M.M. asks from Newark, NY on July 17, 2010
Girl Scouts and Doll Question
I actually have two questions . . . please respond to one or both of the questions if you have any feedback. Thanks!
First, I am considering being a Girl Scout leader for my daughter who starts Kindergarten in September. I had a friend offer to be a co-leader. I briefly remember being involved with Girl Scouts as a child, but don't remember enough to know what I am getting myself into. I guess I mainly want to know is how much time committment is involved? How long of a committment do I have to make? Any other general information you want to include would be great. I'm pretty clueless. Oh one more note, I'm also afraid I will end up carrying the majority of the workload because my friend (co-leader) works part-time Fri/Sat/Sun 12-hour shifts as a nurse.
My second question has to do with American Girl Dolls. I am considering buying her a generic American Girl Doll from Target for her birthday. My question is whether or not they are as sturdy as the American Girl Dolls? Do they offer a wide variety of clothing in the Target brand doll? If someone buys her American Girl brand clothes by accident, will they fit on the Target brand doll?
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B.C. answers from Dallas on July 17, 2010
Well, I am not a troop leader, but my daughter is in the scouts and I am friends with the leader. She puts A LOT of time into the troop. You have to do training classes, deal with the cookie selling (a ton of work!) and coordinating events. Plus you'll need to do weekly meetings, have crafts available, snacks, etc. I think if you do it, it'll be totally worth it, but yes, it is a lot of work!
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A.G. answers from New York on July 18, 2010
I just bought my almost 4 yo her 1st "American Girl doll" (target dolls) but her big sister (9yo) had 1 (target doll) for years and this past Christmas recieved the real American Girl Doll. The $20 price tag is soooo much better than the $100 price tag and the worry that it will get damaged is so much less. and yes the "real" cloths fit the "fake" dolls! Until the child is old enough to play carefully with the real thing why spend all that money. (I personally wonder why spend all that money anyway. My In-laws bought it for my oldest I would have never spent the money even if I had it!)
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D.H. answers from New York on July 17, 2010
In re: first part: I AM a Girl Scout leader and have been for seven years. I DO put a lot of effort into it, and it shows in that our troop has been either an Honor Troop or a Star (which replaced Honor last year) for the past 5 years. This is a GOOD thing because it means that my troop is well-rounded and is exposed to many many wonderful things. BUT I am a SAHM with a background in management so I am able to use a lot of my Project Management and leadership skills within the GS program. With THAT said, please know that as the leader, YOU pretty much get to define WHAT your daughter's troop "looks" like. You can host meetings weekly, bi-weekly, or monthly. You can define dues and set it to be collected up front or at each meeting. You can delegate snack to each girl's family (this is tricky 'cause a forgetful parent/guardian can be very disappointing to the girls, so I always had a box of cookies in the car.) or use dues to purchase snack for the girls. You can pursue badge work or just do arts and crafts each meeting. Or you can focus the girls on service projects in their community. If you do decide to go for it, make sure you take the training courses. Also, ask the community director for a mentor, a leader with experience who can help at your first few meetings. At each meeting, have a few activities planned across a broad range of topics. This is good for a number of reasons. You may blast through one or two activities and have nothing to do. The girls may not be interested in the activity you planned. As far as reaching out to parents, this is up to you. I did in the early years and it was helpful. As the girls got older, something changed and the parents became more of a hinderance than a help. And with regard to the fundraisers, delegating is good too. Have a Cookie Mom or Dad you can TRUST.
I hope this information helps. My girls are still into it and enjoying themselves and they are all going into 8th grade!
As for the dolls, I know that many places sell clothing for 18" dolls which is what I believe the AG dolls are. I can't speak to the quality issues as my daughter has only the AG dolls. One is a hand-me-down still in good shape so I guess they are high quality.
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K.C. answers from Philadelphia on July 17, 2010
I thought about getting a 18" doll from Target for my girls, because they are much, much less expensive than the American Girl dolls. But my girls wanted *specific* dolls that only AG had, so we went with that. It wasn't so much about the type of doll, but that *one* American Girl doll that they wanted. If your daughter just wants a larger 18" doll and doesn't really care about brand, I say go with the Target ones. Then you have more to spend on the clothes, which will fit both types of doll. After having spent a small fortune at the AG store, I've learned that the best place to buy 18" doll clothes is on ebay. There are hundreds and hundreds of dresses, shoes, accessories that cost a fraction of what you'll pay for the *real* American Girl stuff (which is so ridiculously overpriced, somebody should be arrested for it). Have fun doll shopping!
