C.E. asks from Forest, MS on June 02, 2009
I'm Getting Married to a Man with BAD Credit
I love my fiancee' very much and cannot wait to marry him. Quik question though. His credit is not swell and he owes out a fair amount of money. That we cannot afford to pay of all of it off. I do not want this to affect me or my credit. I am the only one with credit and I know if this messes it up we will never HAVE anything (house,etc.). What can I do to protect my family and keep his debt away from my credit.
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S.C. answers from Lafayette on June 02, 2009
When I married my husband, I had very little credit (I had just turned 21) and he had bad credit. His bad credit stemmed from a student loan (he wasn't paying it because he sent a check to pay off one of them and the lean holder scratched out the acct # at the bottom and applied it to the other one so that he still had 2 acct's that he had to pay for LONG STORY...). Well, after the IRS took away my income taxes to go towards his loan, I made him take care of it. And he did. We set up a payment plan and paid it off. His dad co-signed a new truck for him and he paid it off. My credit card that I had established, I paid it off. We lived in an apartment until I was 26 and saved enough money to put 5% down on a $215K house. Our credit ratings were both phenomenal.
C., it can be done. I don't know of any way that his credit won't affect yours, but I can tell you how to make his better. Help him pay off his debts. Open a small credit card account under his name with yours as a co-signee. Buy something under $100 and pay it off when the bill comes. Put all utilities in his name (even if you have to put a deposit) and pay them on time every month. This will dramatically help his credit. You can check his credit free once a year.
This is what we did, so I know that this is possible. It takes time, but it can be done. Also, Dave Ramsey is an author to several books on this particular topic. He has a radio show every Sunday to help you to get out of debt and establish credit.
I hope this helps. God Bless.
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J.R. answers from Lafayette on June 02, 2009
have him clean it up before getting married and make a financial plan to stick to so it doesnt get that far again
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S.N. answers from Oklahoma City on June 04, 2009
C.,
Debt is a serious issue, and it's the biggest reason for most divorces and fights in marriage. What I reccoment before you tie the knot is to have a serious talk with him about money and how serious is he at repairing his credit, and how much debt, if any, are you both comfortable with. I reccomend pre-marital counseling, and most of all, i recommend Dave Ramsey's Finacial Peace University. It's a thirteen week program set up to teach you how to get out of debt, stay out of debt, and build weatlh. It teaches you financial tools you didn't know were out there, and tools you didn't know you had. It's a really amazing program, my husband and I went through it about three years ago, and it's helped us in ways we didn't know it could. You can check it out on Dave's website www.daveramsey.com and find out more about the details, or feel free to email me at ____@____.com and I can answer whatever questions you might have about it. It's usually done within local churches, that's the easiest way to take the course, and most of them provide free childcare as well while you're in the classes. It's an awesome progam. I hope this helps.
S.
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C.N. answers from Baton Rouge on June 03, 2009
When you get married, his credit becomes your credit. My husband and I both had some credit issues before we got married, and decided that it was better to put off getting married until we got our credit ratings cleaned up. We lived together for four years and worked on getting bills paid off until we got our credit ratings to the point where we could actually get a loan for a house. We didn't like waiting to get married, but it was the best decision in terms of our future financial picture.
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D.G. answers from Fort Smith on June 03, 2009
I don't mean to be a downer but I wouldn't do it just because of past experience. Let me tell you what happened to me...... About four years ago I met a man that just seemed to be so perfect but he owed alot of money on his school loans but he had a good job so I was blinded by love so we got married the next year and I had a precious little boy with him. A few months after we got married he got fired from his job and it was a several months before he went back to work and after that he didn't make as much and things were very tight. I had perfect credit when I met him but now I don't because of him. We lost our car and we got so far behind on everything it was just to much. We ended up getting a divorce because all of the financial problems became too much and we fought about it all the time. I almost lost my house over him and now I have to file bankruptcy because of him too...... So needless to say my credit went down the drain. I would hate to see something like this happen to anyone else. Me and my little angel will be fine without him. I hope I don't upset you with this message I'm just trying to help. I wish you the best with whatever you decide.
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G.B. answers from Tulsa on June 03, 2009
I think you know him well enough to know what type of financial manager he is. You age is really relative to your situation. If you are both very young then it could just be life experience that is just not there yet, if you are both older, say in your late 20's or 30's then you are both pretty set in your habits of spending and buying.
1. You are not his mother or father, it can backfire on your relationship if you try to "teach" him new habits.
2. What is the money going for and why can't he afford to pay for what he buys? Does he just live above his means? Does he really have a hard time getting a job or not making enough money?
