J.F. asks from Tonawanda, NY on October 23, 2011
Help on Being Frugal!
I'm looking for a little money advice from the frugal moms on here!
We're hitting kind of a rock bottom financially and are looking for ways to change things so that we can afford our basic bills.
A little background: we have NO extras except cell phones and internet... no cable/satellite (just bunny ears with basic channels), we cancelled streaming Netflix (only $7/mth) and i really don't want to cancel the internet! We go out to eat maybe twice a year, we try to keep our use of paid time off to a minimum so it will get paid out for Xmas money. We just have utilities, student loans, child support and the basic costs of the children we have together. But we're still finding expenses are going up and paychecks are not.
My husband is close to possibly getting a job in local law enforcement (he's been dreaming about this for years, has passed all his tests & is only 1 interview away). I work part time, and just picked up as much time as i could there, so i'm looking into a 2nd evening/night position.
The only other variable things we have control over are the gas we use in the car and groceries. Gas is hard because we drive 3 hours total every other weekend just to pick up my stepdaughter... but we try to keep the rest to a minimum.
Any advice on how to save on grocery costs? I've never been a coupon cutter... i guess it just intimidates me and i don't feel i ever really saved when i tried. Plus i feel it takes up so much time (probably because i don't know how to do it well). Is it worth it?? I buy store brands with a shoppers club card, the coupons rarely apply to those. But i'm open to anything. We spend about $400-500/mth for our family of 4 (sometimes family of 5 when my stepdaughter's with us). If you don't mind sharing, what does your family pay per month in groceries? How do you keep costs down?
Any other saving ideas are definitely welcome too... just trying to figure this out before we get to a point where we're in crisis! Thanks for any help! :)
So What Happened?™
Thanks for all the responses!!
some of the great suggestions we already take advantage of... we do cloth diapering, always make our lunches, don't drink soda or bottled water, grow our own veggies & freeze them, buy as little "processed" food as possible, shop for everything in bulk (especially meats) and have a nice big freezer for storage, my husband hunts so that helps with getting cheaper meat too, we clean with mostly vinegar & baking soda, i rarely wear makeup, we got to the movies once/yr (if that!), rent from redbox once or twice a month, looked into refinancing (with all the costs involved doesn't look like we can afford to), we meet in the middle for driving my stepdaughter back to her mom but have to drive all the way to pick her up from school (unfortunately not likely to change!), & we're almost a cash-only family (have only 1 credit card we use for gas because it gives us a discount & pay it off monthly). Your responses reinforced that we're not the only family to live like this and that's so great to hear :) we get hassled for our frugal lifestyle by friends who live off credit cards & way above their means.
All your responses gave me new ideas too though, so thank you so much!!! The different ways of cooking meats to make them stretch more were really helpful! And all the thoughts on groceries, coupons & meal planning were great. Also student loan suggestions - i definitely have to look into that.
Thank you all so much for the great ideas and advice!!
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W.R. answers from Roanoke on October 23, 2011
When I first decided to stay home with my daughter, we had $300 per month to spend on groceries. It was HARD because I also wanted us to eat healthily. One thing I did was to buy the veggies and fruit that was on sale - $1 per pound was my price limit. Then I worked the recipes around what was on sale rather than buying what I wanted for my menu. I did clip coupons but found that often the store brand was cheaper than the name brand with a coupon. Sometimes I got things for a few cents though when stores had double or triple coupons. I only bought whole grain bread and found it for about half grocery store price at Costco. If I found it for less than $2 per loaf I bought a lot and froze it. Good luck!
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E.M. answers from Honolulu on October 23, 2011
I used to spend 200 a month feeding 4 (this included diapering costs, household cleaning supplies, and medical bills). You can't afford meat except rarely but can get eggs for proteins.
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C.O. answers from Washington DC on October 23, 2011
J.:
You could probably cut your grocery bill by 25% or more if you used coupons.
I am a family of 4 with one dog. We spend about $450 a month on groceries. It fluctuates. We buy our meat in bulk every six months.
I would ask your husband's ex-wife to meet you half way to help save on gas.
Make a menu for each week. Look through your grocery store's flyer for the week and make the menu off things that are on sale that week. Combine them with coupons and save even more. yesterday, I went to the store and saved $45.30 in coupons...it took me about 45 minutes of going through the Sunday paper (from the week prior) and my coupon sites (pennypinchergazette.com, hotcouponworld.com, pillsbury.com, bettycrocker.com, etc.)
Other ways to be frugal:
Turning lights off behind you
making sure the load is full before you run the dishwasher or the washing machine.
Making lunches for work instead of buying them. Even for kids in school.
using leftovers - don't let food go to waste
Taking public transportation when you can instead of the car.
buying clothes and toys from Goodwill, Salvation Army or some other second hand store.