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L.M. answers from Pittsburgh on July 17, 2010
I wasn't the troop leader or anything, but the Daisy Troop (1st graders) that my daughter was part of this past school year met just once a month for 90 minutes and was pretty low key. Each time they had a craft or activity tied in to one of the petals they earned for their smocks (being helpful, honest, a good friend, etc.) They had a couple of outings, too, one to Petco, for instance. They sold cookies, and I think the hardest job any of the moms had was the one in charge of collecting the cookie money and getting all of the right boxes to the right girls. You should ask other moms to volunteer for specific jobs like that. We each contributed a snack or drink for everyone once during the year (with about 20 girls involved). My daughter enjoyed being a Daisy a lot, and I don't think it was an overwhelming amount of work for the moms who volunteered. I do know of another troop in our school district that meets every week, so of course the commitment there is much greater (though the troop of girls is probably smaller). Good luck! The Girl Scouts themselves will be able to tell you what guidelines need to be followed and how much leeway you have to make the troop what you'd like it to be. It should be a lot of fun.
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B.C. answers from Dallas on July 17, 2010
Well, I am not a troop leader, but my daughter is in the scouts and I am friends with the leader. She puts A LOT of time into the troop. You have to do training classes, deal with the cookie selling (a ton of work!) and coordinating events. Plus you'll need to do weekly meetings, have crafts available, snacks, etc. I think if you do it, it'll be totally worth it, but yes, it is a lot of work!
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B.B. answers from Washington DC on July 17, 2010
To answer your first question: The amount of time and effort you put into being a GS leader depends on you. You will need to take training, you will have to hold regular meetings, which can be weekly or twice a month. There are always Moms who are happy to volunteer to lead the girls with earning badges, doing community service work, or being chaperones for field trips. So, you shouldn't be all alone in running the show.
My daughter has been in scouting for nine years, and this is my observation about the various leader she's had. The BEST leaders are the ones who are truly devoted to scouting. They do it because they believe in the GS principles and love seeing girls grow and blossom into capable, compassionate citizens with great leadership skills. These women devote A LOT of time and energy to their troops and consequently have girls who are very enthusiastic and involved.
The worst leaders I've known get into it only because their own daughters need a troop to belong to. They stay in it as long as their daughters are interested, and desert the other girls once their daughters decide to move on. They put in the least amount of time and effort, and the girls in their troops are bored and don't get much out of the experience. We've had both kinds of leaders through the years.
So, please consider carefully your motives for wanting to be a GS leader. If you only want to do it for your daughter, you could be shortchanging the other girls in the troop.
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S.A. answers from New York on July 18, 2010
Being a girl scout is as much fun and is as much work as you make it. Your frien offered to be a co-leader. I would ask her what her plan is. Maybe she can do all the paper work. Thats a big help. There is usually a monthly meeting for the leaders that one or both of you will have to attend.Maybe you can take turns. It is a yearly committment. Its a fun way to bond with your daughter and get to know the other girls her age. If you're too busy already dont do it because you will end up not doing a good job and thats not fair to the girls.
My daughterd have American Girl dolls. We also have one from Target. they are very nice and are just about the same size. Ours is a boy, so we didnt put the girl clothes on it but it looks like they will work fine. The doll is nice and good quality. I reccommend it.
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J.M. answers from New York on July 19, 2010
My sister has bought 5 dolls for some of my neices. It is her present to them when they turn 8. They are sturdy and if something happens they have a "doll hospital" that youcan send them to be repaired. The dog chewed the fingers and the arm was replaced, they also removed makeup from another dolls face. I would recomend th eAmerican Girl doll.
As for Girls scouts there is some trainings you have to go through to be a Leader, first aid/cpr is one. You also have to be fingerprinted. My sister was and assistant leader and she did alot. Check on the requirements.
A.B. answers from Dallas on July 18, 2010
I see you have many responses, but more can't hurt I guess. My daughters (8 and 10) have the Target dolls, and they love them. I think they are a great alternative to the AG dolls (which sorry, i think are a RIP OFF). Target has PLENTY of outfits that fit the dolls; the girls normally get a new doll outfit for their bday and Christmas. AG accessories do work with the dolls, but who wants to pay those prices? Target also has other accessories, like the bathtub, bed, etc... still pricey but nothing compared to AG.
My girls have been in 2 girl scout troops; the first one was when they were Daisies with a leader who had once monthly meetings and didn't put much into it. They didn't camp or anything. We LOVED it. It was less burden on our time, and they still did enough at the monthly meetings and also some Saturday activities (like a play, nature walk, etc.). The troop they are in now is VERY active. They meet twice monthly, but it seems like every weekend there is some activity that they can go to (we don't go to all of them). That troop leader puts TONS of time into it. We switched for a couple of reasons: Their meetings are on Mondays, whereas the other troop was on Fridays, which wasn't so good for us. Also, their first troop only had Daisies/Brownies, and my older daughter was moving up to the Jr. level, so she wanted to be with kids in her grade. All in all, the less active troop was nicer for us because it took up far less time.
Hope this helps.
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