J.B. asks from Orlando, FL on February 07, 2008
Evening Feeding Out of Control......
So I am about to lose it...My daughter Emma is almost 2 months old, we have started maintaining a routine for a couple of weeks now. However she is about to drive me crazy at bedtime. She eats at 7pm (I am breastfeeding), she gets a bath at 8pm. Right after her bath she is hungry again not even a 1/2 an hour later. She bresats feeds until I am empty and then gets a bottle of pumped milk usually 4 oz. As she is falling asleep in our arms directly after eating we move her to her bassinet where she cries and cries guess what she yells us she is hungry. We give her another 2oz. She is wide awake. I then have to hold her until she strats to fall asleep. She will sleep for 30 mins and is up screaming again I try to leave her be and she strats and stops crying for about an hour before I try to go to bed (We sleep in the same room)and usually we end up in the bed together in order for her to calm down (which is usually about 12am or later). I tried swaddling her and that worked a couple of times and now does not. I call her my little monster. It seems she can't get full and she fights going to sleep unless I hold her. HELP!!!
I have thought about giving her formula at bedtime so she stays full and goes to sleep but I don't want to interfere with or give up breastfeeding. I don't know what to do. I don't understand why she just doesn't go to sleep.
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Y.Q. answers from Tampa on February 12, 2008
Hi,
My daughter (3 months old) does the same thing. I only breast feed her. I found that my daughter is just bored. I feed her at 7 pm, change her and then we lay on her play gym, then I read to her and sing songs. She eats in between and sometimes will fall asleep. If she does I put her on the bouncy chair or the swing, so by 11 when I feed her again she is drowsy and falls asleep easier.
Hope this helps you.
K.W. answers from Pensacola on February 08, 2008
Try adding a tale spoon or 2 of rice cereal to the bottled milk and give that to her I know she is 2 mo nths old but my babies were eating baby food and cereal at 2-4 weeks old it helps when they are fussy and act like they dont get enough! Trust me it helps and works unless they are colic!
Good luck,
K.
A.M. answers from Tampa on February 08, 2008
Have you tried a binki? Mine just liked to suck as she slept and studies are now showing that they're actually helpful in fending off sids. My child's pediatr. also says it sooths them and there is nothing wrong with them!! I breast fed my first but she wanted to fall asleep and keep breasts in mouth...so that helped a lot and at about 18 mo she didn't want it anymore. Now, my 16 month (my last), I hold a lot more b/c I realise the time they are a baby is so short I want to cherish it...I haven't even had to try a binki.
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J.I. answers from Gainesville on February 08, 2008
Dear J., it can be challenging dealing with night-time issues, especially when naturally we would like to have some down time and be able to sleep the way we did before. it may be that trying to fit her into a scheudkle that doesn;t work for her is a big part of the problem. Whenever we try to fit a baby into our preconceived notions of what they should be doing and it isn't working, it's time to evaluate what we are doing, rather than creating a problem where none exists. She is acting the way she acts because she is only two months old! It is very common for babies to cluster feed in the evening. By offering her so much milk in the bottle, she may be actually overfeeding, though, and feeling gassy, particularly if she is swallowing a lot of air. Babies will often take a lot from a bottle, even if they are not particuarly hungry. Just keep offering her the breast, even if you feel as if it is empty. We are never entirely empty, and keep producing in response to the suckling. Have you tried this and still find she is fussy? (I am thinking most likely not). The formula may make her stomach upset, and studies have shown that breastfed babies sleep no longer when supplemented with formula.Babies have intense needs for closeness; this is normal! Maybe try wearing her in a sling or carrier so she can doze in the evening while you get some things done or visit with your husband. There is nothing wrong with letting her go to sleep at the breast, or in sleeping with her, as long as you follow safe co-sleeping principles. Co-sleeping actually reduces the risk of SIDS. Check out AskDrSears.com website for tips on safe co-sleeping. Babies nurse for lots of reasons, and that is one of the most wonderful things about breastfeeding: it can meet baby's emotional as well as physical needs. This is NOT spoiling!!! In addition, babies have different sleep cycles than adults and if we understand this it makes life easier, even if we are not getting more sleep. When adults go to sleep, we go instantly into a deep sleep. Babies on the other hand, slide gradually into deep sleep, which takes about 20 minutes. This is why they wake up when we think they are asleep and lay them down before 15-20 minutes. Instead of trying to make babies act in ways they are not developmentally ready to act, we can accept them as they are and learn about age-appropriate behavior. In our culture we are very focused on adult needs and are fearful of making children dependent. But infants and children ARE dependent, but they will grow and develop if we have faith in them and give them the love and security that they need.
