V.B. asks from Huntington Beach, CA on January 07, 2010
How to Help My 8 Year Old with Math
My daughter has never been really truly interested in school. She can read but she doesn't like to. She gets easily distracted and NEVER finishes anything on time. Homework for a 3rd grader is supposed to take a grand total of about a half hour but she is working on hers well into the late afternoon. Her biggest issue is math. I got a multiplication sheet sent home this week that was a timed test. There were 60 problems on the sheet and she got a total of 3 done and only 2 correct. What can I do to get math to click in her head? It took my sister until she was in 7th grade and finally had a wonderful teacher to get through to her. I never really had a problem with school and do not know how to relate to her issue. Most of the time I just get frustrated and I can see her withdraw when that happens. Her teacher is frustrated too and I am afraid they will try and have her held back at the end of the year. What have any of you done in this position? Are there any games her sister (older and excells in school) or myself can play with her to get her mind moving faster? Thanks in advance!
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D.H. answers from Los Angeles on January 10, 2010
Math was a huge struggle for me and also for my daughter. Once she memorizes her times tables things will get easier for her. Multiplication is a new concept to her this year in 3rd grade. She should not be expected to know it overnight. You may have to work with her teacher to get her homework time cut down. Ask her teacher what is the most important things that she needs to finish (if the teacher says all of it, she is not willing to work with you). You need to break things down into chunks. She needs a break right after school before homework starts, she comes from learning and then has to do more, it's hard for her and most kids.
Also a great multiplication website is www.multiplication.com there are lots of fun math games to help her learn her times tables. That can be an incentive to get homework done. Also flashcards are a necessity. This is something that her sister can do with her. Take each number set at a time (ie., 2's, 3's, 4's, 5', etc.) Don't do the big stack and have her getting more frustrated. When she gets the 2's and 3's down, mix them together and then work on the 4's, but continuing to review the 2's and 3's. She will learn if there is less frustration. Sometimes a note back to the teacher saying this was just not possible this evening, we'll try again tomorrow will be acceptable. As long as the teacher knows that effort is put in at home, then this should be ok. Good luck!
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C.C. answers from Los Angeles on January 08, 2010
Hey V.,
There are some great CDs out there that teach multiplication tables. Two that I can recall off-hand are Multiplication Rock and Multiplication Rap.
I would also suggest buying flash cards and starting with just the ones, then add the twos once she masters the ones. Continue to add one set at a time as she masters them and she'll eventually have them all.
I speak from personal experience when I say that those that struggle in math just have to memorize the facts, but once they are memorized they are remembered forever.
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B.H. answers from Los Angeles on January 08, 2010
OOOHHH fun games to get kids interested in school! My specialty. I was a special needs teacher for over 10 years...I had to be creative to get my kids to want to learn.
BEAT THE COMMERCIAL – works for math facts, definition, vocabulary almost everything.
Your child has to watch one hour of regular TV (you know the kind with commercials). You write the facts on cue cards (question on front answer on back) then place them ON TOP of the TV.
Each commercial she gets up from the couch and tries to get through them before the show is back on.
If she gets it right, it goes in a pile on the right, if it is wrong it goes on the left. Once the show starts put the cards back on the TV and go sit down.
The object is to get through all the flashcards correctly during the commercial break.
**FYI the brain is constantly processing the info during the TV show. TV is a very passive event, so the brain looks for stimulation elsewhere. If you are feeding your brain info every 15 mins, the brain ABSORBS that info much more readily.
HOUSE OF CARDS
Please cue cards all over the house (4 X 6 = 24 – the full fact). On the fridge, walls, bathroom mirror, door, everywhere. Her brain will automatically read the facts as she is walking around the house doing regular stuff. Every week you have to move the facts around otherwise the brain starts seeing them as “background” and dismisses it as unimportant.
MATH WAR
You need a deck of cards.
Deal out the entire deck to 2 people.
You both lay out 2 cards each.
Multiply them and highest number wins the cards.
Object, win all the cards.
