T.B. asks from Detroit, MI on December 02, 2008
How to Manage Anger When Responding to 16 Year Old Son
On 07/12/08 I posted a message about "Moving out of state_problems with in laws" and now the problem is with my son.
He was ok with moving out of state before when we first decided, but now he is so against it. He often tells my other children (10,7) negative views of moving to discourage them and take away their excitement. When ever the topic comes up or my other children ask me a question about moving or the new state my son then contradicts what ever I say about the answer.
I then find myself in a heated discussion with him and explaining about our choices for the family which we think are good for us. I don't feel I need to keep doing this. He even states that I am convinving my husband to agree to move, which is not the case. I find myself defending our choice all the time even when my husband is around, and he says nothing, he will not speak up.
All my huband says is to stop arguing with him about the issue because he doesn't wan't to hear all the bickering, and not to worry about what his family thinks.
I am wondering where this new attitude is coming from. Could it be my inlaws attitude he has adopted? Is he afraid? Or are there other issues?
My mother in law has told my children back in the summer that we will possibly be homeless, that once we get there we will not be able to find jobs, not have anywhere to live and will be back here where we came from.
They have not visited her since because of this type of behavior from her, I do not want my children to be subject to this negativity or involved in their thoughts against our move.
Although the ecomomy has changed alot since we first decided to move, it is still on our agenda to be relocated by the begining of the school year Aug. 2009 as we are carefully planning.
My husband has a history of not being involved in any problems by being silent no matter who is involved. I am going nuts, it's enough with my inlaws and now with my son. I am just angry & tired of it and starting to have resentful feelings. My son really gets me heated about the situation and I am tired of all these opinions and defending decisions as it is stressing me out.
How do I handle this issue with my son and keep my joy?
Help, help, help........
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So What Happened?™
Thanks everyone for all your wonderful comments and support. I have alot I am taking from the messages to start a healing process with my son. I will talk to him, and also hold a family meeting to discuss the research I did months ago. I realize now that even though our family had been to Florida several times, and after comming back from Florida in March of this year my husband and I said we wanted to move there.
Immediately I started doing research on everything after talking with my husband and children and all were in agreement on the move. My teenage son even asked if there was an art school there, because he attends one here. My husband and I returned to Florida in August for one week to check out neighborhoods with lots of children their age and schools I had researched. We covered the whole central area while we were there.
Upon returning home I did tell my son about the art school, and talked briefly with the kids about our findings (homes, cultures, etc..), but what I realize now after all comments is that I did not include them in the research/planning and shared nothing else about the move or what life would be like completely and never showed them some video footage I recorded.
I also realize that now as things become more of a reality and not just an idea, that maybe it's beginning to sink in with my son and that his feelings are now uncertain. I realize he has friends, a school, a whole social system that will disappear and for a while he probably had plans/ideas about graduating, going to prom, planning for college that I didn't take so so serious, and these things are alot more important to him than I thought.
My husband and I will reassure our children and talk to them about our findings in detail of how life will be in the new place pro/cons. I will also let my husband know how important it is to express how I am not pushing him to move and it is also what he wants at this family meeting.
Kellie N, I will take a deep breath, say a prayer and most importantly, don't let the other children see me fight with him, and to go one step further, the bickering stops now! No more will I go there.
Deb S, yes I forget we control our buttons, thanks for reminding me. I just got so caught up.
Anjela F, you are so right, my husband just has a non-confrontational personality which is no different than when I married him. I guess I am guilty of expecting your mate to change, but this personality of his does cause problems he doesn't realize. This is an area I need to pray about.
Thanks again everyone for your help and support. I will update about the talk with my son and our family meeting after this weekend.
You all have been a blessing, thanks.......
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R.G. answers from Detroit on December 03, 2008
I would simply tell him that you do not want to hear anything else about it and that if he would like to help you choose a new home than he is more than welcome to talk to you. Until then, tell him that he needs to keep his negativity to himself.
