April 26, 2008,
E.C. asks from Shakopee, MN on April 24, 2008
Immunizations - Shakopee, MN
I am taking my girls in for thier 2 yr and 6 mo check ups next week. They are both due for shots. For about a year now I have been very uneasy about having them vaccinated. With all the hype about possible links to autism and other health complications I am questioning whether or not it is the best thing for them. I am wondering if any of you do selective immunizations or none at all and why you chose that for your family. Any articles or websites that will help me in making my final decision. If I choose to stop vaccinationg them how is enrollment in school other activities impacted by it.
Also, when my second daughter was born I breifly mentioned my concerns with their doctor and she was almost affended by my doubting immunizations. I'm sure if I choose to stop I will need to find a different doctor, one that will support (or at least accept) my decision. Does anyone have any recommendations of Pediatricians that are open minded?
S.P. answers from Minneapolis on April 25, 2008
Wow you have had all aspects to look at. I am on the same page and work with someone who also agrees shots are not that great and she does not do any of them. When going to school say it is something you do not believe in and they have to be ok with that. I started out with shots but we will not do anymore. They have even come out with a new one for babies so they won't get as many colds. Sounds kind of fishy to me. I am staying away from all of them. Good luck!
C.H. answers from Minneapolis on April 25, 2008
I am a mother of 3 small children as well as an OT with the autism population. Until someone tells me where Autism comes from, I can not rule out the possibility that vaccinations have some connection. I have chosen to space out all my vaccinations with support from the book "What Your Doctor May Not Tell You About Children's Vaccinations" It is written by a physician who supports vaccinations but believes the frequency of the shots is too much for a child's developing nervous system. In the book, she provides a schedule of when to give the shots. Based on this information, in addition to my wonderful pediatrician's input, I am able to bring my kids in once a month and sometimes less frequently in order to space out my kids shots. My Dr. will write the upcoming shots in my kids' charts and then I just make a nurses visit. My 5 year old is up to date on all her shots for kindergarden and has had them spaced out since she was 4 months. Takes time but it's worth it. My Physician is at Fairview Children's Clinic in Minneapolis. Dr. Goel & Dr. Griffin have both been supportive and wonderful. I hope this helps!! Good Luck!!!
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C.E. answers from Minneapolis on April 26, 2008
props to you for questioning vaccines in the first place and wanting to educate yourself! where to start? people that are so strongly pro-vaccine are most likely not well informed. if they had taken the time to understand where they come from, how they're made, what long term problems they cause, the fact that most of the diseases stopped on their own before the vaccine was made, the fact that there are many homeopathic remeidies for all the diseases that are vaccinated for...so many things! bottom line is that it's your choice. i have a great pediatrician that does suggest them, but respects you and doesn't try to force anything on you. remember, you are hiring the dr., they shouldn't be rude to you! i'll pass that name on to you if you want:) i went to a few classes hosted by an chiropractor and a homeopath. info can be found at www.y-chiropractic.com. it was very helpful. i've got some websites to pass on to you...
a good book is...A Parents Guide to Childhood Shots
you can wait on the shots until you feel more comfortable. take your time, educate yourself and you will find the right answer for you and your family. good luck with everything!
N.S. answers from Minneapolis on April 24, 2008
You'll probably be surprised to find these are Catholic sites, while the Church overall supports and encourages vaccinations, it isn't supportive of the conditions in which they are currently being administered in the U.S.
You'll find as you read them that this is a big deal with Catholics for many reasons, including preserving parental rights (which the Church teaches is an inherent God-given right) in regard to whether a parent can choose whether to vaccinate vs. a school district demanding that they vaccinate.
The second reason you may or may not be aware of is that Catholics do not support abortion (it goes against Church teaching), therefore, the Church recommends for Catholics who wish to remain in good standing to purposefully look for and attempt to use alternatives to the current vaccines for childhood diseases available in the US because they were formulated using fetal stem cell lines.
To remedy this issue the Church encourages parents to have their doctors special order vaccines from Europe that don't use these lines, or to file an exemption for religious reasons, and to lobby the pharmaceuticals to formulate non-stem cell versions of these vaccines. Unfortunately, there are some vaccines that do not have an alternative, but there are some companies that are working on finding an alternative.
One piece of information that may be helpful to you is that both sites provide information where to find doctors and clinics nationwide that support parental rights and therefore would be willing to help a parent sign a valid waiver form to be given to their school district. The "COG" site in particular lists which states have exemption laws, and what you need to do specifically to file one. Just go to the left column and click on "Vaccine Resources" to get started. On the onemoresoul.org site, click on "NFP Directory" to get to the list of clinics/docs nationwide.