**Variation: addition and subtraction war works too.
READING GAMES
**Please note that kids will read what interests them. You will have to work with her to find what interests her.
BACKWARDS DAY
Pick up a comic book or something that she likes to read and start at the back page. Read from the last word to the first without giggling. **For more fun, try reading the words backwards. **This shows that reading can be fun and what your child won’t know is you are actually training her brain to see whole words and to decipher meaning from context.
KARAOKE
Yes this is reading! If you have Wii you can get a Karaoke game.
DON’T FORGET THE LYRICS
Go on line, find a fav song and print the lyrics.
Cut some key phrases out of the song and have her fill them in. First just by memory, second by listening to the song. **This activates both quadrants of the brain and will actually increase her reading speed.
I have many more games, but these few will get you started. If you need anything else, keep my contact (____@____.com) and connect with me. My mission in life is to empower families to live a healthier lifestyle, to teach them how to play more, and to inspire them to live a life of their dreams while creating independent financial freedom. Anything I can do to help you would be my pleasure.
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R.J. answers from San Diego on January 07, 2010
We homeschool... and games are definitely a BIG part of our curriculum. As is montessori math (Ds7 sees numbers as their pieces, rather than through memorization, so the manipulative -> equation aspect of montessori is killer. The Montessori album we use is actually free online, complete with pictures along with the instructions, and is several hundred pages long.
the games we play:
- ClueFinders -Ds7's favorite- (ClueFinders 3rd Grade is actually the first one, although there are actually many individual adventures along with the 3rd grade/ 4th grade etc)
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss?url=search-alias%3Daps&...
- Carmen SanDiego Math Dectective
(( There are a ton of math computer games on Amazon between $10-20. The 2 above are our favorites to date))
- http://pbskids.org/cyberchase/?campaign=go_shows
- Dominos (particularly 5 up)/ Monopoly (money is mostly multiplication and division) / 21-blackjack
Our actual (non-game) curriculum:
http://www.borenson.com/tabid/933/Default.aspx (Algebra)
http://www.freemontessori.org/?page_id=9 (Elementary Group 1 & 2 : Ages 6-9, & 9-12)
Another thing to check out would be Singapore Math (this is left to right math), their method (top notch, they're used by most of the eastern & western world except the US, although many exclusive private schools, a few public schools, and a LOT Homeschoolers in the US use it). It requires an entirely different way of THINKING about math and numbers. Just as an example 6275 + 3612 in regular (our) math looks like this:
6275 6275
3612 3612
____ ____
---7 --87 etc. You keep filling in from the right
In Singapore math you say... okay 6000 + 3000 is 9000... 600 +200 is 800... so the answer is AROUND 9800. The first estimate is really important, because instead of finding out the answer at the end you've got a good idea. You then do the same for the following numbers... 75 +10 = 85... plus 2 is 87. So the answer is 9887. The whole concept is to get a basic idea, and then get down to details... which with practice... becomes very very mental. It also focuses on understanding what's ASKED (so knowing that adding means this, and fractions mean that, and squaring means... etc. By translating math into english (well, in our country) in engages more than one part of the brain at a time, and builds a stronger foundation than our traditional approach with goes for details with *surprise!* the answer at the end (and if you goofed on a detail you're waaaay off). US math also focuses on how to do the formulas instead of how Singapore focuses on what the formulas mean.
LASTLY... Dyscalculia is the cousin to Dyslexia. People with dyscalculia do to numbers what Dyslexics to to letters. So too, there is another lesser known disorder known as Dysgraphia... which manifests as being able to read (numbers and letters) just FINE... but there's a disconnect when trying to write them down. It's not a fine motor issue, or a comprehension issue, but a miscommunication between the visual cortex and the motor cortex. Dysgraphics can write, but it usually looks horrid, and it takes them aaaaaaaaages and ages. The quick fix for Dysgraphics is either a computer or (slower) a stamp pad.... as opposed to Dyscalculia which needs as much intervention as Dyslexia.
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D.H. answers from Los Angeles on January 10, 2010
Math was a huge struggle for me and also for my daughter. Once she memorizes her times tables things will get easier for her. Multiplication is a new concept to her this year in 3rd grade. She should not be expected to know it overnight. You may have to work with her teacher to get her homework time cut down. Ask her teacher what is the most important things that she needs to finish (if the teacher says all of it, she is not willing to work with you). You need to break things down into chunks. She needs a break right after school before homework starts, she comes from learning and then has to do more, it's hard for her and most kids.
