T.N. asks from Waukesha, WI on July 29, 2011
How Much Freedom Do I Give My 7 Year Old?
My daughter just turned 7 in June. We live in an apartment with no back yard. I just had a baby in January and me and my partner only have one car to share which usually leaves me and my children sitting in our tiny apartment with nothing to do. there are a few parks close to my house, just across one street that i have been contemplating letting my seven year old walk to by herself as it is difficult for me to take her there with my finicky baby in the stroller. My gut tells me not to as you can never trust your child to be safe without your supervision, even though i know my daughter is fully capable of finding her way there and back and making good choices while she is away... to make this decision even more difficult, I have issues getting her to school, about 1.5 miles away from home across two busy streets with streetlights when my partner has to take the car to work at 430 a.m. MY PARTNER ACTUALLY BELIEVES that she should be allowed to take herself to school because "she knows the way" which she does, but i'm really not concerned with that i'm more concerned with someone taking her. I have already been letting her go outside in the lot to play by herself as long as i can see her, and she has to use the code at the door to be let in as i dont' trust her not to lose a key to get back in. Even though i allow this i still feel that THIS is dangerous even though i can see/hear her right outside my two story window... there are no children in the area as far as i can tell because the parks around the house are usually vacant and there are never any children her age in the lot, i find my self asking "where are all the 7-year-olds?" so going to the park/the school with a buddy is out of the question... right now my question is should i let my daughter go across the street to the park by herself with a cell phone? am i being unreasonable as it seems everyone is making me out to be? i know lots of kids go out and play by themselves, my sister in law lets her soon to be nine year old have free reign of her greenfield,(milwaukee) residential area, i know lots of kids walk to school by themselves... should i wait until my daughter is legal age (12) before i allow her to do this? when is an appropriate age to allow a child to go to the park by them self?
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so first off let me just say that some of the rude responses i have gotten from this has made me seriously consider leaving this site.
second, after reading my question again i still do not get where people think that i am seriously considering this... i say over and over again that i am leaning towards keeping her with me, and never once said that I MYSELF was considering letting her walk to school by herself... "my partner actually believes..." "am i being unreasonable" "Even though i allow this i still feel that THIS is dangerous" "i'm more concerned with someone taking her" "My gut tells me not to as you can never trust your child to be safe without your supervision"
sounds to me like i don't agree, but i guess people will believe whatever they want in order to make someone out to be a bad guy?
Thank you Dina R from Minneapolis for actually reading my question <3
"You sound like you have good judgement and just need some outside opinion to confirm what you already know. so that's my opinion." -Dina R
i was appalled that my PARTNER who DOES have a B.S. in criminal justice, considered all this to be a good idea and was trying to get some back up as we were arguing about it... i need another car and since he is the one who makes those decisions... i have to convince him why i need one and he just doesn't want to spend the money if he doesn't have to.... which IS totally out of line and DOES make me very angry fyi... and yes, he HAS seen the movie TAKEN.... we watched it together and i ACTUALLY brought the movie up and he said "it's just a movie".... (bangs head on wall)
third i think i wasn't clear enough about the fussy baby, not that it matters, but just to make a point... she's a very mild mannered non fussy baby... until i put her in a car seat or stroller.... then she screams and screams until i get her out... she may have motion sickness, or a possible case of claustrophobia.. not sure yet but that is the problem, but it seems to be getting better so it may not even be an issue anymore... a bigger problem now is the heat...
fourth: to answer some more questions.
the school won't help me and there isn't a bus, there is a school every two miles and the bus will only pick up kids from more then two miles away, stupid stupid stupid... i don't know where these mother bears are but i did have this problem at the end of last school year and when asking a mother who lives IN MY APARTMENT COMPLEX who's child is at the SAME SCHOOL and even in the SAME GRADE i was told "just this once, lets not make a habit of it" which left me actually hearing my IQ drop not being able to figure out why she would say something like that...
i was paying someone THIRTY DOLLARS a week... but she was unreliable.
my daughter sure as hell fire WOULD NOT sleep on the way there and WOULD NOT go back to sleep.... she is a morning girl... she wakes up at 7 every morning and has since she was a baby... so i would have to put her to sleep at 6 o clock P.M. the night before so that she could get the recommended 10 hours of sleep and that leaves very little time for homework and dinner.... especially with everything getting pushed off because i have to stop what i'm doing to take care of the baby when my partner is basically working two jobs trying to find a better job then the one he has for obvious reasons... so even though i have considerable difficulty with physical endeavors including knee problems, shin splints and a previous double fusion... i would rather walk the two ish miles then take away my daughter's life... making her go to bed after dinner...
last but not least:i'm still trying to agrue with my partner about taking a cab in the morning, with no success.
i have been taking turns with another mom hosting play dates hoping that maybe it will be ok when i ask her to take my daughter to school three days a week, haven't asked yet... my MOTHER IN LAW (another story completely) actually suggested i let my daughter live with them 45 min away and change schools so she can get there... that's a big fat NO.
i still have the unreliable girl who apparently thought 30 dollars a week AND getting HER OWN child to school every day wasn't really worth her time... i suppose she MIGHT be reliable some of the time... i've been working with the baby in the stroller, and i always have the option to have my partner switch to second shift and then my daughter actually WILL sleep through picking him up from work at 11 at night.... and go back to sleep. which is a last resort because i'm sure his boss isn't going to like it, and he will never see his daughter... as far as waking up at 4 to take him to work.... as i said before my daughter is a morning girl... and i .. have been trying to get myself to a place where i can get up that early and drive and not fall asleep at the wheel with no success, I'm a night person.
