J.C. asks from Austin, TX on September 29, 2009
Friendship and Other Issues
thanks everyone for the help! My husband and I have talked alot about things and we are both on the same page. He loves me for who I am. Ya'll don't know my husband and how he is SOOOOO much more different than MOST men!! He and I are going to work thru some things. Also my husband is aware of the friendship that I have with the therapist and everything that I talked to the therapist about! So there isn't hiding of that!
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I want to thank everyone for their advice. It is greatly appreciated.
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W.W. answers from Houston on September 30, 2009
J.,
I think you should find a different therapist. This is a dangerous situation for even a happily married woman. I would find a woman who is sympathic and can perhaps help you through these things. A man is still a man even when he is a therapist.
I would not really like it if my husband was so close to his therapist of the opposite sex.
It is better to prevent a bad outcome.
Good luck, I understand about the sex thing too as I have been through that as well.
W.
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J.B. answers from Houston on September 30, 2009
Hey J.:)
Well first off I do think you should take care in this friendship with another man. I do think men and women can be casual friends but I think that sharing deeply on an emotional level should be reserved for your husband. We are emotional creatures so things start in an emotional place for us. Most of us don't go out with our girlfriends to the batting cages or to play football. We go to coffee to talk and to lunch to catch up. So we choose girlfriends we can bond with on an emotional level. Now with a man that emotional connectedness is part of what holds us in a tight relationship with him and causes us to want to open up physically. So I think you really must watch out about the depth of sharing with this other man. I personally think you should limit your conversations with him to things regarding your son, casual jokes and just regular stuff like the economy etc. Talking about your marriage with him is just not a good idea, especially about your sex life. You just have to protect that info from anyone, letting it be known there might be a problem to someone that is not a counselor there to help you with your marriage or a pastor is definitely an open door for possible trouble. I think that talking about God in a general way is fine but our personal relationship with God is very intimate too so I think choosing a woman to share from that very intimate part of your soul would be better and far less emotionally confusing. Now on the sex front. The fact you waited four years wouldn't really be a red flag to me because I didn't have sex before I was married either but I love it now. Once I gave my heart to the Lord I didn't have sex for about 12 years and I dated a guy for 3 years or so before I met and married my husband. I just believe that sex is a blessing for marriage and I didn't wanted to misuse that gift from God. So I am with you there:) But I do think that while it is not the most important part of marriage the lack of it can definitely increase it's importance. I think this issue may have come to a level where you guys might want to consider some Godly counseling or look into some kind of christian marriage retreat. My hubby and I read a great book on marriage called Intended for Pleasure by Dr. Ed Wheat. It talks about some of the most common sex problems and how to overcome them. I don't personally agree with every single thing in the book, but some of the tips helped us a lot. I had a good friend who didn't care for sex at all though she really loved her husband so much. She read a book called The Marriage Bed I think by Tim LaHaye and said it was really great for her. It deals with how personality plays a big role in how you view and respond to sex. You probably still have pain because of infrequency and there are some simple things you can do as a couple to overcome that. I had pain the whole first year to some degree and still enjoyed myself, we just had to work together to get through it and make our physical connection a priority. I do think that having physical intimacy really deepens every other aspect of your relationship. It isn't all about frequency or exactly what you do together, but making coming together a priority is definitely a project I think you will both benefit from greatly. As far as the other guy, I think you have enough going on in your marriage to occupy your time and emotional energy, just be kind to him and appreciate his help but get your eyes and energies on your own house, you will be glad you did in then end:)
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S.O. answers from San Antonio on September 30, 2009
It is so nice to have a friend like that and very helpful. BUT, women who never intended to cheat find themselves with someone like that who is fulfilling a need that the husband isn't. Next, the fantasies will begin. Next, the opportunity and flirting with danger. You may find yourself in a position you don't want to be in. I would definitely limit this friendship and keep it more on a professional level, or stop it entirely. Your marriage and your testimony are too important to even chance it. It is not a good situation!!! Women usually cheat, not for physical needs, but for emotional. Take heed!
The sexual relationship you have with your husband has to change. The only way it is going to is if it starts with you. I understand how you feel, your physical pain, your fears, and your insecurities. Figure out a birth control that you can deal with for starters and do so immediately (even if it something you don't care for). It is the only way to help with your fears of becoming pregnant. Secondly, you are going to have to start working on your attitude about yourself sexually. Your husband waited for you, and stays with you and wants you. Don't deny him. That is sin and one that greatly affects the both of you. Get over yourself. Change your attitude that it is not about you but him (for now). Sit down and have a huge discussion about how you want to change and you need his help. Pray about this. Pray that God helps you overcome your pride and selfishness (because that it what it is; you are more concerned about how you look and feel than you are your husband's needs and desires, as well as overlooking the importance of this relationship to your children). Recognize this as sin, rebuke your thoughts, and force yourself to at least change your actions. Start seeking to please him at least once a week. Just go to bed naked if that's all you can muster for now. After this, then there are things to do next - but I'll stop for now. Start there, but don't stop there.
You are in a very dangerous situation. Your needs are being met by a wonderful man. You could be putting this man at great risk of sin as well, at least the temptation of lust. Don't do that to him. Think of both men and your chilren. Your marriage is not worth losing or damaging over this, or just the possibility of it. If your husband becomes jealous, even just over the friendship, you are hurting your marriage. It's just not worth the possibility!!!!
