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HELP My 3 Year Old Knows Her Abc but Won't Tell You Her Letters

My 3 year old has been singing the ABC song for a over a year now, so naturally thinking about pre-k this coming fall my husband and I are trying to get her to recognize her letters and numbers. We sing the ABC song, we do the A is for apple, as well as flash cards, magnets and we have learned its not that she does not know theses things she is just stubborn. ex: I tell her "C is for clothes" she repeats it and we go back and forth repeating it 5 or 6 times. then I say something like "C is for clothes Aniyah has alot of pretty clothes, right?" She answers yes and says c is for clothes. Then if I ask her what letter is for clothes she either stare into space, playing with her toes, telling me a story about when we went to the park yesterday or starts to cry as if she is in trouble. I have worked on keepong my tone happy and helpful to end the crying, but that doesn't work. My husband and I alternate working with her. for example if I had to be the one to say no to ice cream for breakfast Daddy will do her lesson because she is mad at me. Nothing seems to work please help me my daughter is so smart maybe to smart for her own good which makes her stubborn. How do I get her past her personal feelings of i rather be playing with my dolls to be able to learn the basics to get ready for pre k this fall.

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thank you so much ladies for your advice I will take the Teaching out of learning. My fear still is that most of you have stated that your 3 and four year olds can write and read. this worries me! Your opinions have me thinking maybe i have done something wrong in my parenting. we don't want to force anything on her but i can not allow my daughter to fall behind. I thought I knew how she learned but maybe not. Music has always been a joy of hers. How is it she can memorize the top 10 song on the radio but not abc and 123. Once again thank you so much I will make a conscience effort not to drill her anymore no more flash cards only short conversations and maybe a few questions.

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She is not ready. Singing a song and repeating what you say are different skills that she is ready for. Let her play, talk to her, read to her, take her to the zoo and the park and the grocey store and identify every object you can think off. Let her marvel at gravel and talk about the colors of the Christmas lights, but don't expect her to enjoy doing things that are developmentally beyond her years. All you can do right now is enrich her environment, you cannot give her a boost into the next developmental stage, and the one you are shooting for is many stages away from typical 3.

She is not too smart for her own good, but she is smart enough to know that she is not ready to do drills, and that is not stubborn, that should be a huge red flag to you to stop it ASAP. You are expecting more from her than a child her age can muster.

M.

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I asked a similar question and one of the moms said that kids this age can also be thinking "why are you asking me this question, you already know the answer?" LOL. My pediatrician said not to worry about this kind of stuff. It sounds like you're working with her and she knows it. She's only 3; relax and let her be a kid. You're putting the info in her brain. She'll use it when she really needs to.

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She's only 3 , she won't recognise letters yet despite knowing the ABC song. My daughter just learnt to reconise the letters this school year , she was 4 in December and is still in preschool. I think you are asking and expecting too much of her and it is unrealistic.

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You mean well but you are taking the fun out of learning. She's only 3 years old and she has years and years of academics ahead of her. Don't let her get burnt out now. Besides, pre-k is exactly where she will be learning all this stuff (you don't need to know ahead of time) and those preschool teachers have such fun personalities and great resource materials, and your daughter will be learning all of this new stuff along side of her new best friends and they will all be eager to absorb all of the stuff that the teacher has to throw at them.

I do think it is very admirable that you and your husband are wanting to help your daughter learn all of her ABC's, 123's and so forth, but try to do it in a natural, fun loving way as possible. These websites probably will give you some good ideas on age-appropriate learning games that you can do with your daughter:

www.ivillage.com
www.familyfun.com
www.parents.com

Wishing you and your family all the best.

***ADDITION: I just read over your's "So What Happened Post". You wrote that most of the members who replied have 3 and 4 year old children who can read and write. Now I am not going to read through all the replies right now (it is a Friday night after all) but I can tell you unequivocally that it is not age appropriate for children to be writing at 3 and 4. If you force the issue before they are physically ready, you can do some real damage to your daughter's hand.

And as for reading, I know an awful lot of 3 and 4 year olds and 99.9% of them are not reading. Reading simple sight words like "a", "an", "the", and "this" are really not taught until children are well into kindergarten. I have to tell you, I'm really concerned here. I think maybe you have a boatful of unrealistic expectations and are setting you and your daughter up for some really frustrating times ahead. You need to be more flexible in your thought process here and try to look at things in a more realistic perspective.

