How Can Parents Be Held Accountable for Their Elementary Child Bullying Others?

Updated on November 20, 2010
K.B. asks from Dulles, VA
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My child is not currently being bullied. NOT IF, but HOW does a school hold parents accountable for their child's actions? This was another mom's comment on a different post. Has anyone seen a policy on this or seen it happen?

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D.P.

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I completely agree with Martha. SCHOOLS need to put some teeth in their "no-tolerance for bullying" policies and not just have them as a CYA thing.

If the child was expelled, fined, etc., THEN the parents will take notice if their child is, in fact, a bully.

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I completely agree with Martha. SCHOOLS need to put some teeth in their "no-tolerance for bullying" policies and not just have them as a CYA thing.

If the child was expelled, fined, etc., THEN the parents will take notice if their child is, in fact, a bully.

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T.F.

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This is in response to the post about how they can't see how the parents are to blame. I've witnessed a number of parents not disciplining their kids when they are younger and it's first starting. I've heard the excuses, "This is going to happen." It's Normal behavour". I can't do anything about it." I've encountered parents who themselves are bullies. It's just not socially as acceptable to be physical about it so they are extremely rude or are aggressive drivers for example. Just the other day I was stopped at a light. There was a bicyclest infront of me so when the light changed he set the pace. Behind me this woman in a High end SUV gets right on my tail, honks is waving like crazy flipping me off. Now, I don't think it's a reach to say her kids are more likely bullies than others. Just my two cents

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M.A.

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I told the school to tell the parents and the student bullying my daughter (5th grade) that if it happened again I was calling the police and pressing charges, the office did so and they took it serious. There has been no bullying since. I have also started helping in my kids class 3 out of 5 days a week. I let the bully know that my daughter was is awesome kids and would be a great friend if you even got to know her. Now they are really good friends. My two kids(daughter 5th grd and son 3rd grd) have been bullied 3 times and evey time I talked to the kids NICELY!! and just said hey my kid is fun to play with and would be a great friend, you should get to know him/her. You can t be mean anymore because I am going to be here EVERYDAY! Now they are friends. Look into it MOST kids who are bullies come from a bad home life. The boy that bullied my daughter now is one of her great friends BUT I take the time to listen to him and his stories ones that maybe no one else will. I see him in class 3-4 times a week and he comes right up to tell me how his day was going. These kids just want to know someone cares and will listen to them . Most likely they are bullying to make themselves feel better. Dont get me wrong when the kids first bullyed my son AND daughter I wanted to do what any M. would want to do. Instead I confronted them and said it will stop here because I will be here everyday and even the kid that bullyed my son on the bus I said no more because I will be here when the bus gets here and if it happens again the police will be here for you too.

Kids want limits and just to know someone cares. We have to be there to let kids know teacher and volunteers are there for them, they dont have to bully to get attention or to feel better about themself. Be there for any kid that needs to talk.
GOOD LUCK.. We cant let ANYONE bully our kids and we cant let the bullies bully themself.

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M.W.

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You can't change the world or other people. So I would start with heavily teaching your kid how to stand up for herself and what to do if she is bullied, through role play, etc.

I am not saying that the school shouldn't talk to the parents and that the teachers and school shouldn't punish the kid. But if the kid is a bully the parents of the kid have to make major changes as to what is going on in the home. How are we supposed to implement that? That's a tough one. How do you determine why a kid is bullying? Maybe the parents are not bad, but are having hardships or something and their kid is lashing out at others? You don't know. Maybe all bullies should be required to go to the school counselor for counseling?

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M.R.

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Well, it is not going to be easy, for sure. I am very active with this issue at our school, and what I have found is that the latest push for anti bullying policies and "programs" are a giant "CYA" for schools. If you can't access the policy, it does not really matter much, but you will soon see schools hiding behind their policies and programs and pretending that they were never notified, because all they really care about is not being sued.