I would STRONGLY suggest that you go to the library and check out Dave Ramsey or Suze Orman and take control of your finances instead of the finances controlling you.
It sounds like you need to get a full time job instead of a 2nd job.
Call anyone that you owe money to and set up payment arrangements that you can afford. You can do that with your student loans as well.
If you own your home, see if you can refinance to a lower rate...right now rates are low and you could end up saving on your mortgage, not only right now, but the future interest paid as well.
I would STRONGLY suggest not using ANY credit cards. I know it's hard. We are a cash only family and I can tell you the great relief it is not getting a bill in the mail every month. Yes, it was hard at first. We had had the luxury of having a credit card that had a $35K limit...so it was "easy" to charge.
Now we think before we purchase something.
Before I overload you, I'll stop for now. Please feel free to inbox me if you need more information. Couponing is easy. You don't need to go to extremes.
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W.R. answers from Roanoke on October 23, 2011
When I first decided to stay home with my daughter, we had $300 per month to spend on groceries. It was HARD because I also wanted us to eat healthily. One thing I did was to buy the veggies and fruit that was on sale - $1 per pound was my price limit. Then I worked the recipes around what was on sale rather than buying what I wanted for my menu. I did clip coupons but found that often the store brand was cheaper than the name brand with a coupon. Sometimes I got things for a few cents though when stores had double or triple coupons. I only bought whole grain bread and found it for about half grocery store price at Costco. If I found it for less than $2 per loaf I bought a lot and froze it. Good luck!
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J.V. answers from Chicago on October 23, 2011
Couponing doesn't have to take up that much time. I put aside maybe 4-5 hours a month to cut coupons, find deals, etc. and I save tons, a good $200 a month. So couponing is worth it. You need to make sure you have access to 4 sets of coupons, you can get cheap papers at the Dollar Store or Menards. Never pay more than .50c for a Sunday subscription. They have .25c deals all the time.
We keep costs down in lots of ways:
1. we are a paperless house: cloth diapers, cloth napkins and cloth towels to clean up messes
2. We cook smart: we butcher our own chickens, and always use the carcass to make stock and chicken noodle soup. We also buy big pork roasts and freeze the left over meat for taco night.
3. Shop clearance clothes. Only shop clearance clothes. I got my son all of his heavy fleece winter PJ's at Target last winter on clearance. They were $1.5 each! I got myself 3 pairs of pants for winter at Eddie Bauer for $24 bucks! All in style, all very nice! Target is great for free or really cheap clothes if you coupon right.
Times are tough. We are heading into another recession if not depression. Wages are down, yet costs are up. My hubby's commute cost just went up by 30% because the state increased toll costs. Everyone is broke, and everyone needs money, yet, companies are hording profits and only paying their Exe big bucks. Something is going to have to break, because more and more of us are struggling. My hubby makes a good living, yet, I have to coupon to keep up with rising costs since his salary isn't rising fast enough.
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L.C. answers from Dover on October 23, 2011
I just started couponing and yes it takes time, but it doesn't have to be the full time job some people make it.
I do it kind of like how Cheryl does it. I go through the local grocery ads once every two weeks when I am going shopping. I base my menu for the 2 weeks I shop around what is on sale in various places in combination to what I have coupons for. I then write my grocery list according to what is on sale at what store and shop accordingly. I have the commissary here on base, so that helps, but if I have coupons and there are sales in the local stores I can often get things cheaper off base.
Sometimes people don't clip all the coupons, but I do unless it is something I KNOW we will never use, like denture cream. It helps to clip them all, though, because there may be a coupon in the paper for something that isn't on sale right now, but in two weeks it will be and if you didn't clip the coupon, you don't get the deal. The real pay off is when you have clipped coupons for weeks and then suddenly stuff comes up on sale that you have a coupon (or several if you get 3 papers which I also recommend). It has saved us a ton on non-food items that we use a lot of like shampoo and soap, toothepast, laundry detergent, razors. With the holidays coming up, it is a perfect time to start because a BUNCH of coupons will be in the papers and a BUNCH of stuff will be on sale. For instance, someone mentioned Turkeys at 19 cents a pound. You can buy a lot of turkeys for that price - small ones that you can roast and freeze and use as lunch meat, soup meat, taco meat and so on.
Do, shop for meat in bulk and separate into meal size portions and freeze. You can get the "family packs" for cheaper per pound.
Look into making your own cleaning supplies, it is cheaper to make laundry soap homemade after the initial expense and it works just as well and is better for you. You can clean almost anything with vinegar and/or baking soda. You can buy a vat of vinegar that lasts months for what you spend on 2 or 3 cleaning supplies.