Also a great multiplication website is www.multiplication.com there are lots of fun math games to help her learn her times tables. That can be an incentive to get homework done. Also flashcards are a necessity. This is something that her sister can do with her. Take each number set at a time (ie., 2's, 3's, 4's, 5', etc.) Don't do the big stack and have her getting more frustrated. When she gets the 2's and 3's down, mix them together and then work on the 4's, but continuing to review the 2's and 3's. She will learn if there is less frustration. Sometimes a note back to the teacher saying this was just not possible this evening, we'll try again tomorrow will be acceptable. As long as the teacher knows that effort is put in at home, then this should be ok. Good luck!
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C.C. answers from Los Angeles on January 08, 2010
Hey V.,
There are some great CDs out there that teach multiplication tables. Two that I can recall off-hand are Multiplication Rock and Multiplication Rap.
I would also suggest buying flash cards and starting with just the ones, then add the twos once she masters the ones. Continue to add one set at a time as she masters them and she'll eventually have them all.
I speak from personal experience when I say that those that struggle in math just have to memorize the facts, but once they are memorized they are remembered forever.
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J.B. answers from Los Angeles on January 08, 2010
ok now im going to give you a very different opinion. you have gotten a lot of great advice but i did not see this. with that being said have you ever thought shes just bored and not being challenged? when i was in school i almost refused to do work that didnt challenge me. i loved math but soon got bored with my grade approved work. for example in 2nd grade i was doing the 3rd grade math and when i got to 4th it leveled out for me because it wasnt the same thing being drilled over and over. i also got very distracted my teachers explained it to my mom like she would stare off into space and we knew we had lost her. sit and talk with her and see why she gets so distracted and such. maybe shower her how to do bigger math equaisions like 9s which can be done on fingers. (ie 9x6 hold up 10 fingers and count over 6 put the 6th finger down now you have 5 and 4 which would be 54 so 9x6=54 and so on you can do it all the way up to 9x10). i hope this helps good luck :)
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S.I. answers from Los Angeles on January 08, 2010
Find out if another teacher at her school can go over it with her. Sometimes it just requires a different explanation. If no other teacher is available ask about internet resources. Our school gives the kids access to math resources online. They're given a username / password...
Multiplication is all memorization though. It's just like the alphabet. Make sure she has the tables down and go from there.
Good luck
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C.R. answers from Honolulu on January 09, 2010
Hi V.,
It sounds like you have a fun loving active daughter! I taught for almost 20 years and had this problem with students and math often. Math is a subject that is difficult to have a child engage in or rather become an active participant.
One fun activity that children enjoyed was with a deck of cards. All you need to do is shuffle and divide into half. You receive half and she receives half of the cards. Hold cards upside down in the palm of one hand and she does the same, say go and you eack slap the card down face up and she gives the answer to the "MULTIPLICATION" problem. For example, you turn over a 6 and she turns over a 3 she would give outloud the answer or 18. The face cards count as 10 in value. After she gets the hang of it and faster then she will compete against you as to who can give the answer the fastest. Who ever answers correctly first keeps those two cards. When you run out of the cards, count who has kept the most cards and they are the winner!
Hope this is helpful. She will enjoy the extra one on one time spent with you too.
C.
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R.S. answers from Los Angeles on January 08, 2010
You got some great advice and suggestions already, but may I add: Make the connection, and make it fun. Kids often see math as abstract at best, and useless at worst. Of course, it is quite the opposite, it is very important! I'm suggesting you point out where math applies in little everyday things, like when you handle money, and when you are on the road (numbers and sets of cars, etc.). Challenge her with little math problems (questions) and try to build both her interest and confidence. Also, if you have time to look at her school studies, develop some simple Flash Cards that are related. That is put little problems on there (Q on front, Answer on back) that she can do quickly and reinforce the basics she is learning. It doesn't have to be complicated, math is largely about practice and building of skills incrementally.
Best wishes... x10!
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