L.C. asks from Dover, DE on August 27, 2010
How Old Were You or Was Your Daughter?
My daughter came home from school saying that there were girls in her class that were getting their nails prefessionally done, like acryllics, and she wanted hers done. I said, "No" because she hasn't even hit double digits in birthdays and that seems crazy to me. But it got me to wondering when IS ok for some things. So what I want to know is how old were you or how old was your daughter when she could wear makeup and how much? Was it all at once or in stages? Shave legs and underarms? Paint nails? Dating? What was the family dress code?
I have a daughter who is starting to hit the "tween" years. I was very sheltered and our rules were pretty strict. We were Pentecostal (but not the kind that can't shave or wear makeup of cut hair) and my dad was a minister. So, I'm not sure if my experiences were reasonable or "normal". But I don't want to go the other direction and allow too much too soon and then wonder when she's 15 why she's acting like Britney Spears.
So how old were you or how old was your daughter and what have been your experiences?
Thanks for your responses
L.
So What Happened?™
Thanks for all the responses. I wasn't allowed to shave my legs until the 9th grade because my mom said I didn't need to since the hair was blond, but it was so embarassing. Especially considering the fact that I went to private school and had to wear dresses 6 days a week between church and school. Even when I went to public school in 11th grade I wasn't allowed to wear shorts to school no matter how modest. I was allowed to wear makeup once I was in Jr. High but it had to be subtle. I wasn't allowed to go on ANY kind of date until I was 16, and couldn't go to the mall with friends until I was 14 or 15. My mom was afraid someone would offer me a sticker with acid on it. I am trying to be more senisitve and less over protective of my daughter but I don't want to go to far in the other direction. She gets to wear clear or lightly tinted lipgloss and perfume. She is a girly-girl so this is a good compromise. She doesn't want to be grownup but she likes to feel pretty and feminine.
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K.O. answers from Atlanta on August 27, 2010
I never did the makeup thing - still don't. but I guess I would "allow" light makeup for my daughter in middle school if she was very interested.
I had to start shaving my under arms around age 8 (basically wenever they start having hair). I started shaving legs at 10 becuase I had very think, dark haired legs and I was embarrassed in summer in comparison to the other girls.
Paint nails - whenever she shows interest. A lot of girls think it's fun. As far as professional acryllics, I'd let my daughter do that in high school for special occasions (homecoming dance, etc) and as a regular habit - once she was able to pay for it with a job.
Dating - I'd be okay with big groups going to the movies or something in middle school, but would prefer to hold off on the one on one dating with my kids until high school.
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K.C. answers from Dallas on August 27, 2010
Painting Nails: Age: 6
Period: Age 12
Shaving: Age 12 1/2
Makeup: 14 (but my step-mom felt bad cause I was plagued by acne so bad then)
Dress Code: I wasn't allowed to wear tight clothing, "goth" type (lol but my little sister tried), no navel. no short skirts.
Dating: 16, when I got my car. But I had a specific time limit, and they had to meet him and everything.
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R.J. answers from Seattle on August 27, 2010
Painting Nails: Age 7 (not acrylics, just nail polish, I didn't get acrylics until I left home)
Period: Age 9
Shaving: Age 9/10 (my mum "showed me how" a few years later, but I was on swimteam... since she wouldn't let me I just shaved in secret)
Makeup: Highschool, except for chapstick
Dress Code: No navels. Everything else was fine.
Dating: Eh... iffy. There was no hard and fast rule, because all of my friends were guys. My parents expected me to tell them if at any point a friendship was progressing into "maybe want to date". My first *real* date was at 17.
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P.W. answers from Dallas on August 27, 2010
My mother was not strict, but she did have rules. I was the third daughter so you can imagine the rules may have gotten a bit softer for me.......BUT, I still was allowed the grown up stuff only in stages.
Personally, I think your daughter is a bit young, but my perspective may be off because I have boys and times are changing.
Dating........I assume you don't mean now! In my experience with my boys the kids do start "going out" about 5th grade, which just means at school they kind of claim each other. Not really dating. Some parents seem to be in a bigger hurry to push their kids into relationships more than others. My thought wass to try and keep them back until 15 or 16. They really aren't ready emotionally and you don't want to let them get pushed into something they aren't able to handle. However, you can have kids over to your house (where you can keep an eagle eye) if they try to push the envelope. Until they are about 17 or older (depending on maturity) I believe you keep a close watch. Calling other parents to confirm what's going on when they are somewhere else,etc...