Here is the one thing we can do. Make sure that you document any bullying incident by WRITING IT DOWN, and send copies all the way up the food chain, and add these words: I expect that the school will dicipline the children involved appropriately, and that effective actions will be taken to prevent this behavior and school climate from effecting my child again, or I will consider the school district to be deliberately indifferent to the bullying issue that is prevalant at (such and such school.) This communication is to serve you notice that the bullying climate is unacceptable at this school..."

This is the kind of thing that you can hold in your hand, and if enough parents do this, the schools will no longer be able to say that they did not know about the problem, which is the first hurdle.

Let me tell you a story about my autistic daughter who was surrounded by all the boys in her class as they chanted "do it" to her and the other autistic boy in class, because they "were both such loosers that nobody else would ever want them, so they just might as well get it over with..." Do you think much happened to those boys? Well, first, they were made to appologize...of course, that fixes everything! Then, when I contacted the speech thearpist to investigate because my daughter has communication issues (in writing, of course) the school "realized" that this was more than a "say your sorry Johnny" kind of thing....and the investigation confirmed that it all really happened, we were assured that the boys were diciplined, there were IEP meetings and new IEP services and we were assured taht our daughter would never be left unsupervised again.

Fast forward a couple of weeks, and I was at a social event, without children, talking to one fo the M.'s of the boys who was front and center in the whole event. I like her very much because she is a terrific person and she approached me to say that she knew our daughter was having a really hard time at school, and that her son understood what it was like to be different because he has an autistic cousin, and she wanted to offer some play dates...um....it was completely obvious that she had no idea what her son was involved, or punished, and no idea that he was one of the leaders of a horrible and discusiting event at school and that he derived so much pleasure in the double whammy that crushed two autistic kids in a very public way. She had no idea what had happened to our daughter and the other autistic boy, and it was not my place to tell her that her son was involved, when I told her what had happened, she said it was horrible, but never asked me who did it, and she clearly assumed her son to not be involved. He had expressed how sad he was for her terrible year at home...Very sad.

Now, here is my threory. When the perpetrators are like the young man I am talking about above, adults ignore it. They all love this boy. He is talented, gifted, a star in every way. They don't want to blemish his future, and they didn't and never will, unless we put the schools on notice and document who is doing what. They can hold paper, and they know that someone in the community is holding the original, so if they let the climate deteriorate and something bad happens, they will be exposed. It is a school problem, and we have to make sure that the school sees it that way. I know that this boy is a gifted manipulator, and his parents would be crushed if they could have seen what he did, but they don't know, and they really would not beleive it unless they were forced to, and the school prooved it to them. It certainly is not my place to tell them.

Document things folks. Write instead of calling. Use the right langague...Deliberately Indifferent, that will get thier attention, because if you sue them, you have to proove that they were deliberately indifferent to what they knew or should have known, was going on right under their noses. Name names, tell what happend, and put it on paper they can hold in thier hands, and they cannot say that you never told them (any words you speak will never have happend on a witness stand, and every judge knows they are lying, but will not do a darn thing about it!) The school will love you if you call, they can sweep it under the rug, and your problem is gone as soon as the air stops vibritating with the sound of your voice. Write, don't call. If we make the school do things that make these kids feel the pinch, it will stop. Schools have to TELL parents that it happend, before they will even know, or admit it to themselves, that it happend.

Lets face it folks, there are many posts, every day, about children who are victims...you know that there are obviously just as many parents out there whose children ARE the bully. Very few posts about that, why? Adults are putting thier heads in the sand and thier fingers in their ears and saying "lalalalalala."

Schools have an obligation. A legal obligation. Make them do something and document what happens, who does it, and let them know that you are keeping a copy. Lets see what happens if enough of us do so.

M.

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D.K.

