K.S. asks from Brookfield, WI on November 29, 2007
Help!
I need some opinions on what is going on with my 4 month old. Up to this point he has been the perfect baby happy, content, sleeping through the night and on a schedule. However for the last two weeks he has been thrashing around (the only way to describe it) when we lay him down, when we feed him or when he is being held. He wildly moves his legs and arms all over the place hitting and scratching and it looks like he is in pain but he is not crying just grunting. He is not sleeping well at night and will only sleep if he is being held a certain way. It was like overnight he has become a totally different baby. At first we thought that maybe it was gas (we are formula feeding) and tried gas drops, no change. Is it possible that he is having trouble with the formula (Enfamil Lipil)? Please help I haven't slept in weeks.
So What Happened?™
Thanks to everyone for the great advise. Turns out that we had a combo issue. First was gas...he was taking in too much air with the bottles so we had to switch to another kind which made an improvement within hours. The second issue was constipation, two days of karo syrup in the bottle and he is all "cleaned out" and back to his regular routine. Thanks again!!!!
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S.Z. answers from Bloomington on November 29, 2007
Hi! My son was having a lot of problems. You could tell he was uncomfortable, etc. and just wasn't "himself." We switched to the Gentlease formula (which Target has a brand that is half the price but same ingredients/values). After switching, totally different, happy baby!
You might try the gentlease formula and see how that works.
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S.F. answers from Indianapolis on November 29, 2007
Those symptoms seem to sound like Colic..I'd try a different formula...Maybe one for colic babies..My daughter did the similar things..Then I tried That Nutramigin...Seemed to help & then she grew out of it around 6 months..Good luck!
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J.D. answers from Chicago on November 29, 2007
I could be the formula (either a sensitivity or allergy to milk). Any other symptoms? Rash, poop issues (blood, mucus, watery), eczema, vomiting, spitting up a lot, hives?
you can try Isomil (soy based - not milk based). Have you called the ped? How are naps? Any allergies (any type, not just food) in the family?
Maybe reflux? Maybe not getting the food fast enough or too fast?
We see children's memorial pediatric allergists
Good luck!!!
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N.P. answers from Chicago on November 29, 2007
Hi K....
It sounds like this behavior is happening during/after feedings. So I would guess that he might be having an intolerance to the formula. I would try switching around and see what works best. I was told Nestle Good Start is the most gentle on babies tummies. Or you might find you need to switch to soy. Try keeping him upright after he eats... maybe he is experiencing a little reflux. I have been told Little Tummies Gas Drops work great but it sounds like it hasn't. Maybe some good tight swaddling will help. And if you don't notice a chance, it might be a good thing to give your doctor a ring. Hang in there!
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N.D. answers from Chicago on November 29, 2007
It could be the formula. My baby was the same way until around the 3rd month. We tried literally 10 formulas. I even took her to what I call a coo-koo Doc to see if his holistic approach would work- which it did, for a day. Finally we found Enfamil GentleEase formula and she has been doing great ever since. It has half the lactose and it doesn't have as much cows milk in it. You might give it a shot. Otherwise, try the Lactose Free, Carnation and if those don't work, try the expensive formuals like Alimentum- which your Doc can give you a sample of.
I know it's hard...good luck.
N.
Ps. When you find the problem, your sweet baby will be back.
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T.S. answers from Chicago on November 29, 2007
K.,
I don't think it's colic as colic USUALLY starts young and ends at about 12 weeks or so (unfortunately, I experienced it with our first son). Did you just start formula prior to this starting? Did you introduce cereal? Did you change formula?
It could be that the formula doesn't agree with him. I'd talk to your peditrician and try some formula for sensitive stomach's or something like that. I don't have TOO much experience with formula since I BF for 6 months and the formula we switched to (Similac Advance) worked well for our first son and our second son (3.5 months old) is doing well with BM so far.
Good luck, and again I'd at least call the doctor.
T.
