C.C. asks from Sandy, UT on June 03, 2008
Help with My Nieghbors Kids
Okay I will try to make this story as short as possible. I am a SAHM of a 4 year old girl and a 2 year old boy. We have two nieghbor families with young children also. My next door nieghbors have a 5 year old boy and a 2 year old girl. The other family lives about 4 houses down and they have 5 kids, the ones that I see the most are a 5 year old girl, 6, year old boy, and 9 year old boy. From here I don't even know where to begin. These two families have no supervision over their kids. I believe they are related also. All of these young children are constantly oustide walking, playing, and doing what they please up and down the street. That I have no problem with. Because they are similar ages with my kids they constantly come over to play. So I have constant door ringing, I mean constant. If I don't answer they will just keep ringing, knock on the window, or come back every five minutes. And yes I have told them not to do this. And they will say things like, "we see your car why don't you answer the door?" I don't mind my kids playing with them, but I have a hard time wanting 5 extra kids at my house all the time. So I am saying no they can't play a lot. To which they just knock on my door every so often to see if they can play yet, interupting, naps, etc. When they are here, some, not all, do not listen, and things get broken, and then they question why I tell them things. For example they always want to play with my dogs. I just don't feel comfortable putting my six month old puppy out with them all the time, plus I get irritated at the attitude. Half the time I can't tell if they want to play with my kids, or if they are here for my dogs, or adult attention. But the parents of these kids are NEVER around. They can be over at my house for over an hour and their parents are never concerned, nor come looking for them. My husband says just tell them they can't come over here, but I feel like that is not fair to my kids who like to play with them. Plus I don't want to punish the kids for their lack of parenting. Talking to their parents would do no good. I have talked to the one down the street before. She looked at me like I was an idiot, and didn't even know what kids were at her own house at the moment. I could go into so many details but this would get so long. What are good boundaries? Is it rude to say they can't come in? I don't want to start a nieghborhood war.
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WOW! I am so surprised at the amount of responses I received. Thanks ladies. Okay, so I have decided to make a stop sign to hang on the door, hopefully this deters the kids a little from the constant door ringing, and window knocking. I had thought about something like this before, but didn't know if it was going to far or not. But so many of you have tried it and it has worked, so I won't worry about that at all. I had already decided that the kids could not play in the back yard after my son's scooter had been broken and the dog dish had been used as a pool for all of her toys. So I won't feel bad about that either. I haven't decided on whether or not the kids can come in the house or not. We will see how they all do on the first rule of not knocking when the stop sign is on red. If they can't follow that rule, they probably won't come in the house. As for my dog, she stays in the house with me, and will only go out if I can watch her. Then I will know they want to play with my kids, not my dogs. And for you ladies who commented on my hatred of being 30, okay it's really not that bad. I am just vain, and liked my 20's. I know life has plenty of good things in store for me.
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R.M. answers from Provo on June 04, 2008
Hi,
We have a little red piece of cardstock, it is laminated and a rubberband stapled to it. It reads "family time-no friends" and has a smilie face on it. When we don't want friends to knock on the door, we hang it outside. The neighborhood knows the rule (I explained it to them all) and now they don't knock if it is hanging out! Hope it helps.
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A.B. answers from Casper on June 04, 2008
I have a friend down the street with nearly the same situation. The difference being that the mother of the kids that are the issue is her daycare provider. She really doesn't want to start any issues but needs the continual interruptions to stop. My friend has decided to put a stop sign on her door. If the neighbor kids come to the door and see the stop sign, they are not to knock or ring the doorbell. This way, no naps are interrupted or family time taken away. If the stop sign is not on the door, they can ring the doorbell and see if her kids can play! I thought this was a great idea!
***I didn't read the post right before mine. She had the same idea!
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L.B. answers from Great Falls on June 04, 2008
I saw this in a family fun magazine, and it has worked for us. We hang a little laminated sign from the front door, one says, "the kids can play at ___ today"(fill in the appropriate time), another says "The kids aren't home right now. Check back later", another says. "Sorry, we can't play today." It has done the trick for us. I wish you luck. It is a pain to have the constant open door policy. Do what you feel is right for your situation.
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B.M. answers from Pocatello on June 04, 2008
I have had a neighbor as you have. We called her crazy neighbor because she wouldnt know where her children were. Ages 4 and 3 at the time. I mean Hours. One time they were at my house for more than 8 hours. I think she knew that they were with me but dont you think they needed food or a nap or something. I was not their mother. Anyways, what I did was take the kids home one day and asked to talk with the parents. I told them that I enjoy their time over at my house but I needed to keep my children on a schudule. So I put a Time that We were available to play each day and amount of time to play. The parents were not happy but they excepted this because I let them know that their children were always welcome but only at the appointed time. I enjoy having children in my house but sometimes a little quiet time is what I need.
B.
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D.J. answers from Fort Collins on June 04, 2008
First of all LOL about turning 30 and hating it...it was a bad time for me too. Now I remember why we chose to live in the country, this has it's drawbacks too, absolutely no kids but their own siblings to play with. This kind of behavior is so annoying but is absolutely the parents fault. If talking with the parents is not a viable option then you need to speak to the kids directly. The kids obviously have no boundries physical or otherwise. It's unfortunate that you are having to take on the responsibility of kids that are not yours. You could explain to them that you have a schedule, nap time, and other activities. You are going to have to be very firm with them. You could put signs on the door red and green. Red meaning do not ring the bell, the kids can not play, green meaning it's ok. If the kids come into your home you must explain your rules and they must agree to them and obey them. You also need to set a time limit for their visits. I realize that you don't want to have a reputation as the mean neighbor but these kids obviously don't talk to their parents so I seriously doubt they would say anything about your rules. As for the parents I would not care one bit what they might say about you. You have to do what is best for your kids and family.
best of luck...