These are just a few. Let me know if you need any more info.
L.
*ETA - even the $1 off 3 can help, if you know you are going to buy three of something anyway. For instance there was a coupon of $.40 of 3 campbell's cream soups. Well, if you are going to get 3 anyway for cooking then you use the coupon. If you have 50 items on your list and save 40 cents per item, then you have saved $20 at the end of your shopping and that's gas money for the car.
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B.C. answers from Los Angeles on October 23, 2011
I spend about $25 per person per week for groceries for my wife and I, but that's because I have my kids and their families come over for Sunday dinner. During the month of September, someone was sick or scheduling prevented any of the kids from coming over with their families and I spent $80 for the month on groceries for just my wife and I. That's $10 per person per week plus two extra days at the end.
I was surprised at first, but when I think about it my wife don't have lavish tastes. We don't buy sodas because we prefer water. We don't buy bottled water because we have a filter beside our faucet in the kitchen sink. We refill our water bottles from there on a regular basis. We don't consume alcohol or tea or coffee and we make smoothies from fresh fruit for desert. We don't smoke and we are not brand connisieurs (sp?).
When I buy beans, I don't care if the can is dented and will buy what ever is the least expensive and add whatever spices I want myself. I do 99% of the cooking in our home and cook almost all my food from scratch. I make my menus off what is on sale and I almost always buy from two or three markets each week.
What is cooking from scratch? meat and pasta or rice, vegetables and spices. Cooking from scratch IS NOT hamburger plus water and a box of "Hamburger Helper". Cooking from scratch is rice pilaf made by adding rice, chicken broth, garlic (fresh or granules), green onions diced and spices. It is not Rice-a-Roni plus water.
DON"T buy meat from Costco or Sam's. Its way too expensive there! We brown bag our lunches or dinner for work. We subscribe to allrecipes.com and make almost all our food from fresh ingredients.
I buy food on sale and when it is a really good sale I buy a lot. I bought 30 pounds of pasta because it was on sale for $.30 lb. (Normally its $1+ lb.) I have a a juicer that I use to make orange juice or lemon juice. Some store was selling Ocean Spray juice in 10 oz bottles for the same price as the half gallon bottles (price per ounce), so I bought 4 cases of the 10 oz size. When we drank the 10 oz portions, I cleaned/washed out the bottles and saved them. Now, when the stores have a real good sale on oranges or lemons, I buy the oranges and squeeze the oranges. Then I fill the 10 oz bottles and place them in our freezer. When my wife wants to take OJ to work, she grabs one of the 10 oz bottles. By the time lunch comes, the OJ is thawed. She saves the bottles and I repeat the process. I made lemonade last night from the lemons I juiced. It cost me about $.15 for a quart of lemonade. AND my lemonade didn't have any of those chemicals in it that only a chemist could understand or pronounce.
If you want more ideas, e-mail me. BTW, we had rotisserie chicken last night for dinner. Mine cost me $3 because I bought the 5 lb chicken on sale and I cooked it on my own rotisserie. (Sams and Costco use 2 to 3 lb chickens for their rotisserie chicken and theirs are $5.)
Good luck to you and yours.
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M.B. answers from Austin on October 23, 2011
One thing you can do is check with your student loans and see if you can get a temporary deferral to help get you back on track for a few months.
I do wish Angel Foods was still available.. it was a great help for us! There are a few other food suppliers that are trying to get developed, but I don't know the names of them... the ones I've seen aren't in my area, and I don't think they are in yours, either. CooknCents.com has lots of suggestions on coupons you can get, and also may have some suggestions to replace Angel Food Ministries. They are also on facebook.
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J.L. answers from Chicago on October 23, 2011
I am with Cheryl O. Look for coupons in the junk mail you get advertising specials at your local grocery store. Go online to pick out recipes that you can create more than one meal and have leftovers. Soups and Chili and stews for our generally make for a meal two nights in a row. Also, shop clearance racks, and look at resale stores for items you may need. Need some extra cash? Look at selling things on Ebay and Craig's list. Ebay has been great for me in that I find all kinds of things I need discounted. I just bought a Mary Kay item for $29 vs $55.
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B.B. answers from Portland on October 23, 2011
Can you cut your cell phone plan down? If you have anything more than just voice on your cell you can cut quite a few $ off your bill by removing texting, picture messaging, and other extras.
I also plan my menu, shop sales, and coupon as I am able. I don't make meals where meat is the main entree -example: meatloaf takes a bunch of meat but I can turn around and use 1/2 the amount of meat that I would have used in meatloaf and make a sauce with meat in it to make it stretch further. I cut up chicken breasts and put them in a casserole rather than cooking a chicken breast for everyone and again cut my meat useage in 1/2.
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