Hormones & Depression

The blood test for B12 is not always an accurate indicator of what your body is able to use. 33% of the population has a genetic defect that results in low levels of the enzymes that are necessary to use the B12 in the methylation cycle. The best test is actually to get a B12 shot and see if you feel better. If so, you generally do those everyday for a month to build your levels back up and then back down to once a week and overtime once a month. Also, did they measure your folate/folic acid. If that is high, that is a sign that your body can't use the B12. Also, sublingual or transdermal B12 can be good alternatives to the shots. For me personally, transdermal works well.

Also, ANYONE with depression should have their thyroid checked, including Free T3, Free T4, TPO and anti-thyroid antibodies, along with TSH, which is all most docs will measure and isn't particularly useful for folks that are borderline. I would bet you have been hypothyroid (borderline for those 10 years). Depression is one of the #1 symptoms.

And, yes diet and exercise can help, but at some point, they no longer will. I was likely hypothyroid for a very long time (absolutely after the birth of my first child) and a near perfect diet and exercise virtually every day helped compensate until I hit 40 and peri-menopause kicked in. Then, other hormonal changes just add to the problem. The best doc in the area to help deal with all of this is Dr. Margaret Christensen: www.christensencenter.com I don't know if it could be Mirena, but Dr. Christensen was a top OB/GYN before she switched to functional medicine and she would absolutely know the answer.

And, I still need regular exercise (and a good diet to feel well). Bad carbs like cookies, bread, etc. will just add to the problem and need to be avoided if you want to get and feel well.

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What has helped my anxiety/depression are these few things:
Exercise is a must. Even if its just a fast 30 min walk. That takes the edge off, and clears the mind. I am also taking my vitamins religiously. Lastly, I'm taking an Omega-3 supplement by Country Life called Mood. I bought it at Sprouts, but I'm sure they'd have it at any health food store. I am also hypothyroid, but that has been medically managed. I did switch from a synthetic thryoid medication to a natural one instead that has made me feel more normal. I'd bet that your situation can be managed without heavy antidepressants. At least its worth a try. I have also heard bad things about Mirena & its effects on mood. You may feel much better without it.

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Hi P.,

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Have you had your thyroid levels checked? Sometimes over or under active thyroid conditions can have symptoms similar to depression. I have had thyroid issues for around 5 years, and what was going on with my hormones (birth control, going off birth control, being pregnant, having a baby) always seemed to have an impact on my thryoid levels.

I also have dealth with anxiety and depression. I have found that walking...even 3 nights a week has helped my mood and my energy level. I walk with 2 friends and that also gives me some social time--away from kiddos! I know u said u didnt like meds, but I tried Cymbalta and took it 1 1/2 years....it worked wonders! I just recently stopped taking it so I could try life without it, which is where the walking came in. I am doing fine, but have no problems taking it again if I feel I needed to.
One other thing u might try is journals....I find that writing helps vent my moods when I feel nothing else will help.
Hope any of this helps! Good Luck.

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P.,
You are not alone. I have dealt with depression off and on my whole life, but it became much worse once i started having kids. I got post partum with my first, and began taking antidepressants. I hated the idea of taking them so i dont think i took them more then a month and i literally forced myself to be happy after that. After my second child, the postpartum was way worse. I swore that my baby hated me because as soon as he would look at me he would cry, but if someone else went to him and picked him up he was fine. I know NOW that he was just reacting to my feelings. He was upset, because I was upset. I got so bad for a while there that I was literally drinking myself into a stupor so that I didnt have to deal with reality. I finally called my doctor and he put me on a new antidepressant, celexa. It has made a world of difference in my life. It keeps me very balanced. I know how you might feel about taking antidepressants. I always thought that people who took antidepressants were weak individuals, BUT that is not the case. Depression is a chemical imbalance that people can not control. The anti depressants just balance the chemicals. I suggest you speak with your doctor and see what they say..Good luck to you and I will keep you in my thoughts and prayers.