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I think there are two problems with bullying. One is the child being bullyied. This child needs to be taught that it is unexceptible and how to better handle their frustrations. Bullying is about power. The bully feels inferior, for whatever reasons and bullies to feel better.
The other problem is the child being bullyied. That child needs to learn how to stand up for himself/herself. Why is the child the target of the bully? Because he/she appears to have less power to the bully. So the child needs to learn to stand up for himself/herself.
I am very worried that this anti-bullying is going to get out of control and we will throw away children. We are already doing this with all the zero tolerance stuff. Zero tolerance = zero thinking on the adult's part. The situation matters; intent matters. Trying to make things black and white denies the reality of the shades of grey which is part of life.

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J.V.

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It seems like it would be a case by case situation. Your job as a parent is to be your child's advocate in all situations. If they are being bullied then you need to speak up and have a meeting with the school to work out a plan. Otherwise, you are teaching them that they don't have a voice in life.

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P.G.

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It would be nice if the "children" could be charged with harrassment, and the parents charged as accessories.

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T.F.

answers from Los Angeles on

Just wait 'til they hit middle school and your poor bullied kid makes you swear you won't go to school or call the bully's parents because it's "social suicide!" Yeah...I got that one, last night. Anyhoo, I'm putting in a quiet call to his school counselor and giving him a head's up, bullys' names and all, making it clear that he is to not give any indication that I called, of course. I don't know how bully's parents are held accountable, either.

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A.S.

answers from Boca Raton on

IMHO the only way to win at the "bullying" game is to not play the game.

There are not many adults who would go to a job day-in and day-out to be terrorized (or at least feel threatened by terror). Why we expect little kids to cope with this better than we adults do is beyond me. In real life I gravitate towards the people of substance, who are kind and who try to make the world a better place. I don't try to "make nice" or "deal with" snakes or narcissists.

Young, impressionable children can be affected FOR LIFE by this issue. Due to the degradation of our culture in general it is worse now than it ever has been.

I would not wait for the school to figure out how to handle things, or hold the parents accountable. That's b.s. most of the time.

I would consider homeschooling . . . there are many options for homeschoolers now, including social activities with other kids whose parents are highly invested in them (the way you are).

JMO. Good luck.

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S.B.

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I would not see where it is the parents fault. Maybe they are thinking that there are tough times at home and the child isn't getting enough attention that he is lashing out? Or maybe the parent is allowing this child to watch bad television programs or play violent games? Otherwise I do not see where the parent could even be blamed.

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J.S.

answers from Biloxi on

My child was being bullied and the parents were part of the problem. my dd is now homeschooled. I didn't remove her for that but I did because I don't like how much pressure these kids are getting at school. The bully has a bad home life and bullies everyone around. No one shows her kindness...

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A.J.

answers from Williamsport on

Parents are 100% responsible for it even if they don't feel accountable. You can't really force them to feel accountable if they're vacuous creeps with no conscience, but you can hold them accountable somewhat by not letting it slide. I had to make personal contact with eye contact to the moms of a few kids in my daughter's class in a "Just so you know, your child is aggressive, please tell her not to bother my daughter, and please let me know if you ever hear of my daughter acting that way, because I do want to make sure she's acting nice" way.
Even if the teacher/school said something, adding your own statement is important so they have to "ignore" even more of the same message. It may get it through somehow one day-or not, but I think we definitely need to stand up to the bad parents the same way we expect kids to stand up to bullies. I think one big reason they act clueless or unbothered is because they spoiled the kids and let them bully their parents since toddlerhood, never got control of it, they know they can't control it now, so they go into denial and pretend it's not happening.

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L.D.

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I think in some States, if your child breaks the law, the parent is also held accountable and also incurs and penalty. I could be wrong about this but I seem to recall that maybe this is the case in California.

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G.B.

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Parents are legally responsible for their children's actions. They can be court ordered to pay damages if the child vandalizes property, they can be held accountable for just about everything their child does. They are legally and morally responsible for their child's actions. It's their job to make sure they don't act certain ways.

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