3. I have a couple of friends who got married going into the relationships knowing they would be the bread winners because they had degrees and really good jobs they loved. One took the bill paying on as her job and left him pretty much to do what he wanted with his money, such as paying for cable, his cars and tools to work on them, etc.... The other one sits down on each person's pay days and they pay the bills together with no one being more responsible that the other, it is all "their" money. Both situations work for them. It just takes deciding what you want.
4. Get both of you to a community credit counselor. We found ours at an agency through the local credit agency. We went to classes at the local vo-tech that were set up by the credit counselor, learned to track out money for every penny we spent for a month, the teacher was able to set up payment plans with all the credit cards except Wards to take fees off and let the credit agency make our payments for us, etc...we gave the credit agency a portion of our money each payday and they made the payments, we had to live on the remaining money and it was hard but seeing the credit bills get lower and lower was very rewarding. It was the credit counselors jobs to "get on" to us if our budget was not carried out.
The main thing we got out of the experience was that it could be done, there was one woman there that had divorced and took on all the bills of the marriage. It had been in the mid 30 thousand and she had been working the program for several years and owed less than $10,000 from doing this program. She looked to be in her mid thirties.
If he has student loans then you can file "injured spouse" on your income tax refund. The portion of the money you make can still get a refund and not be touched by the loan companies. I had several thousand dollars in student loans and that is what my husband did each year, he made $50,000+ and I worked for minimum wage, we got all of his tax refund each year because I didn't make really a small percentage of his.
Go into marriage with your eyes open, you know he won't change if these habits aren't addressed. You both need to be able to focus on being happily ever after...not nagging each other about money. Start working on being debt free now. It's never too early in a relationship.
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M.F. answers from Tulsa on June 03, 2009
Hi C.! I will tell you my story, if it helps you, then I am happy that it does. I just want to inform you as best I can so you can make a good, informed decision for yourself.
I was with my ex for almost 10 years. We were married for the last two years of that relationship. When we first started seeing each other, I had asked about his finances. He said that he had made some poor choices in the past but that he had a good handle on them and was resolving them on his own. We kept all of our finances separate, he gave me money each month to pay for his share of bills and household expenses. The money never went far enough as he kept a large portion aside for his debts. We decided we wanted to have a child together and so got married and had our incredible daughter. I discovered one day, as I was going through a file cabinet of his looking for an address for him, a file that was titled "Bills to be Paid." I was thinking to myself, "What is this?" Now I am a VERY trusting person and believed in my ex that he had everything under control. I married him believing this. I looked through it and discovered debt that totaled over $100,000, owed to the IRS, past due child support for his second child, college loans, etc. Freaked me out to say the least. I am a very strict money manager. My credit score is excellent. His, come to find out, is lower than low as you can imagine. I divorced him because of this problem.
During our entire relationship, I got tired of never having money to do anything. We could never take a nice vacation, I could never shop for clothes, could not afford to buy a home, couldn't afford some months to get a haircut! I am not talking extravagant vacations or designer clothes here! I got so tired of working equally as hard or harder than he did, bringing home a good paycheck, and watching it all being put toward bills that I had no part in creating. I just got so tired of it all, no matter how much I loved him. I loved him so very much but after a while, I just got so worn down from it all. Luckily, I had purchased my home before we were married (he couldn't apply for a home loan with me as his credit score was bad, and I had received a large gift from a family member as a down payment), all of our finances were kept separate, etc. When we divorced, I walked away with everything, as I had kept it all separate. This is key!!
I STRONGLY advice you and your fiancee to seek credit counseling. There are organizations that are free, non profit organizations that will help him tremendously. Money is one of those subjects that are so hard to handle along with emotions. You have to separate your heart feelings for him and your brain thought on money matters. You have to treat money like a business. I follow that motto, "It's nothing personal, it's just business." It may seem cold, but there are very few things in life that are so completely impossible to overcome than mountains of debt. It is something that will nag at you and nibble away at your relationship. Hurt feelings happen. Resentment happens.
So, it is a question you have to pose to yourself. Do you want to live this way for the rest of your life? Only you can make that decision, but make the decision based on information. Inform yourself, seek counselors through church, organizations, etc. Gather as much information as you can, then decide. Whatever you decide will be the right decision for you.
Sorry for the long explanation. I believe knowledge is power.
Good luck!!
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L.B. answers from Jonesboro on June 03, 2009
I am sure a lot of people are telling you this, but keep your name and your credit SEPARATE from his...Don't put things in both your names. I was in a similar situation and we put the house in my name, the cars, etc. And my husband worked on getting his credit score up in the meantime. Good luck!
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