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Frustrated Mom Seeking Advice on How to Potty Train Her Kid

I have a 3 1/2 year old son that is having problems with potty training. He does ok with the peeing but he still continues to poop in his pants. He had been doing real well with both until about a month ago and then just started going in his pants. He also doesn't care that he did it. He will walk around and continue playing with the poop in his pants. I have tried to ignore it and not make a big deal about it but that doesn't seem to help. Yelling at him also doesn't help. I really don't want to put him back in diapers. I am getting real frustrated. I would like to put him in activities but a lot of them he can't do until he is potty trained. Any suggestions out there?

Steph

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Well, thanks to all out there that gave me advice. I am not sure what really helped but my son has pooped in the potty the past 4 days. He even went in there and did it all by himself. I didn't have to make him go. I has been so nice. Thanks again!!

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S.
I totally can sympathise with you. I was going through the exact same thing last summer with my son who was 3 1/2 at the time. We battled with poopy pants EVERY day and I was frustrated to the point of tears with him. I had tried everyting, rewards, treats etc. I talked to my cousin who is a child psychologist and he suggested that it was a power thing, one thing that my son had control over. He told me to totally drop the subject. That next day when he pooped I didn't say anything, just changed him and went on with my day. The next day, same thing, no yelling, saying nothing. It was maybe a week or so and he went on his own! From that day forward, he hasn't had an accident at all! I only wish I'd done it sooner.
Try not making it a battle and see how that goes. It's frustrating though!!!! Good luck.
C.

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Yelling doesn't work, but try having him help clean things up - the bed, his clothes, himself. It will take a lot of supervision, but maybe the distastefulness of the job will help convince him this is not something he wants to continue. I did this with one of mine (a most reluctant potty trainee) coupled with missing out on things like going out to play or going to McDonald's (because he couldn't be trusted to stay clean/dry)and it worked.

SAHM of seven

Has anything changed that may be stressing him out? My son had a problem with this and I had to speak with him about how proud it makes me to have him go potty in the toilet, and how he can't go to school and play with his friends if he poops his pants.
I don't know if this helps, but thats how I did it. Also I did the character under pants, I told him they were his friends under pants and that he would be mad if he pottied in them.
Good luck, try not to get too upset about it. I would say a lot of children do this to their parents, they can be monsters... but you got to love them!

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S.
I totally can sympathise with you. I was going through the exact same thing last summer with my son who was 3 1/2 at the time. We battled with poopy pants EVERY day and I was frustrated to the point of tears with him. I had tried everyting, rewards, treats etc. I talked to my cousin who is a child psychologist and he suggested that it was a power thing, one thing that my son had control over. He told me to totally drop the subject. That next day when he pooped I didn't say anything, just changed him and went on with my day. The next day, same thing, no yelling, saying nothing. It was maybe a week or so and he went on his own! From that day forward, he hasn't had an accident at all! I only wish I'd done it sooner.
Try not making it a battle and see how that goes. It's frustrating though!!!! Good luck.
C.

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Make him clean it up! WHen he poops his pants, make him take them off and dump the poop out in the toilet, make him rinse his underwear out, and make him clean himself up (of course make sure you supervise and follow up) and then make him get himself new clothes, and at this age I really think he needs a punishment for pooping in his pants. He's 3 1/2, he knows what he is doing and there is no reason for it. TAke away his TV time, or his favorite game, his favorite toy. Put it in a 'poopy time out' on top of the fridge for the rest of hte day if he poops his pants.

He'll quickly realize that it is way easier to just poop on the toilet than it is to clean his own underwear, clean himself up, and get new clothing, and lose his favorite toy/activity for the day. AT his age, there is no reason for it, making him do all the 'dirty' work and having a consequence, and STICK WITH IT, will work. Don't give him a choice.

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There is a method used with special needs kids and other particularly resistant potty trainers called shaping. Basically, you start by allowing him to go in his pull-ups, but tell him that he has to do it in the bathroom. Once that is mastered, he can sit on the toilet--fully clothed--and go there. Eventually you take the pull-up away. Some kids are actually frightened about putting their bm in the toilet. Have you figured out _why_ he isn't going there? That may be more helpful in figuring out what to do than any other methodology.

