J.F. asks from Beaverton, OR on March 19, 2008
Goats Milk Instead of Formula??
My friend and I both have two month old babies. My little one is breast fed but my friend is having problems with milk supply. She was giving her baby formula for a while but has recently started giving her goats milk and adding folic acid to it. Has anyone heard of this? Is this okay for a 2 month old? She said that her baby is less gassy with the goats milk but has not talked to her pediatrician about it yet.
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Thanks everyone. I talked her into talking with her pediatrician, whi told her to stop with the goats milk until the baby is one year old.
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M.Z. answers from Portland on March 20, 2008
No, she should not be giving her baby this. This is dangerous and her baby's doctor would tell her to stop right away. Her baby is too young and goat's milk lacks key nutrients a young baby like that needs. It is not too late to help increase her milk supply, but she will need help to do it. A board certified lactation consultant is great and so is finding a La Leche League leader.
Best,
M.
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C.H. answers from Seattle on March 20, 2008
I would be extremely concerned that the baby is not getting enough nutrients from the goat's milk. It is so important in these early months that the baby receive sufficient nutrients for healthy brain and body development. I think your friend seriously needs to speak with a pediatrician about this.
I found this excerpt from Kellymom.com, a breastfeeding website:
"Goat's Milk: Using goat's milk before 6 months or regular use between 6 and 12 months is not recommended. Goat's milk is no more appropriate to give baby than cow's milk. If you need to supplement and breastmilk is not available, formulas are a more nutritionally complete product. Goat milk is much closer in composition to cow milk than human milk. Goat's milk is high in sodium (like cow's milk) and is very high in chloride and potassium, which makes the renal solute load too high for babies. This can cause gastrointestinal bleeding and can result in anemia and poor growth (these problems are usually undetected until months later). Goat milk is also deficient in folic acid, which can lead to megaloblastic anemia. Also, infants who are allergic to cow's milk protein are often allergic to goat's milk too.
While it's true that whole goats milk (and whole cow's milk) was commonly used prior to the advent of infant formulas it is also true that the infant mortality and morbidity rate during the times of such substitutions was very high."
Hope this helps....
J.B. answers from Portland on March 20, 2008
Hi J.,
There are many conflicting views when it comes to appropriate alternatives to breast milk.
As an acupuncturist, I inform my patients that if breast milk is not available, goats milk formula, or organic commercial formula are the best options. The most important thing to remember with goats milk (aside from supplementing with Iron - which your friend is already doing) is to boil the milk (to remove brucellosis bacterium). Also, barley malt sugar should be added to the milk.
Feel free to check out the Pediatrics page of my website for more info on breastfeeding - www.AirmidAcupuncture.com
Has your friend considered all options for improving her breast milk supply?
J. Bales, L.Ac.
Airmid Acupuncture
E.B. answers from Portland on March 25, 2008
I'm not sure if it is good to give a 2 month old goats milk. She really should be asking her peditrician. You arnt supposed to have real milk until your 1 years old.
J.B. answers from Portland on March 20, 2008
Hi J.,
I am all for breastfeeding. I breastfed both of my sons for 15 and 18 months. They started other food when they showed interest in it. I don't know exactly why your friend has problems breastfeeding but going back to it would be the best. Has she tried contacting La Leche League (brastfeeding consultants)? Gassiness is usually the consequence of mom's food. A lot of fresh fruits and green vegetables, light proteins (fish and poultry) (no beans!!!) should help both with milk supply and gassiness. I would try and keep breastfeeding for at least a few more months. Remember also that the less a mom breastfeeds, the less milk there will be. I would do anything to keep breastfeeding since it is the best option for the baby (not always the choice with the least resistance for the mom) but that's why we become moms - to give all of our love and attention to a brand new, beautiful human being, at least while it is still 100% dependable on us. It is our responsibility to give it our best! I wish you and your friend a lot of joy with your babies! Time goes by so fast - every moment is precious and unique. They grow so fast!
H.C. answers from Portland on March 20, 2008
I take the info in the first response from Christine, only along with all the other information there is available from other professionals on goat milk.
The article made me laugh and made me cross that certain authorities get away with feeding the unsuspecting public with such rubbish!!
I am certain that on research, we would find that the article was written by one of the formulas companies who are loosing out on sales to a growing number of people who feel that if breast milk isn't available, milk from another mammal is preferable to man made formula.
The protein in goat milk is much easier to digest than that in cow milk which is why infants are usually fine on it while many show adverse reaction and allergy to cow milk.
I would follow the advice from someone below, that she check in with a Naturopathic Doc to make sure she is adding supplements like fish oil, vitamins and iron in the right amounts.
My milk dried up at 4 months with my first child so I can pass on the info given to me by my ND if you like
J.R. answers from Portland on March 20, 2008
It's not a good idea to give an infant under 6 month's goat milk. Formula is crafted to meet the high nutritional requirements of newborns. Goat's milk doesn't have DHA, omegas, iron, and many other nutrients that an infant needs to develop properly.
If you know anything about breastmilk, you'll know that it is extremely fatty and complex, with antibodies and nutrients that pass through the mother. A goat does not have the same nutritional needs as a human. It's the same with cows milk under 6 months. After 6 months it's still not the best idea but the baby can handle it better.
If you arent' having any trouble breastfeeding, maybe you could produce a little extra through pumping for your friend? She sounds pretty health concious based on her choice and might appreciate that.
H.W. answers from Portland on March 20, 2008
The pediatrician will, likely, not agree. However i gave it to my son. None of the formulas agreed with him. We got a recipe from our uncle who boiled barley and used the pink water along with some Karo syrup and goats milk to make homemade formula but we could never get the pink color right so we just moved directly to goats milk. We did add some multi vitamin drops. The iron is sooooo heavy in the formulas our son just couldn't take it. I Highly recommend goats milk.
also my friend raised her girls on goats milk, but then they live in kansas and actuly milk their own goats. They are very healthy children. But again most of the medical establishment does not condone this idea.
M.S. answers from Portland on March 20, 2008
It is absolutely NOT okay or safe. Her baby is not getting enough of the right nutrients, and her baby will soon be malnurished and end up in the hospital if she is not careful. Please, advise your friend to consult with her pediatrician immediately before she causes permanent harm. Her baby is human, not a goat!
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