Best wishes to you and good luck! :)
A.R. answers from Detroit on December 03, 2008
I remember my parents moving us when I was a child - and most of my parent's friend were also moved as my father's office was closing and everyone was being relocated. The teenagers among us (I was a bit younger than they) had the hardest time as their friends are a such an intense part of life at that age. Assuming that he has been in the same school system for a while he probably had plans/ideas about graduating, going to prom, planning for college, etc with these friends and the idea of having to fit into a whole new group some place else is overwhelming - and boys are less likely to be able to say that.
My guess is that his behavior is out of fear and lack of control - and that he wants to stay and if he can convince the family not to move, either by his own behavior or by getting his siblings on his side, then he will be willing to try!
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K.H. answers from Detroit on December 05, 2008
Dear T. B, My name is K.. I have found from my own
experience that if I would even engage in a conversation
with my teenage son after a decesion was made it would be utter bedlam-like you have experienced. He would wear me down completely. I understand your delima. I have found out
he was purposly pressing my buttons to cause trouble.
I am a Born Again Christian now I have learned so much.
The main thing is to pray, pray, and pray some more. Prayer
changes things. Stomie Ormartin has a beautiful book
regarding "PRAYING FOR YOUR CHILDREN". She also has a book
"PRAYING FOR YOUR HUSBANDS". Your son is very frightened
about this move, new surroundings, having to acclament to a
new school, etc. Perhaps, when your son starts in aguing, lower your voice very softly. This is a must!!! Do not raise your voice. In a very loving, kind tone address his concerns.
(Pray that the Lord will help you as you speak to your son
and prepare his heart to listen and see the wisdom in the
situation.) Be on the same page as your husband. Ask your husband if the whole family could have a meeting (PRAY FOR IT) everyone could be on the same page.He needs to speak to his Mom by himself, too. "This is what the family will be doing, .....,.," Be very decisive about it
in your kind, FIRM, soft voice. We don't need to have this
conversation again!!" If your son tries to get the agrument
going again (They are trying to see where our borders are by
going on and on.Your husband is right, perhaps one more family meeting then NO MORE.) When he wants to borrow the car or go here or there, "Sorry dear, your dad and I asked to
not to fuss about moving. You know our decision. The case
is closed. When you respect that rule, then you can go out."
I know that is not a easy thing to do, but Jesus will help you. I did hear about a new book "I am your parent, not
your friend. Go to CBN.com to see more about that.
Hope this helps. I'll be praying for your family.
God Bless, K.
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K.N. answers from Grand Rapids on December 03, 2008
I am having the problem of responding to an angry 15 year old. It has taken a bit of time, but have come to the decision that I will NOT fight with him anymore. I will calmly answer what has been said and if he wants to fight, I will either leave the room or ask him to leave.
Maybe in your case, he needs to know that you have jobs and a home waiting for you. If that is not enough, then you need to let him know that there is no use fighting, the decision has been made and fighting will not change that.
Take a deep breath, say a prayer and most importantly, don't let the other children see you fight with him. The fighting will cause anxiety on their part and that is the last thing you need right now. Make sure you reassure them that you will all be going and there is no need to worry.
Good luck - teens are a handful, but can be fun too.
Remember, take a deep breath and say a prayer asking God to keep your tounge when you speak to him.
K.