I don't think I would let her wear makeup before she is 12. Shave the legs before 11ish. The nails is another story......This is fairly innocent and could be fun for you to do with your daughter. Professionally, and acrylics is another story. I wouldn't allow the permanent stuff at this age for sure. In my mind if you went together to have your nails done once in awhile for a special occasion that would be fun (not acrylics!). But even if she was sixteen I would tell her she needed to save her own money if she wanted to have her nails done regularly, or if she wanted something like acrylics that I wasn't comfortable with. This would be my "picking my battles." I don't like it. I don't wanna pay for it, but it's your choice on your dime in this case. I don't care what the other girls are doing. To me it's just a lesson in finance/choices.
I hope this helps L.. My advice would be to go with your gut, pick your battles and stand your ground.
Best of Luck!
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D.K. answers from State College on August 27, 2010
We never really had any set rules or ages for things in our house. I was never really into make up, nails, etc. I painted my nails myself a few times in middle school-high school. Free nail polish with a pair of flip flops, but I never bought nail polish. I have only ever had them done once and that was for my wedding. I had them done the day before and they were already chipping away by the wedding.
Shaving I think I started around 6th grade and again it was just kind of when I wanted to. I had an electric razor that got used once, but I grew up using a men's razor and still do. Don't know if it really works better or not, but it means we can use the same blades and just buy one big pack of them.
I didn't date until my senior year of high school. I could have dated younger, my older brother did. I just didn't have much interest. We didn't really have a dress code, I had some spaghetti strapped tanks I wore usually with shorts or jeans. And makeup I still hardly ever wear any and have no clue probably with most of it. If I do it is a little foundation and eye shadow, sometimes eye liner.
I'm sure that I did gymnastics 15-20 hours a week in middle school and high school has something to do with some of these. When you are in the gym 4 hours a night, there really isn't time for much else and I loved being in the gym and practicing. With the nails the longer ones didn't work to practice, so many of the girls painted their nails, but only one or two ever had acryllics and that was for prom or something similar.
Maybe for now would she be happy with you doing her nails, lip gloss, or picking out a new shirt if she wants to change part of her wardrobe. I think you have it right that a little bit can make both of you happy and then she knows she can talk to you and you can reach a compromise. If her nails are really important to her, maybe you can both go in for a mani and just get them painted. Hope this helps.
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T.F. answers from Dallas on August 27, 2010
It all depends on how you personally choose to balance things. Picking your battles is a big one....some things are not worth the battle.
Open lines of communication are so key. I don't know about boys but girls go through emotional and hormonal changes and sometime I don't think they know which way is up. I remind myself when daughter is in a "mood" that she is growing, LOL. I give her space. Most of the time, she starts talking and I listen
Our daughter is almost 16 yr old. She was shaving in elementary school. I don't put an age on that. My idea is if they are self conscious about something, address it.
We've painted nails and toenails since she was very young. I allowed her to get acrylic nails for the spring formal last year but she had to take them off within 3 days because she plays the violin and you can't have long or acrylic nails to do that. She told me later that she did not like the acrylics. They messed her nails up pretty badly, as they did mine as well and I won't wear them.
I don't have a "dress code" other than no butt cheeks hanging out or shirts too low. She is captain of the cheer squad and held to a higher responsibility at school and that helps me as well :)
Make up,,, she LOVES makeup. She does not wear too much. Actually a couple of moms I know use my daughter as the example of not to much and just enough for their own daughters. She has been asked to help some girls with makeup.
Hair, she does have highlights. This is the 2nd round of highlights and they are not cheap. It is one of those things that is not worth the battle. It is hair.
She has met friends at the mall and movies since 7th grade I guess. We carpool them. She is quite picky with boys and has more boy "friends" than girl friends. She has limited interest in dating. She did have 1 car date with a boy (Senior) about 3 weeks ago.
I think we need to let go (as hard as that is) and let them learn responsibility and independence. I won't always be around to guide her and I try to alllow her as much independence now as possible so she learns. I don't want to be so strict that when she gets to college she goes wild and crazy because she never experienced any of that.
It is a balance, you don't want them growing up too fast, that already happens. I try to cherish each stage.
Good luck!
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K.B. answers from Houston on August 27, 2010
Shaving I will let me daughter start when she becomes self conscious about it and asks to do it (within reason). My daughter is 6 and I've already noticed that she has hairy legs! I don't want her to be embarassed or worried about something that I think is so minor and easily solved so I will let her shave (or use nair or whatever) at the first sign that her leg hair is a problem for her.
Makeup I will let her wear a little bit no earlier than 7th grade. Luckily our elementary school goes through 6th grade and has a no makeup policy so I've got some back up on that one at least until 7th grade :-)! At 7th grade I'd be ok with a little lip gloss and maybe a little powder and blush but it will be subtle and I will absolutely take it away if there are any abuses on this one.
