R.A. asks from Happy Valley, OR on July 31, 2010
Hives from HIB Vaccine
Okay so I dont know which one of these is the culprit. My son had a HIB vaccine on Thursday, on Friday I noticed what looks like Hives. I am fairly certain as I looked online as to what they look like. It's mild but def there. The think I am wondering is if A. Anyone out there has had their infant break out in hives after a vaccine (my son is 5 1/2 months old). B. gotten hives from Johnson & johnson bedtime bath wash (we just tried it also for the first time on Thursday) or it could be food related as we started solids and I have been slowly introducing new things (it was peach and avacado within the last week which would seem an odd thing to be allergic too). Any thoughts here? I am leaning more toward the vaccine or the new bath wash (we were using aveeno and for some reason I got the johnson & johnson stuff).
So What Happened?™
It has been several weeks and 2 doctor visits later and my little guy still has hives. The doctor finally said he does not think it is food which was a relief because I had cut out a ton of stuff and he still had hives. He thinks that he had some virus and the hives is a reaction. I still think it was the HIB but who knows. Anyway he says it could take 4 weeks to clear out of his system.
J.C. answers from Anchorage on August 01, 2010
It could be any of them. My son is sensitive to soaps, with anything perfumed causing hives. I get hives if I use bubble bath with citric in it (lemon or orange), or if I eat strawberries, or drink anything with certain red dyes.
M.R. answers from Kansas City on July 31, 2010
My neighbor's two yr old had hives and diarhea recently and her doctor said there was a virus going around that causes hives. The little girl had no vaccinations recently. Hard to tell which one of those variables it might be.
J.V. answers from Los Angeles on July 31, 2010
My son had hives after his 1st Varicella shot.....and fever, and constipation, and eye pain and tics for 6 days.....the list goes on and on. My pediatrician insisted it was not related. I created such a stink at the doctor's office they ended up reporting it as an adverse reaction to the manufacturer. Guess what? The manufacturer sent info back saying 1% or 1 of every 100 children will have hives from varicella AND get this, all the other reactions he had. Can you believe it? Don't believe everything you hear. Trust your gut instincts when it comes to your child, you are his advocate for life. The 1% of children that react to vaccines are actually someone's child, not just numbers in a report.
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A.S. answers from Boca Raton on August 01, 2010
Here is the CDC information sheet for Hib: http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/vis/downloads/vis-hib.pdf .
Notice under #5 - "hives" is listed in the "what should I look for" in regard to signs of a serious allergic reaction (other sypmtoms listed too). There is a timing component there so read that for yourself.
This is the same child with 40+ food sensitivities now (and a lifetime of chronic sickness until we figured it out around age 9-10). Do I know for sure that there is a connection? Of course not. But I don't know that it's NOT connected either.
Good luck - do your research, check with your regular doctor and possibly seek out other sources of professional advice.
If it were my child I would be extremely vigilant with future vaccines. I'm not saying that you should not get them - just that I would have been alot more careful (i.e., questioned my ped more and researched things for myself) had I known then what I know now.
I'm not a doctor or health care professional - this is just my own mom opinion.
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A.Z. answers from Portland on August 01, 2010
You could carefully rule out the J&J as well as the food allergies by trying them again. Please realize, that usually a reaction doesn't occur the first time you try something, but on subsequent occassions as the body gets the exposure the first time and the next time it will react. That is why penicillin and other antibiotic reactions don't typically happen the first time you use them on your child, but the second time. Personally, I would toss out the J&J. It's full of nasty chemicals as others have stated and not worth risking. Your skin is your largest organ and products like body washa nd shampoo can easily permeate the skin and go into the bloodstream. Whether it cause hives or not, I am not sure, but doing a small patch test to find out would be worthwhile as you would want to rule out what you can prior to getting more vaccines. If your child is susceptible to reactions (boys are at a higher risk due to their testosterone levels) you need to know! Vaccines can cause two types of allergic reactions: a reaction, e.g., immediate allergic response (anaphylaxis), and a side effect, e.g., fever, rash, or localized swelling later on. Vaccines are not only in a base of egg whites in many cases which are risky for adverse reactions (egg yokes are safe for babies), but many also contain peanut oil which is one of the highest reactive agents that people are allergic to (hence the airlines no longer serving peanuts). In addition to the viral and bacterial RNA or DNA that is part of the vaccines, here are the fillers (any of which could be the cause of the hives and even more dangerous reactions with future vaccines):
animal tissues: pig blood, horse blood, rabbit brain,
dog kidney, monkey kidney,
chick embryo, chicken egg, duck egg
calf (bovine) serum
fetal bovine serum
human diploid cells (originating from human aborted fetal tissue)
monosodium glutamate (MSG)
phenol red indicator
porcine (pig) pancreatic hydrolysate of casein
residual MRC5 proteins
VERO cells, a continuous line of monkey kidney cells
washed sheep red blood cells
So definitely determine if the other items you mentioned were causing a reaction so you can better prepare for reactions and watch for symptoms if you choose to continue with vaccinations. An educated parent can better protect their child.