Good luck!

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S.,
I felt like I was reading something I could have written a few years ago! My son was in the same place and couldn't have cared less about having soiled pants on. Same thing - rewards didn't work, punishments didn't work. Three was a tough year for my son and I. Sometime around four years old it finally resolved itself. The best advice I can give you is to try to get the pooping out of the way at the same time each day - when you have time to deal with it to eliminate surprises later in the day. We had a rule that my son had to poop before he left the house in the morning. I helped him out initially by giving him some fiber supplements with breakfast for a while, until it became a more natural time for him to go. The best advice I can give you it to let you know that you are not alone on this problem and to not let it rule your day. As aggravating as it is, try to let it go. It will pass eventually.

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I agree don't yell. Many kids use potty as a way to assert independance and challenge their mom. Believe me, they know what they're doing, and they know it's freaking you out. I'm most certain since you say he has mastered both skills but has regressed, this is more an issue of him finally discovering he has a power that mom can't control.

Here's what to do:

Get a visible rewards chart. Either purchase an already made one (Check out Melissa and Doug products or Target which sells a really niceMelissa/Doug type wood/magnet responsibility chart that can be easily adapted. Or make one yourself using his favorite t.v. or book character stickers. Put down a section for each skill needed for good potty habits. You know 1. Remembering to go sit on the potty. (even if they don't "go" they should be rewarded for the effort). 2. "Making a rock" as my boys love to call it,if they actually get the job done. 3. One for pee. 4. Using wipes or toilet paper. 5. Flushing. 6. Washing hands with soap/water. 7. Going when he "feels" it, and not without mom reminding him.(this is real important to reward and reinforce!!)

Be sure to purchase a variety of prizes that you know he'll work for. Even have some "grand" prizes. I filled a small rubbermaid shoe storage box with matchbox cars, action figures, mini-play dough etc. Each time he would sucessfully complete a duty he'd get a sticker that could be applied toward a certain type of treat at the end of the day. You can even put together a simple point system that shows him what he'll get if he accomplishes his "tasks" well. Make it a fun game, that gives him a sense of control over himself rather than making it a war with you. Most of all, reinforce a sense of accomplishment by constantly telling what good progess he is making as the stickers/magnets start filling the board. If at the end of the week or when you feel the board is full, then you can offer him a choice of a "grand prize" something that appropriately rewards him for his good work. Be sure to tell him he "earned it" and that in life all hard work can result in good things such as knowing "he knows how to be a big boy and use the bathroom with no help, etc.

Even though he is already potty trained, be sure to periodically throughout the day, "remind" him to go to the potty, and follow him in just like before. If he bulks, remind him that he can still recieve a small reward at the end of the day for his efforts, and remind him that at the end of the month/week etc. he can work toward a special treat. Treats can also be other things like a special meal, or ice cream etc., but I found that something tangible was much more effective. They need to see what they're working for. I think this is a boy thing.

If you have a particularly willful little guy, put him on a timer. This was very effective with my youngest. We never used a reward chart with him. He didn't respond well. He's not really into things, but he is into gadgets and electronics. I found this fantastic little product at www.onesteapahead.com called the "POTTY WATCH". It looks like a child's watch, but is a timer that can be set by you for 30, 60, and 90 minute intervals. When the cute watch that looks like a potty plays a happy little tune (not annoying and just long enough to get em moving) it signals that its time to go sit on the potty. This is really great for those kids less than motivated to drop activities when nature calls (my little one was one of these). They can't resist and go nuts calling the troops to rally on toward the bathroom. Even his friends and whoever is near him that know what the watch is about want to go running to the bathroom! It's like the pied pieper or something. It is $9.95 and comes in blue and pink.

This method works well with a kitchen timer as well. Potty watch did not exist with my older kids, but I had read about using a timer to teach kids to use the potty. (This method is also good for kids that can't feel when they need to go) and I went to a gourmet cooking store where you can find the most interesting assortment of kitchen timers...cows, chickens, cars, flowers, etc. I let them pick what they wanted. My oldest picked a cow timer and we named it "pee pee cow". He loved it. I made him carry it around the house with him and would set it for 30 minute intervals and lengthened the intervals as he got better with using the potty on his own. Finally, he on his own stopped using it.