I highly recommend the book Created To Be His Help Meet by Debi Pearl (nogreaterjoy.org). If you can't afford one, let me know. I will get one to you.
The only thing that sets your marriage apart from any other relationship you can have with anyone else is sex. If that is not going well (with very few exceptions), your marriage is hurting and slowly dying whether you choose to realize it or not. Help yourself - read this book from cover to cover even if you don't like it. She will give you wonderful, practical advice and you will be grateful in the end. So will your husband. So will your children.
I'd be happy to talk with you privately as well.
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N.S. answers from Houston on September 30, 2009
First thing to keep in mind - this is a PHYSICAL therapist for your son and not a PSYCHOtherapist for you. Surely you have girlfriends that you can talk to the way you feel you can talk to him. And trust me - I have a brother and I wouldn't talk to him about husband and sex issues.
Is it possible for a man and woman to be only friends and nothing more - of course. If is possible to be friends with the opposite sex and not think about a sexual thing with that person - not very often. If you are talking to this man about things of this nature you have other problems in your marriage other than lack of sex.
I would suggest you and husband engage in marriage counseling to see what those problems are and see if there is a resolution to them.
Based on your scenario of the sex it sounds as if there is a deeper issue than what you've described. You don't want to engage in sex because you wanted to remain pure (understandable). You didn't want to have sex because you wanted to be married several years before, you didn't like condoms and you wouldn't take responsibility of taking a daily pill. Did you look at other alternatives - there are tons available. If you did and for medical reasons they didn't work - all understandable reasons. If you did not look at other options - there are underlying problems that you are choosing not to recognize.
Good luck.....
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L.A. answers from Austin on September 30, 2009
J., you are going through the 7 year itch. It happens to most married people. You are wife, a mom, a volunteer, a caregiver and you need to stop and see how fortunate you are. You married young and I am guessing were pretty sheltered. You have not had a lot of experiences with grown up relationships. You are mistaking kindness with something way more than it really is. He is a professional and is there to do a job. He is kind and listens to yo, but you need to let him do his job and you need to find some friends.
You give and give, but you must also ask for what you need and want and you should start at home. Figure out what needs to be updated in your marriage and really work on it. Do you need to feel like a woman? Do you feel like being a mother is great, but maybe you need some grown up contact? Maybe some more education?
I do not know how you feel about birth control, but you need to figure out something that will work for you, if that is the real and only reason you are reluctant to have sex with your husband. There are many alternatives. No excuses.
Body issues are a maturity thing. Many women look at what they consider flaws in their bodies instead of seeing that their bodies are true vessels of life and beauty. The stretch marks are there, because of your "Beautiful Baby Boys." They are a record that you are a woman and a mom. They are not flaws they are a gift.
You need to start sharing your feelings and thoughts with your husband. That is one of the most important gifts a wife can give her husband. I am guessing it is easier to speak with this other gentleman, cause the house or office is quieter when he is around. You need to make your conversations just as important and quiet for your own husband. Get a sitter. Go somewhere and have a date night EVERY week. MAKE and FIND the time. No excuses. Tell your husband you want things to change. Do not push him out or leave him with no idea what is going on. That is not a true marriage. Find a marriage counselor and find the energy and go. No Excuses.
I am sending you clarity.
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M.G. answers from Austin on September 30, 2009
You are a runaway train headed for a hugh crash, a brick wall.. It is extremely dangerous what you are doing.
Stop and try to turn this energy to your husband. Find some way to talk to him as you do this physical therapist.
Get some counseling on your sexual problem, you are going to destroy your family . Learn about the church's method to not get pregnant, you seem to be a great candidatefo it as you could suspend sex for a week. Remember holding back for your husband is against your marriage vows, God made you in his image, Love yourself so you love your husband and children. You should also talk to your doctor about your sex drive, it could be that you are lacking hormones. Anyhow start working on you marriage. Stay friends with your daughters therapist, but at the same time take the time to talk to your husband about the same conversations you had with this other person. I know I have been there, and I know what can happen.
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M.S. answers from Houston on September 30, 2009
J.,
As a Christian you should know your body belongs to your husband. Neither husband or wife is supposed to deny the other intimacy. Intimacy is an important part of a marriage. I would advise going to see the doctor about your pain issues and birth control. There are several other options other than the ones you have tried. You are missing that closeness that intimacy brings to your marriage and are getting close with the therapist instead. Not a good idea! See your doctor and take care of you and your husband.
M.
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C.G. answers from Austin on September 30, 2009
About the therapist-- if you have to question whether something is right or wrong, you pretty much already have your answer, don't you?
About the low sex drive, I think we've been there, I know I have. What worked for me was that I tried to picture my life without my husband....I know that sounds weird as far as how that could work. But it honestly did.
It made me want him more, and it focused in on us and what we have together.
God gave you that family, please take care of them. :)
~~~Huggs~~~
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S.G. answers from San Antonio on September 30, 2009
sounds like u have some issues u need to address with your husband. even though you "don't like sex", that is a needed part for intimacy in a good solid marriage. it looks as though you're filling that intimacy void thru being socially intimate with your therapist. i think that is a fine line to dance on. maybe your husband is "physically attractive", but that doesn't mean you are physically attracted to him. from what you say, it sounds like you enjoy the therapist's company more than your husbands...not a good recipe for a good marriage. you recognize that, or u wouldn't be questioning the relation.
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