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M.H. answers from Atlanta on July 31, 2010
Johnson and Johnson anything baby is pretty toxic. Most of their products have a known carcinogen (cancer causing) called quaternium-15 (Q-15). It's a cheap preservative that creates formaldehyde. The vaccine also has some synthetic chemicals as well that could also be a culprit. Hives is a fairly mild reaction but can be a red flag that next time it could be worse. You can go online and get ingredients to all the vaccines before you take them. I don't have a problem with the theory of vaccination but I didn't vaccinate my kids because of the synthetic chemicals. I also didn't have the internet to get specific info like you can get.
I'm not a fan of Aveeno either but it is head and shoulders about Johnson and Johnson. Try the peaches and the avocado separately. Both are usually not a cause for reaction, especially the avocado. It's one of nature's perfect foods.
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K.R. answers from Spokane on August 02, 2010
My son had mild skin reations to vaccines, bath products, and peaches! Try the peaches and bath soap again to see what happens (on seperate days of course!) and do some major research on vaccines. After reading the findings of INDEPENDENT research (not done or funded by the pharmaceutical companies) I have chosen to stop vaccinating my children. I will keep myself educated and updated and may change my stance as they get older and/or vaccines get "cleaned up" but for now we're done with them. Check out childhoodshots.com for some enlightening information - we are our child's first and most concerned advocates, use your mind and voice to protect them!
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K.C. answers from Los Angeles on August 01, 2010
As others said, it could be any of those things.
Many vaccines contain traces of eggs and therefore can be a problem for children with egg allergies. Ask your doctor if HIB has egg and whether that could be the culprit. Oddly though, my son, who IS allergic to eggs and can't have any food containing eggs, hasn't had a problem with any vaccines, even those with egg in it. But still, worth checking.
Yes, new bath products can cause hives & rash. My son has also had problems when we switched. We use Dove Sensitive on him now, as many other things cause his eczema to flare up (as well as other problems).
Most kids aren't allergic to peaches or avocado, but it's not unheard of. Pay close attention next time you give one and wait three days before giving the other.
All that said, he may have just had a bad reaction to the vaccine but doesn't actually have allergies to any of the above culprits!
Good luck. I hope you figure out the cause.
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L.G. answers from Eugene on August 02, 2010
Wikipedia lists HIB as being a multiple vaccination. Tetanus is a known cause of serious allergic reactions. When given separately in clinics it can set off all kinds of problems. They used to give it every time you had an wound but today if you have had one within ten years it is considered good protection.
I don't know why mothers and fathers are given so little information about the required vaccinations children are given. They have so many to go through. I stopped vaccinating when I nearly lost my two year old to measles vaccination.
Children have acquired epilepsy from DPT shots. My grandson did. Fortunately I am a homeopath and was able to cure him.
If your child is showing allergic reactions buy only pure healthy products in the health food store. Cross over stores that carry organics and regular products cannot be trusted in these matters as they do not care about health only the profit margin.
I wash clothes with Planet or Ecover same for dishes. My soaps contain no formaldahyde. I brush my teeth with Calendula tooth paste from Weleda. As a matter of fact I use lots of Weleda products. You see I am someone who has suffered from allergies since birth.
If you smoke or someone close to you smokes do not smoke around your son.
Introduce new foods slowly one at a time. Sometimes allergies to one food are mild and it can be tolerated once a week. When many foods that are mildly allergenic for a person are given at once an allergic episode occurs.
A competent homeopath can cure allergies.
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E.E. answers from Portland on August 01, 2010
My DD is allergic to peaches