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M.!. answers from Phoenix on July 29, 2011
In my opinion the answer is NO. Vacant parks and an unsupervised child? Sounds like a recipe for tragedy to me. My children are 13 & 9 and they can not go to the park and or walk to school alone, it's just not safe. Put the baby in the stroller and walk her, they baby will adapt.
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L.L. answers from Rochester on July 29, 2011
I guess I wouldn't let my children out of my sight like that until they were much older. Things are different than they were when we were growing up. I used to ride my bike around the block at that age, but I would never, EVER let my children do that. I let her play in the backyard by herself, and that's it...and because you don't have one, I say you're going to have to make it work to go to the park with her.
You are not being unreasonable. Don't let a 7 year old go to a park by themselves, please!!!
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J.. answers from Nashville on July 29, 2011
WHAT???
No, none, don't do it.
It is not safe.
It only takes a few sec's for someone to kidnap a child.
Always think - safety first.
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J.K. answers from Sacramento on July 30, 2011
I live in one of the safest communities I know of. From my front gate I could see my kids walking on the sidewalk all the way to school until they turn onto the school grounds. From the sidewalk I can see the park by our house. I am not an alarmist and I don't watch the news, and my opinion of your question is, No, no and no. Crazy things happen all the time everywhere. I would never let my kids play at a park by themselves or walk to school at this age.
Besides the points others have brought up about abductions etc... what if she fell and hit her head? She can't call from her cell phone if she's unconscious. And what fun is it to play in a park by yourself?
Good grief mama. I hate to sound critical, but these excuses of a finicky baby and a 4:30am job and one car just don't fly with me. If there's more to it, I apologize. These are the things we do when we have kiddos. There's no reason to be sitting in a tiny apartment day after day with two kids and nothing to do. First, I bet you could find some really fun things to do inside if you look around on the internet for craft ideas and head out to the dollar store for supplies. Secondly, go to the park with her and the baby! I can't believe that the baby doesn't have some time of day when she's not finicky and it would be tolerable for you to all go. Maybe she's cranky because she's stuck inside! You're missing opportunities to spend good time with your kids. Whether others think you're being unreasonable by NOT letting her play alone/walk alone she's only 7. She probably wants to do things with you. Soon enough she will have friends and be "big enough" to go places without you.
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L.S. answers from Spokane on July 29, 2011
I have a hard time letting my girls (3 and almost 5) play in our private, fully fenced backyard that backs onto a mountain...I can't *imagine* letting them go to the park by themselves in just 2 short years.
I say don't do it. Pack the baby and take her yourself - the fresh air will do you all some good.
As for school? I say you either get yourself another vehicle or plunk the baby in the stroller and walk her there and back. You'd NEVER forgive yourself if something happened to her while walking on her own.
ADDED: After reading the response about 'free range kids' I just have to say that yes, odds are she'd be just fine and yes, it's important to teach our kids to protect themselves as they grow up.....BUT not at the expense of their safety now. Why flirt with disaster? There will be *plenty* of opportunities to let your daughter explore her independance - she's only 7!
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M.!. answers from Phoenix on July 29, 2011
In my opinion the answer is NO. Vacant parks and an unsupervised child? Sounds like a recipe for tragedy to me. My children are 13 & 9 and they can not go to the park and or walk to school alone, it's just not safe. Put the baby in the stroller and walk her, they baby will adapt.
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K.H. answers from Minneapolis on July 30, 2011
ABSOULUTELY DO NOT LET THAT CHILD GO OFF BY HERSELF!!!!
i dont care where you live or how safe it seems-it never is...honestly i cant believe your even asking this simply because of all the child abductions,molesters,hit n runs,bullys..suck it up put finicky baby in stroller an go out as a family-my kids werent allowed out of my sight until they were 10-then had to go together or have a couple buddies.your gonna do what your gonna do-but please really think about it...
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J.C. answers from Cleveland on July 29, 2011
Sorry, but there's no way I'd let my baby girl (she's 8) go to the park alone. Fortunately, I have a 12 yo boy that I can send with her when she rides around our subdivision. But even with her brother, I wouldn't let her go to a park.
I don't know what your town is like, maybe it's very small and safe. But if your park is always empty, that should tell you something.
She should not be going to school alone, either. A mile and a half away?? You are thinking of letting your 7 yo walk there? Where is the bus?? Why aren't you walking her, if there is no bus?
Please don't let her go to the park or to school alone. That's just nuts.
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D.P. answers from Pittsburgh on July 30, 2011
No, no, no.
Get (pay) a helper to get her to school, stay with her while she play or GO WITH her to the lot OR the park.
Get up, out and GO yourself. This is what 2 kids looks like I guess.
Get a PT job, save some cash and get another (old, not pretty) vehicle.
Wow***just to add--your partner has a BS in criminal justice and he thinks this is OK? Weird.
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K.*. answers from Los Angeles on July 29, 2011
I would absolutely not do this with my 6 1/2 year old boy and we live in a very safe neighborhood... N.E.V.E.R., no exceptions! Pack that baby up and go with. Sure it's not fun for you, but your daughter will be forever grateful.
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L.L. answers from Rochester on July 29, 2011
I guess I wouldn't let my children out of my sight like that until they were much older. Things are different than they were when we were growing up. I used to ride my bike around the block at that age, but I would never, EVER let my children do that. I let her play in the backyard by herself, and that's it...and because you don't have one, I say you're going to have to make it work to go to the park with her.
You are not being unreasonable. Don't let a 7 year old go to a park by themselves, please!!!
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