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D.S. answers from Grand Rapids on December 03, 2008
T., yes a difficult situation, but first of all, some teens like to push buttons, he knows if he talks that way about moving, it gets you angry, some teens like to make us parents angry so it gives them an excuse to act the way they do, first of with teens, and with any child make your yes mean yes and your no mean no, keep firm with things that matter to you, what is hard to realize is that when they push buttons, we forget we control our buttons, they know exactly what button to push to make us go off, what you have to learn to do is not allow yourself to go off, dont yell, dont get angry, this is very hard to do, but it does work, and eventually get to work through the wall they built up, if he pushes the negative move button all you have to do is respond with kind words, and not yell, dont allow that button to be pushed, just say, when we talked about moving you were all for it, what changed now ? also you can say , we have all ready discussed this, its not an argument, and walk away, keep your cool, dont make it into an argument, im not blaming you , or saying its your fault, but as an adult, we need to be the ones to keep our cool, cut the string off your buttons, you control wether or not they are pushed, you really do, as far as your husband, its ok, to leave him out of it, he dont like to hear the argument, and if you push him into helping you he wont knwo how to help and it could make matters worse, ive been in that situation, and it is very hard for teens to move, and up root from their freinds, so understand why he might be angry, and do some research about th area you are moving to, check into the schools, have him help you find a house, or apt. let them be involved, just keep the positive, and moves are hard on everyone, and especially hard, on teens, so just keep plugging along, keep your cool, and get involved, and find out the bottom line, of his anger, you have gotten this far, and you are to be commended, keep going and keep being positive, D. s
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L.N. answers from Benton Harbor on December 02, 2008
It's very likely that his only problem is that he is 16! My son is almost 18 and thinks adults are the root of all of his problems. He thinks we know nothing about finances, parenting, education, etc...I could go on forever. Luckily, he is *starting* to come out of it and learn that *perhaps* we might know a thing or two about adulthood since he is facing becoming an 'independent' adult very soon...(sooner than he thinks if the attitude doesn't change). A few things I have learned, teenagers will argue until they drive you crazy, without having any grounds whatsoever for the argument! Also, there is no way to make him see your reasoning...he doesn't want to. To an extent, you don't owe your teen an explanation. You are the parents and your decisions stand. Tell him in no uncertain terms that he is NOT to try to influence the smaller kids and doing so will result in consequenses...and then stand your ground. Don't let your mood be influenced by your teen's attitude. Stand firm WITH your husband or you will be miserable for sure. I often feel like I am furious while talking to my teen, only to turn around and put on a big smile when talking to my hubby...it seems like I am turning my emotions on/off (and I sort of am) but it's more just an outright refusal to let my teenagers attitude ruin my day!
Good luck...and remember that when the kids are gone you and hubby will be left to each other's company in a marriage that you have either nurtured or neglected! Make sure it's the former!
~L.
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M.W. answers from Kalamazoo on December 03, 2008
Sorry about this stressful situation. Teenagers often have more then one reason for their behavior, and it never is logical to us adults, that's just the nature of it.
Its possible that he's enjoying the negative attention he gets from you over this situation. I'd suggest sitting him down and letting him know (during a time when this isn't an issue) that you are no longer going to argue with him about it and you expect him to be respectful of that. If he brings it up, ask him to go to his room until he's ready to drop the subject. Its not a decision that is negotiable and he is being disrespectful and rude.
I'd stick to my guns about this until he gets the point. Don't argue. It will always come down to the infamous "I'm the mom and you're the kid" senario, so since its been explained to him over and over and there is no new information to pass on, he needs to deal with it.
Yes, keeping your family away from inlaws who are negative is a good thing. If they want contact with the kids, they need to be respectful of your family's decisions.
Best wishes!
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K.V. answers from Detroit on December 03, 2008
Hi, I think that you are right to distance yourself from the negative family. Also, you really do need to forget about his family and what they think. You can have a discussion with them directly "I understand that you don't want us to move and you may be right, it may not work out, however, we have made this decision and we are not going to change. The negative things you have been saying are hurting them. You can either agree to enjoy your grandchildren now and not say discouraging and negative things or you can choose to not have contact with them."
As far as your son, he is old enough for you to sit down and have a conversation with him. Explain to him why you are moving and that you do have a plan. Let him know that he will be taken care of and that he will be able to call his friends whenever he wants. I can imagine that he is afraid, he is afraid of the consequences that were planted in his head, he is afraid of switching schools and making new friends, he is afraid of losing touch with his family and everything else. Let him know that whatever he says or does, will not change the decision that you have made, and that he now has the choice of helping make the move easy and happy or of losing priveleges.
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S.A. answers from Detroit on December 03, 2008
I think you son is just scared about moving away from his friends and the things that he is used to. This is a very tough age to move. Don't forget, when you do move next year he will be a junior in high school. The younger kids will have an easier adjustment based upon their ages. You need to discuss what your son is feeling with him. You also should tell all the kids that the reason your in-laws are telling them negative things is that they do not want you to move because they will miss you.
R.G. answers from Detroit on December 03, 2008
I would simply tell him that you do not want to hear anything else about it and that if he would like to help you choose a new home than he is more than welcome to talk to you. Until then, tell him that he needs to keep his negativity to himself.
Best wishes to you and good luck! :)
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