do with your kids. The Norman Rockwell images are largely a myth anyway--try to incorporate the uncle into the scene.
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J.R. answers from Glens Falls on December 12, 2010
I don't think you are selfish, I think you are having normal feelings and trying to have your vision of what you want Christmas to be. However, sometimes life gives us circumstances different than the vision and adapting to those circumstances can make us and our loved ones happier. Having your daughter sleep with you while they are in town is a great example of adapting. It will be easier for you that they aren't spread out in the living room, and your daughter will think it's extra special. As your husband only has his brother, I would put up with the holiday visit. Your daughter won't care, she'll still be super excited. And it's probably hard for your husband to not have his mom and dad at Christmas so if he likes to have his brother around for the holidays, those are the cards on the table. Maybe you and your husband can make a tradition of Christmas shopping and wrapping together one night during December. I have a friend that does this and she really looks forward to it. Just make some traditions that fit with your circumstances. Oh and maybe you can give BIL a gift certificate for Christmas to take his girlfiend out to one of your favorite local restaurants and give you and your husband a night alone while he's in town.
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C.S. answers from Dayton on December 12, 2010
I would just explain how you feel to your husband and have them stay in a hotel ha! You have good reasons. I would feel the same as you! Remind your husband if momma isn't happy noone is!! It's your home; no reason you should be miserable especially during the holidays. That is not right if your husband can't respect that. His brother is grown. I'm sure he can handle getting a hotel for a few nights! Good luck!
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J.O. answers from Chicago on December 12, 2010
Tell them since they do not have any children and the kids will be up early they can come any time after 10am on the the 25th make it a matter of fact not that you do not like them or want some special time with the hubby on the eve. Good luck!
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S.B. answers from Wichita on December 12, 2010
is there no way they can stay at a nearby hotel? My parents are always welcome at a holiday, if they stay at a hotel. I love them, but too much time with my mom puts me in a pretty bad mood.
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T.C. answers from Dallas on December 12, 2010
Could you perhaps rent anRV and set it up in your back yard? It would give them a place to sleep without displacing your daughter. It would keep them out of your space some, and you could offer them a chance to borrow your car to make a run to the grocer store to stock it... so you are not feeding them all their meals for seven days. Offer to your husband Choice A they come the 25th, choice B they stay in a motel, or Choice C the RV...
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