Yes, it could definitely be the Mirena (I tried Mirena with terrible side effects, so I had it removed). Have you tried no birth control what so ever? Some women just don't respond well to artificial hormones in their body. Also, try seeing someone at the ICAM clinic. It's definitely time to look at alternative medicine if it's been 10 years with no success.

Please don't act as if Anti-Depressants are satan in a bottle! Some of us, and you sound like "us" need them due to hormonal imbalances that keep us from having normal lives. If the first A-D didnt work, try another and then another until you feel sane. Also look into the possability that you may be bi-polar and the meds are a different catagory and will make a huge difference too! There is no shame in being hormonally imbalanced to the point of needing meds, until we meet people like you who make us feel shamed. Please consider a pschychiatrist for your med management, they are the only ones that can get you on an even keel, therapists are great to talk to, but they cannot prescribe your meds for you. Please take care, and remember we are not crazy if we are on meds when we need them, we are crazy for thinking that meds are the enemy.

I am no expert, but have been in a similar situation before. I have tried holistic ways, like ginger tea with black cohosh and echinacea. I have also tried 5-HTP. What really helped me was making myself a priority and dropping weight and exercising. I wish you well.

I say, take the meds. Especially if they helped before. I think you need to weigh the benefits.

I am on Cymbalta and it does help. I too battle depression. Nothing to be ashamed of. If you aren't on an antidepressant, you may want to try one.

I have been there and highly suggest you find an endocrinologist who specializes in women's problems and not just an ob/gyn. OB's are great for so many things, but are not trained for those of us with severe hormonal imbalances. There are further tests they can run and more natural and different hormones they can try with you instead of just a birth control pill. They literally saved my life! I used to go to Dr. Walvoord but he is on the other side of Dallas and may have retired by now. (I just moved back to the area after 7 years). Hope it helps! Hang in there!

I read several months ago that a psychiatrist in England was having amazing results with Omega 3---FISH OIL!!! I had to go off anti-depressants because they were making me gain huge amounts of weight! So I decided to try it. I bought the Enteric coated fish oil (1000 mg)at Wal-Mart, and I take 6 capsules a day, 3 in the a.m. and 3 in the p.m. I've been off the Cymbalta since June 1 and I am doing fine. I truly believe God has provided natural ways of dealing with our problems. We just have to seek to find!! Hope this helps.

Hi P., I've been on antidepressants since I was 18 and I'm 26 now. I definitely know how you feel. I have heard different things, try a complex B vitamin, try switching your depressants, try a counselor, neurologist, could be birth control, yada yada. SInce you did mention Mirena, I will tell you that I have heard alot of people say they've had terrible mood swings with it, so you might want to look at that. I would start with that. Try a B complex vitamin too, bith control can take it away from you. I know you said you weren't low on B12, but you could try the B Complex anyway. If you like tea, there are teas that are said to be mood enhancers. I don't have depression really, but I get very anxious alot. Unfortunately, I think it's a trial and error thing. I would first try taking out the Mirena and trying the ComplexB and then if that does nothing then you might think about getting on Antidepressants, I'm on Cymbalta, and I like it, it's also good for headaches and anxiety, which are my issues. I hope you feel better soon, know that you're not alone.

You need to double check the side effects of Mirena! It does contain hormones and can cause terrible emotional issues. If you want birth control, I would suggest you use a copper IUD instead. They have no hormones.

Call and talk to your dr!!!

GL!

There is a lot of info out there about natural therpies including diet, exercise ,omega 3 fish oil, and healing through relaxation techniques. You can search Dr Mercola's website for a lot of answers: www mercola.com.

The Sedona method has also been very helpful for a lot of people. You can order the CDs and listen to them in your car.

These have been a big help to me!

It could very possibly be the Mirena. Speaking from real life experience, I just had mine removed 3 weeks ago because of this very issue. I, too, have struggled with depression over the course of the years, but it was too coincidental when I really started feeling terrible again after the Mirena was inserted. That little plastic thing is emitting hormones and there are many, many, many women who experience this type of problem. I would recommend getting the Mirena out and then see how you feel. You wouldn't want to medicate the Mirena. Who knows what the side of effects of that might be?