Acrylic nails I don't even do myself so I don't understand why anyone at any age wants them. No offense, but they just seem so cumbersome when I see other women with them and I don't have the time to be constantly getting them touched up. I swear every time I see my mother in law she says, oh I have to go get my nails done, one broke or is chipped. She comes to visit us from Chicago and we have to find her a nail salon because there's always something that needs to be done. Now just painting their natural nails I don't have a problem with as long as it's a relatively neutral color. I'm not going with black or neon colors but a soft pink I'm ok with.
Dating is a tough one. I had my first "boyfriend" in 4th grade. We only saw each other at school and holding hands on the playground was about it. In 7th grade I would meet my boyfriend at the high school football games with other friends and we went to skate night through school together and the school dances. I'd be ok with that for my daughter at that age. Unsupervised dates with just a boy and no other friends probably will wait until high school and we'll need to know the boy before we allow this.
Good luck,
K.
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D.H. answers from Indianapolis on August 27, 2010
Not until I needed to .....for shaving.......so I would say 12 maybe.....as for makeup, not until 8th or 9th grade. And yes, we had the ones who where all prettied up too.......but if your daughter just doesn't look right and it makes her look older than she is or will cause issues with boys being more advanced.....then that is what the issue is here.
I explained to my daughter that if you look and dress a certain way, then boys think certain things......and she was too young for that plus she couldn't handle their attention..............I talked about what other people would think and associate her with things that might not be very nice............
So, stick to your guns, maturity plays a big part in this..........and I don't get my nails done because it's too expensive and on top of that, it's a pain.....they come off, which I've heard hurts and then you have to pay more to get them put back on......not worth the hassle, but then I'm a tom boy, so they wouldn't do me any good anyway.
Good Luck and take care.
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T.T. answers from Dallas on August 27, 2010
For my daughter's 13th birthday I got her her first set of nails. Made it a HUGE deal, invited 2 of her friends along, etc.
Before that tho, I did take her to get a mani/pedi when I could afford to get mine done. They'd clean her nails, moisturize and polish and she'd sit by me while I got my toes done and get her's painted as well. It was our mommy daughter time...I think the first time she was um...maybe 8? 9 maybe.
My daughter was 12 when she started shaving her legs and armpits, she has never worn ALLOT of make up so we were lucky but some moisturizer and maybe some eye liner at 12 or 13 is ok with me. I never colored her hair. I did however put a "wash" in it once to show her what it would look like if she colored it. That was around 15 or so. I simply won't pay for hair color on a teen with perfect hair. She was allowed to group date when she was 14 or 15...but that consisted of me takin her and dropping her off and no car dates til she was 16 as that is a right of passage and something to look forward to. And she never went out of the house in some thing that was inappropriate AND I never let her take a backpack with her ANYWHERE because her friends would pack a "change of clothes" in them and well...what you leave in better be what you come home in.
Now I know that sounds strict but I have a VERY open relationship with my older children and I have never been afraid of them doing something out of line but being human as they are, didn't give them the opportunity to do so either.
Of course, she is YOUR daughter...and only YOU know what her limits should be. Mine are just axamples of how I handled things...and she'll be 18 in January and has turn out to be an AWESOME young adult. Maybe I did something right...lol
I'm sending good thoughts your way.
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L.M. answers from Dover on August 27, 2010
I was allowed to wear makeup very early and don't plan to allow my little girl to do the same. The norm these days should not be the norm so I am going to offer my suggestions instead.
It is important to take care of their skin early (hard to start that habit later) so before allowing makeup, they need to learn to take care of their skin properly...tween years are perfect for this. A regular manicure is ok with appropriate nail color (at any age). Dress code can be stylish but if it is revealing, an undershirt or leggings is required.
There is my two cents...hope it helps you.
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K.N. answers from Austin on August 27, 2010
For mama/daughter bonding, I've taken my 4 yo to get her toes polished once a month this summer. We don't do the pedi/mani... just a "polish change". (costs $6). Yes, I could paint her own toes but I'm currently preggers and bending down isn't comfortable. Besides, she likes to "go" somewhere and pick out the color.
I wouldn't want my tween daughter to get fake nails. Oy! Silly! The chemicals ruin the nails underneath and make them so weak/prone to ripping that, when you stop/take them off, you'll have to wait a good 4 months until the new, heathy nail grows out. Also, fake nails are prone to fungal infections if not cared for properly. Honestly, too much maintenance for a little girl and her mama to deal with!
I was allowed to wear a touch of makeup (just blush, a very light pink eye shadow, mascara) in middle school. It was probably so minimal that you could barely tell I had any on. I had a friend whose parents wouldn't let her wear any, so she would put some on in the school bathroom and wash it off before going home.... I don't think its helpful to be so strict on make-up that your child figures out ways to sneak around the rules. Better to compromise yourself (and teach your child compromise) that to encourage her to figure out "other ways".
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