Lastly, memorizing something and being able to parrot it back is not necessarily the same as learning it and being able to generalize the information beyond just parroting it back.

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She is not ready. Singing a song and repeating what you say are different skills that she is ready for. Let her play, talk to her, read to her, take her to the zoo and the park and the grocey store and identify every object you can think off. Let her marvel at gravel and talk about the colors of the Christmas lights, but don't expect her to enjoy doing things that are developmentally beyond her years. All you can do right now is enrich her environment, you cannot give her a boost into the next developmental stage, and the one you are shooting for is many stages away from typical 3.

She is not too smart for her own good, but she is smart enough to know that she is not ready to do drills, and that is not stubborn, that should be a huge red flag to you to stop it ASAP. You are expecting more from her than a child her age can muster.

M.

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Knowing the ABC song and verbally repeating C is for clothes uses a different part of the brain than reversing the process to say what letter is for clothes. Children's brains develop in an sequential process, and that process can't be forced to any useful effect. A small percentage of kids can do what you're asking for at the age of 3, but most won't get that for at least the next year, and often longer.

You risk making your daughter very anxious about learning if you urge her to do more that she is capable of doing. The crying and distraction sound like she's anxious because she doesn't know how to please you.

The best thing you can do for her is to encourage imaginative play. Here's just one of MANY articles on the importance of play in young children, from Education.com: http://www.education.com/reference/article/Ref_Value_Play...

Many other articles warn against putting too much stress on academics in a child's early years. Research shows that any early advantage generally has leveled out by about 4th grade, and kids who have been urged along too fast burn out early.

So let your little girl play. She's a student of life, of motor skills, of language-building, of imagination, of burgeoning social skills. She's got so much to learn, and her little brain is cranking at full speed already.

By the way, the children who most love to read are children who are read to. And the single best predictor of a child's academic success is a large and varied vocabulary by the time she reaches age 4. So if you want to get her into books by reading to her, go for it!

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she doesnt have to know her abcs.. she is 3...

her preschool will spend the entire year learning 1 letter per week.

then again in kindergarden they will learn the letters - at a faster pace..

try going to starfall.com great website..

but really I think you are frustrating yourself and the child... she doesnt need to do this at this time..

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She is 3. She is getting drilled. Don't do it. She is too young for "working" on her letters, unless SHE initiates it. If you want to make it fun... then do.. but what you have described sounds to me like you are almost badgering her about her letters. She doesn't answer because: a) she is tired of the quizzes; b) she knows the answer and finds it beneath her to respond to such an easy question; c) the questioning sessions last too long; d) she wants to be loved for HER and not because she can answer your questions about letters; e) some combination of a,b,c and d.

Sorry to sound so harsh.. but if you start "pushing" her so hard at 3, what will you be like with her when she is in 1st grade? Will you be having her memorize her multiplication tables? Seriously.
If you want to ask her what letter starts "carrot" when you are making a salad... fine. But don't tell her 3 times that "c" starts carrot and then ask her what starts carrot. That is just insulting her if she does know.

If you want to "work" with her.. do so using manipulatives... don't quiz her. Help her make the letter "C" out of playdoh. Or the letter "S".. and then turn it into a snake that begins with the "sssssss" sound. But also make trees and bugs that don't involve ANY discussion of letters. She is "on to" your "teaching games" and doesn't enjoy it.
Sorry to sound so harsh.. but you don't want her to dislike learning. She has a lot of it left to do...
Lighten up and have some fun... no more quizzes... please.

Oh, also wanted to add this, as I just noticed that you said she may be too smart for her own good. If that really is what you think her abilities are, then I would lean heavily towards the "b" reason...( she finds it insulting that you are asking her something so simple that she has already proven she knows). My own daughter learned to READ at 3.5 years. It was HER idea. I used the workbook "Teach Your Child To Read in 100 Easy Lessons"... and they don't need to know their ABC's to do it. By the end of the book it is incorporated into the lessons. It really is 100 lessons. One a day. My daughter was reading small chapter books before her 4th birthday. Pick up a copy online (for less than $15) and look it over. If you really think she is advanced, she might be ready for reading.