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H.F. answers from Pocatello on June 04, 2008
I am sorry that you are in such a difficult situation! I too have neglectful neighbors, they let their kids run wild 24/7. It really sets a bad example for your own children who are not allowed to do some of the things that their neighborhood friends do. We have one little boy who comes and knocks on our door constantly, as late as 10:00 at night (school nights too) when my kids have been asleep since 7:30! The child's Dad comes over at all hours asking if we have seen his son, the parents never know where he is. We have not allowed this little boy to play inside our house ever since I found out that he was stealing from another family in the neighborhood every time he went over there to play (he is only 6!) I will let him play with my kids only in our yard under my supervision. Since the parents are so uncoopertive the only thing I can think of is that maybe you should call social services and just let them know that you are concerned that there may be some neglect going on, I may do that myself, I have a hard time butting in but I shutter to think what this little boy will be like when he is a teenager without some help!
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K.F. answers from Grand Junction on June 04, 2008
Oh C. I feel your pain! I find myself in the same situation. ALL the neighbor kids find their way to my house and there are two children, 5 and 7 that show up at the same time everyday. I discovered that mom was leaving at that time to go pick up dad. She never asked me or even told me for that matter. I was shocked that anyone would just leave their kids but she does. I even sent them home one time and they came back cause she wasn't there. I have huge issues with this and have felt the same as you are feeling now. This is how I have handled it so far....
I'd rather have all the kids at my house cause atleast I know where mine are. Infact my children had gone over to the "absent" moms house and she called me not knowing where they were. ( They had infact left her house and returned to mine as usual) I just feel better knowing that they are ok. If that means I have a gaggle of kids so be it. I also quit making it so comfortable at my house. No inside play, only outside, no snacks and only water. My house doesn't seem so enjoyable anymore. Also it doesn't hurt to just say NO!
I sometimes send the kids home when i know that she is going to leave without asking me. I just say that it isn't a good time and off they go.
Hope it helps to know that Im going through the same thing.
PS.. 30 is awesome! I have never felt better. Just wish I could have this hair and my 20 yr old body back!
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K.B. answers from Provo on June 03, 2008
You need to have a talk with all of the parents. Tell them your kids need a certain structure or they have a really bad day or something. Tell them that they need to call to ask if their kids can come over to play. Ask them to please make sure to tell their kids this and make sure they obey. Tell them that to be helpful, you will let them know if their children are not obeying, and coming over without their parents calling first. Good luck!!!
K.
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M.S. answers from Denver on June 04, 2008
Be thankful you're the "fun" house. At least you know what's going on and can put your spin on any disagreements. You should have no problem setting and enforcing rules. Teachers do it all the time to other people's kids...what's the difference for your house? We have a neighbor kid who doesn't like my rules....he leaves pouting, but always comes back eventually and has learned to follow the rules. So, I'd set the first rule as, if you ring the doorbell more than once, you cannot come to my house for the rest of the day. Then, when they are not listening, call the parent or march the kid over and explain to the other parent the problem and ask them to please take care of the problem - you may have to do this more than once for both parent and child to figure out you mean business. Set the rules for playing with the dog, if they're not followed, dog goes inside and they have to leave. Yes, this is going to be a lot of work for you at the beginning but hopefully you'll end up with neighborhood kids that behave (at least at your house) AND still be the place to hang out (so you can keep an eye on your kids). Snacks are tougher...it can be expensive to feed the whole neighborhood but you don't want to model rude behaviour. If the other parents are not doing snack time some days (which it sounds like they're not), I see nothing wrong w/keeping track for a week or so and then asking them to pitch in.."I love that all the kids play together. I've done snacks for little Billy every day this week. It's really starting to pinch my budget to feed the whole neighborhood. Would you mind helping out?" If they don't pitch in, just start sending the kids home at snack time. Also, start imposing on the neighbors. You need to run to the store? Walk the neighbor kids and your kids over to the neighbor's house and say, "they've been in my backyard all morning and I haven't gotten to the store. I'd love for you to watch them in your backyard while I run to the store." and then walk away and go to the store. If being assertive starts neighborhood wars, so be it. do you really want to be friends with these people? I'll bet the kids will still come to your house and if you've been polite all along, there's nothing your neighbors can do and you'll be more sane because everyone will be following your rules.
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L.W. answers from Provo on June 04, 2008
I would start by setting some very specific rules for when friends come over that you are comfortable with. Go over them with your kids first and make sure they understand them and the consequences of not following them (like they have to go home and can't come back for a day or so) when friends come over. Be sure to enforce these rules all the time at first. The neighborhood kids will catch on, and maybe they won't be too happy at first, but obviously they need structure and kids really do crave it and knowing their boundaries.
Also, if playing with them inside your house is just too much, you could have a rule about how many friends inside at a time. Hey, it's your house, and if you don't have room for every kid to be there, then you make that rule. Another rule could be how much time your kids are allowed to play at a time. You can tell these kids that when the time is up for the day, that you will not answer the door or respond to the knocking on windows kindly unless it is an emergency and they need help. They obviously haven't learned what is rude/polite.
We have had to deal with this in our neighborhood, too. The moms have gotten better at telling the kids that what they are doing is rude. If you do this, be sure to tell them what is appropriate to do. At first doing these things may seem like you're mean and that the kids don't get it, but they will as long as you're consistent. You have to follow through with the consequences every time.
I don't mean to sound harsh or mean for you to make some harsh rules, but I just think that this will help them understand a bit. I do think they need some good adult influence in their lives, and you could be the one. Good luck! I know it can be very hard.
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