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J.D. answers from Chicago on November 29, 2007
I could be the formula (either a sensitivity or allergy to milk). Any other symptoms? Rash, poop issues (blood, mucus, watery), eczema, vomiting, spitting up a lot, hives?
you can try Isomil (soy based - not milk based). Have you called the ped? How are naps? Any allergies (any type, not just food) in the family?
Maybe reflux? Maybe not getting the food fast enough or too fast?
We see children's memorial pediatric allergists
Good luck!!!
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C.B. answers from Chicago on November 30, 2007
K., I too have had a similar experience when my daughter was just about 4 months. I was also feeding her the Enfamil Lipil. My daughter was also having trouble with bowel movements. Our doctor recommended we first try adding the mylicon (gas drops) to every bottle. This did not work that much. So, we switched formula to something that did not have extra iron added and have partially broken down iron as well. We changed to the Enfamil Gentlease. We did have to add the mylicon to every bottle still but she eventually grew out of this. Another thing we have used is to add some Karo Syrup (basically corn syrup, find in the grocery store next to the maple syrup) to her bottles (not too much). This softened her stool and made her stomach pain/thrashing disappear. The osmotic change the baby experiences from the sugar is what softens the stool and helps digestion. Our doctor also recommended this method. I don't know if any of this will help, but it might be worth the try because it worked for my daughter. Good luck!
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K.P. answers from Chicago on November 30, 2007
Hi, K.! I, too, have a 16 week old. She has become more active than ever! In fact, when we put her in a pack n play last weekend, we walked in to find that she had moved 90 degrees!
If your son is arching his back and crying a lot, than he is probably having tummy trouble. My daughter was miserable her first 6 weeks -- arching her back, revving up and crying for hours, wouldn't sleep at all! After six weeks, my husband saw blood in her diaper -- we were alarmed, to say the least. After a frantic call to the doctor and reading Baby 411, we realized that she had an allergic reaction (to cow's milk). We switched to soy formula and now, feeding time -- besides the wriggling around -- is much easier on all of us!
Also, my doctor (who I really like) said that the gas drops are ineffective. If your baby has acid reflux (like mine), the sphincter to the stomach may not be fully developed and gas is getting trapped. I think you would have notice this the first weeks, so I don't think his discomfort is gas. If you think it is, you may want to try Tylenol (ask your doctor first) as this will ease the pain. This is what my doctor prescribed -- and said to throw out the gas drops as they are a waste of money (although some of my friends completely disagree). In our case, the gas drops did nothing since her case was severe (she is now on medication for acid reflux -- and the volatile spitting up has subsided).
Also, our little one sleeps like a champ (first weeks, she wasn't able to sleep much)! Now, at the first notice of sleepiness (yawn, red eyes, etc.) we put her down and sing her songs or talk to her about the day until she is settled in and then we let her fall asleep on her own. Almost always, she is fully sleeping in 10 minutes without much fuss. If we wait too long, she can't calm herself down and fights going to sleep -- in these cases she ends up moving so much she misses her entire nap (which makes the following playtime less fun).
I hope this is helpful and that your little boy feels better soon (and you get some sleep)!!
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D.T. answers from Indianapolis on November 30, 2007
Whenever my kids suddenly stop sleeping and eating well I think of ear infection. It can really hurt to lay down or swallow. Take him to the doc to rule that out. If something like that has been going on for 2 weeks I'd be taking him to the doc anyways to try to figure out what's wrong.
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M.H. answers from Bloomington on November 30, 2007
K.,
Sorry to hear that your little one is having such a time. Even you for that matter! Is he having regular bowel movements? I ask because my son went through something similiar when he was a baby. It isn't always gas however it could be a build up of not being able to go potty.
Have you increased his food intake? Perhaps, you should try to water down his formula a little more (just make it a tad less thick)
I would suggest that you discuss this with your pediatrician as soon as possible. Perhaps, they can help you with what may be causing him discomfort.
It sounds like a nasty bout of gas or back up in his system to me. However, I'm not a doctor and I would be more comforted knowing you took him to see one for this problem. It may just be his formula needing to be changed.
Hope this helps Best of luck and wishes~ M.
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