The same clinics and doctors listed will also special order vaccines and administer them on a schedule to your request, just as long as they don't use fetal stem lines. Many foreign countries like France for instance produce what some medical experts say are safer vaccines than what are available in the U.S. (No mercury, no allergens, extra chemicals etc.) Many of these doctors and clinics would be willing to help you secure them. If you read the research on these sites regarding what's in these vaccines, you will also discover hard to find information and studies regarding chemicals linked to autism and other medical concerns such as severe allergies because many vaccines are egg based, for instance. So if you don't mind going to a Catholic doctor or a Catholic clinic these might be an option for you.
Hope this helps.
A.L. answers from Minneapolis on April 25, 2008
I have heard a lot lately about spacing out the shots (as someone else has mentioned). Instead of getting 3 vaccines at once, maybe try one at a time. As for the school thing... I wanted to point out that someone was wrong in stating the school has to accept it if you don't immunize your children. If your children go to a public or private school there are certain immunizations that they REQUIRE before you're allowed to go. I had to miss a week of high school b/c I was not allowed to go until I was immunized for something that apparently was missed ( I grew up in Europe). Also, if your child went to a public school without immunizations, they'd probably end up the one getting sick. Remember these germs and viruses are all around us but we don't get sick b/c we've been immunized. If your child is around it, they may get sick. Just look at the chicken pox outbreak in all of those FLDS kids in Texas. They weren't immunized and just coming out of their community they came across it and all got sick. My daughter is 4 and has all her shots, which I didn't space out, but I say do what is best for your child but know the risks of not getting them vaccinated as well. I'm a nurse and I've seen really sad cases :(
E.V. answers from Minneapolis on April 25, 2008
I appreciate your concerns because I have had the same. With my first I was concerned because we had family allergies to vaccines which made it even more scary. I did delayed vaccines for my eldest and I chose my pediatrician because she believes in parents making educated decisions about their child's vaccines instead of guilt tripping them for choosing not to. When I have had other pediatricians in the same office I have gotten a lecture. Sounds like your pediatrician is in the latter category. I would encourage you to stick to your guns and make it clear to your pediatrician that it is your responsibility to take the risk either way not hers/his. Also, we decided to do limited vaccines, because of the research I did the connection to autism is linked to Thermosal which was a mercury based preservative. This is no longer used (or significantly reduced. Also, active cultures are not used as often, this also reduces risk. I looked at each vaccine, evaluated the risk of getting the illness with the risk of the vaccine. Some I will not give my kids like Hep B and some I think are wise like Hemophilus influenzae. Ultimately, it is YOUR job to evaluate your risk and benefits. Their is so much hype about this and it is hard to know what is true anymore. For me, it was very beneficial to have a pediatrician who was willing to give me the information I needed that was not emotionally based and I knew that she would support my decision no matter what. Good Luck
K.T. answers from Minneapolis on April 25, 2008
I'm struggling with this same issue. I just got The Vaccine Book by Dr. Sears and am finding it really informative. He goes through each vaccine, gives information about the disease it protects against, risks of the vaccine, and then the reasons for and against getting it. It's very science based and doesn't try to persuade you one way or the other. Good luck with your decision!
K.K. answers from Minneapolis on April 25, 2008
I advise you look into all the information out there before making you decision. That is what I have done and for now am not vaccinating my son who is 11 months. The rate of autism in the US is currently about 1/150 children with it being about 1/60 boys and that worries me. He hasn't had a vaccination yet. What many people don't know is that in the state of MN you just need to sign a waiver form that states that you chose not to vaccinate your child when they enroll into school. My son is currently in a daycare center and we have had no problem with him not being vaccinated. There are many resources out there, but you must be sure they aren't giving you biased information and that the research and comments are valid.
H.T. answers from Minneapolis on April 25, 2008
We delayed vaccinations due to autism in our family. My nephew is autistic & I have volunteered with kids w/ autism. In my nephew's case, they do not think it was caused by vaccinations. Some of the kids I worked with the parents did feel it was caused by the preservitive in the vaccinations (thymeresol i.e. mercury).
My daughter only received one vaccination at a time. In her first two years, she received one vaccination every 3 mos. We delayed the MMR vaccination until she was 4 & delayed the chicken pox until she started kindergarten.
I do believe kids should be vaccinated. I think there are too many given at one time & some like Hepitis B are not necessary until they are older.
Our doctor is very understanding of our vaccination concerns & so is the clinic, which is in Edina. I can pass along the name if you are interested.