Also reinforce with videos and books. Some good ones are "Once upon a Potty" for boys both in book and video. Duke university also has an excellent program on video called "Potty Time", and don't forget "Elmo's Potty Time" and the Elmo doll sitting on his own potty. There's a great book at Target called "It's Potty Time" that flushes when a child presses an electronic button. I leave this in the bathroom with other potty related books to be read while getting the job done. They love it and tend to get the job done when they are busy reading.

This is a great time to teach him about the seriousness of germs and the importance of cleanliness. One of mine went through the play with the "pooh" stuff until he got to see pictures of microscopic germs in a children's science book and I made the connection between illnesses and germs and reinforced that's why we put it in the potty instead of make things out of it.

Last but not least, reevaluate your bathroom set up. If it's not kid friendly, it might be a deterrent. If your guy doesn't like his potty seat, or its too much work to get the potty set up for use on his own, he's not going to bother. I have all boys. I hate to say it, but they are not into work. I found out they didn't like having to put the potty seat on the potty, and didn't like dragging the stool the used to get on the potty from the potty to the sink to wash their hands. I found a cool potty seat that has three layers; a lid, an adult seat, and a child's seat all in one. All the kid has to do is open the toilet seat to his size and sit. I keep two stools in the bathroom now. One by the sink and one in front of the potty.

I know its alot, but I've been through alot with this department. I can happily say we've had success and are currently doing very well with our guy who just turned three a couple of weeks ago. He's almost there. He's been successfully making rocks for three days now. We started potty training about 3 weeks ago. Right away he mastered peeing. Boys love this! Especially if it can be a game like shoot the Cheerios. For my house, number two is equated to "constuction time". My boys loved pretending to be at the rock quarry and got a kick out of the idea of making rocks. Find what works for you! Good luck.

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Get the books: Everybody Poops and Everybody Farts and read them to him. Boys love books about bowel movements and passing gas. They will help him to analyze the process and become more interested in the outcome.

Going back to diapers may not be what he wants either. But it may be an incentive to get him to use the potty again. He most likely won't be happy when you insist that his only choice is between the potty chair or a diaper. So...

Read yourself: Raising your Spirited Child. This book is about children (15% of them) who communicate differently because they are, essentially, smarter than we are. Finding the right communication tool is the key to communicating with a three year old and getting them to do the things that benefit them most.

Once he has read these books and you have read yours, take him to an activity that he is missing out on because he won't use the potty chair: a pool like Shoreview Community Center pool where the excitement is everywhere.

Let him know that this kind of activity awaits him for when he is ready to use the potty ~ but that it's up to him to decide when that is.

Believe me, the more invested you are in his potty training, if he is a 'spirited' child, the more he will resist the training. For these kids, everything has to be their idea. Once it is, they will never turn back.

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BOth of my older boys had the same issue, they did not want to stop playing to go poop in the potty.

A friend told me about this and in worked for both of them on ONE DAY!!

When they poop, have them walk from where they were playing to the bathroom, take down their pants, sit on the potty and then pull up their pants, then walk back to where they were playing. Have them do this 10 times in a row.

FOr you, try to stay calm. When he complains, which he will, you state that over and over, " I know this is frustrating and takes you away from your play time, so once you learn to listen to your body and go poop in the potty, we will have to keep practicing each time you have an accident. You can go back to playing once you get through your practices"

You need to make him complete all 10 practice trips. If they start to cry DO NOT give in, just wait with them until they calm down, and then have them continue to walk to and fro.

If you have any more questions, let me know.

Best of luck!!!!

A.;)

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S., i had 3 boys, and they all got the pee thing down, but they did not get the poo thing down till each of them were 4, this takes longer, i say , be patient and let nature take its place and soon he too will have it down, i wish i knew when my kids were young that it would take that long i would not of started them so early, hahah take care and im sure he will be fine, give him another 65 months , meanwhile play catch him if you can, , if you see he needs to go take him and put him on potty , he will get it, continue being the good mom you are, D. s

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