Be aware that many doctors, especially OB/Gyns will tell you that what you're experiencing isn't a "usual" side effect or that there really isn't that much hormone or that it's not getting into the bloodstream. That may be true, but the physician's information lists 15 different, and in my opinion, unwanted side effects. You can go to their website and read the "patient information" and see how it sounds great and then sift through the side effects on the "physician information". On the physician side, the "very common adverse reactions" are listed on page 5.

If you do get it removed, your doctor may not tell you that within days of its removal, you will experience the worst period of your life, passing clots the size of quarters and half dollars. I had severe cramping that I thought was going to send me to the emergency room. But three weeks later, things are much better and I feel much better and am able to be a much better mom to my girls.

I hope this helps.

I to have suffered from depression in the past. One of the things that worked for m, when I did not want to be on meds, was St. John's Wort. This can be found at any health food store. It is an herbal antidepressant. I experienced no side affects unlike when taking a prescription. I have also used this to aid in coming off my prescription. Good luck! I know how you feel and that it doesn't seem to make any sense and you can't explain it to others.

Sounds like you should get on the meds now if your family is starting to suffer. It is not worth it when the depression starts affecting others. Trust me, I had severe PPD after my first child, refused to take any kind of med and that almost cost me my marriage and my child. I am still on meds 8 years later and do not regret it one bit. While there may be other options out there, take something NOW then research later.

Praying for you!

J. S.

You need to have hormones tested by saliva tests -- it is more accurate. I know two doctors both of which I have seen that are excellent. Dr. Sharon Irvine in Mansfield and Dr. Staniland on the west side of Fort Worth. If you are interested let me know and I'll give you their phone numbers. Dr. Irvine is a DO and Dr. Staniland an MD both great Christian doctors that I am positive can help you get to the root of your problem. A.

Hello P.,

I am a mom of three beautiful children. A 4 year old boy, 2 1/2 year old boy and a 1 year old little girl. I experienced PPD after my first and last baby. This last time was really bad. I hadn't realized how severe it was till I was out of it a little and could look back. My husband and I talked recently and I hadn't realized how much of a toll it has taken on him!!!
Recently I did a 21 day body cleanse. No sugar, caffiene, no preservatives. . .just fruits and veggies along with the cleanse system you use. After the 21 days I really do feel alot better mentally and I don't live for my naps every day. I also take a whole food supplement called Juice Plus+ and that was the first thing that seemed to help. Your depression does sound hormonal because it sounds from your letter like it comes and goes. Maybe that cleanse wouldn't be a bad idea. It would take everything out of your diet but what you need, and give your body a chance. The Juice Plus+ would provide you with all the natural vitamins your body needs to be balanced so your not lacking anything. Sometimes when our body is lacking things it can really through us off. I know everyone is different but for me anything was worth trying. I had been on Zoloft during and after this pregnancy but it was giving me such severe craving and I was gaining so much weight that I went off of it. Since I was breastfeeding there was really nothing else I could take. I truely feel for you with all my heart because I know what your going through. I am still working through it myself, but I am much better than I was. As far as the Mirena goes, the only thing I don't like about that is if your not reacting well to the hormones it's harder to change. Yasmin (pills) had worked for me in the past, and now that I am not breastfeeding I may try that again. Don't know the difference between Yasmin and YAZ, but it might be worth asking your GYN. Sorry if this is scattered, I'm trying to write fast before one of my three little ones needs me!!! Where do you live? I am in Savannah, Texas. If you'd like to chat over the phone let me know. Or if you'd like info on how to get the 21 day body cleanse and Juice Plus+. The cleanse you would get through this wonderful doctor of natural medicine. Sometimes when conventional medicine does not work you need to look to other means. He may have some great ideas for you, and I know he would talk to you. I'd be happy to have him call you. He is out of Plano, Texas. I hope you have a great day today! Things will get better!!!

Sincerely, D. S