Post update: let me emphasize, that my daughter came to me and asked me to teach her to read. I did not push it on her. My daughter is now 8 and is "gifted". She has ALWAYS been self motivated to learn beyond her age peers. She did not learn at the "normal" age... If your child is advanced in that way and approaches you, then there are methods you can use that are not flashcards and drills. That was my only point as far as that goes. But MOST kids aren't ready for reading until at least age 4 or later. My family loves books, and we've read to the kids multiple times a day plus 2 stories at bedtime since they were babies. "I Spy" books were the biggest hit with my daughter. If you get bored easily with the repetition of Dr. Seuss, then mix in some I Spy books and you can search together. So much FUN!

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Ummmm...your daughter is 3. I'm sure she would much rather be playing with her dolls.
No offense, I'm the mother of a highly intelligent daughter who was in kindergarten at 4, but if you get too rigid about things, they will tune you out.
My daughter was 2 and she could spell her name, first and middle, verbally.
It's not because I ever hounded her about it or made her repeat it or anything...I made up a song about it. It was the rhythm she picked up on.
Kids learn so easily if you just kind of make it part of daily life as opposed to "instruction" at this age. In my opinion.
At 3, after they've repeated something 5 or 6 times, a kid will tune out or you'll have to go on to the letter "D" or something.
D is for "done for a while".
:)
I know you are worried about preparing her for pre-k, but don't worry about it to the extent she has to know what an SAT exam stands for.
I think little kids learn more by going on walks and finding leaves and ladybugs and spiders and integrating lessons that way.
We all want our children to reach the fullest of their potential, but I think sometimes we put too much pressure on them.
And the super smart ones will figure out how to get out of it every time.
I hope you don't think I'm being disagreeable with you, I just think maybe you are too worried about her being perfect and for now, she's 3.
Pre-k won't be nearly so structured and she will likely flourish.
I think it's awesome that you work with her at home. Don't get me wrong.
Their little attention spans can only last so long and I think that's all that's the matter.

I hope you get some great responses and I wish you the best.

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I will respond not only as a parent (since I know you've heard lots of those) but as a former Kindergarten and pre-school teacher. There is absolutely no need for her to know her ABCs before going into pre-K. That is what pre-K is for! It helps her learn how to work with a structured environment and helps her get the skills for kindergarten.

Very few kids are reading before kindergarten. Many can "read" a familiar book, or know a few high-frequency words by sight, but they can't decode a word they've never seen before. So don't worry about if she can read yet. In fact, many kids go to kindergarten without knowing all their letters and they do fine.

Being able to sing the ABCs, and even repeat "a is for apple", is very different from knowing the ABCs. Lots of kids think that elemenopee is a letter (L-M-N-O-P) and that "now I know my ABCs ..." is part of the alphabet.

Right now it is more important for her to think learning is fun that to know anything to "be ready for school." All the consequences for not doing her lessons, etc, are teaching her that learning is a drag, no fun, and a chore that she'd rather not be doing (not the attitude you want her to go into school with). Take advantage of teaching moments as they come, but don't worry about how much she's learning. Drop the flashcards - or better yet, give them to her and let her play with them. In a few months or a year, you might find her "teaching" her dolls the letters, or even just naming the cards (if she sees the a and says apple, she is making a connection between the two, even if she's playing on her own). Just let her have fun and play with her dolls, it will probably make her more ready for school!

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Please don't push your child in academics. She doesn't need to be "ready" for pre-K this fall. She needs to play with her dolls!

She will do this when she is ready, if you don't make it so she hates school. Her job right now is learning the world around her, which is what play is for. Play is work. And children work very hard while they are playing. They are using their imagination, learning to interact with others, learning how to communicate and understand what people say to them. If you are planning on putting her in a pre-K that expects them to act like kindergartners, you are doing her a big disservice.

Instead of getting her past her personal feelings, please get past your personal feelings of wanting her to be so much more advanced that what a 3 year old should have to be. Her stubborness will just increase if you keep pushing her on this.

ADDITION:
D., most of the 3 and 4 year olds on this site cannot read and write. You've just seen a little sampling of moms talk about their kids. The rest of all these thousands of moms on this site with 3 and 4 year olds don't read and write. Please ask an educator what children's developmental milestones and education milestones should be, instead of comparing your child to those outside the norm.

D.

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