Most of our parenting attitudes and practices have changed drastically in the last 100 years or so. This was not based on research, mind you, and no research has demonstrated that what we do now is an improvement. Rather than relying on other women, who were the experts in birth and childcare, we gradually moved to a system where medical professionals, who were mostly men, became the experts. And the kind of advice that these careproviders give is mostly not based on science but on dominant cultural beliefs about parenting. For example, most doctors are very uncomfortable with co-sleeping and do not hesitate to give opinions on this, even though it is a parenting concern and not a medical issue. Please trust your own instincts: you know your baby better than anyone else does and if the advice you receive does not feel right for you, do not heed it.
I have seen several posts on this listserv that mention "BabyWise." I wanted to share that this is the only parenting philosophy that has been condemned by the American Academy of Pediatrics. The authors have no training or expertise in the areas of breastfeeding or parenting. Babies have been diagnosed with failure to thrive and even clinical depression due to this approach. Our relationship with our children should be one of love and trust, just as we wish it to be with our life partners. We do not need to show them who is in control and who calls the shots. How would we feel if our partners had that attitude toward us?
Your baby is not a little monster, she is just a baby. Try to enjoy her as she is now. She will grow more quickly than you can believe and these days of utter dependence will pass and you may even look back on them with longing one day!
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K.H. answers from Fort Myers on February 07, 2008
are you sure she doesnt have gas?
K.W. answers from Pensacola on February 08, 2008
Try adding a tale spoon or 2 of rice cereal to the bottled milk and give that to her I know she is 2 mo nths old but my babies were eating baby food and cereal at 2-4 weeks old it helps when they are fussy and act like they dont get enough! Trust me it helps and works unless they are colic!
Good luck,
K.
S.M. answers from Lakeland on February 08, 2008
i had the same problem with my son he was hungry all the time so I gave him fomlua at night just to get him to sleep. then i breastfed at 12am then on from there for the rest of the night then he still was not getting enough i tarted rice ceral at 2 months old he started sleeping for 5- 6 hours then. he is still waking up at night but it getting better, he is at 8-9 hour now up for a bottle the back down for 2-3 hours . Don't let anyone tell you what you are doing is wrong go with the gut instincts. I did.
J.M. answers from Tampa on February 08, 2008
Hi J.! I'm the proud mom of twin 3 month old boys. I went through a little about what you're dealing with- although not to the same degree. I was advised to get the book, "On Becomming Baby Wise". I did, and I've read some of it...it has some good advice but it seems to be very partial and makes me feel at times that I'm doing the "wrong" thing for my boys and that they're not sleeping is my fault. Don't give up yet- your baby is still very young and it may take several more month before she's ready for a routine! Oh- do you have a swing? I don't know if this is good advice or not- but it works for one of my boys. He sleeps in his swing ALL NIGHT- only wakes up once now. We might be starting a bad habit that will be hard to break later- but for now it works...
A.F. answers from Naples on March 28, 2008
They sometimes require more food at night. I had to supplement formula because I wasn't making enough milk. I wouldn't worry about her not going back to the breast. If that is what she knows for 2 months now she will still prefer the breast milk. Feed her til she is full. Make sure you get a burp. She could get gassy. You may want to try a couple gas drops too. Good luck!
C.M. answers from Tampa on February 09, 2008
J., I feel for you. It sounds like you have the feeding and bathing backwards. She's fed, all nice and satisfied (even temporarily) and then she's bathed. That bath is waking her up, stimulating her. She's aggravated, fussing, and using up every bit of nourishment you gave her by expressing her dissatisfaction at being roused from a good, sleepy full belly.
Try bathing her first, then an hour or so later, feed her. Make sure to change her diaper before the feeding. Once she's fed, burped, hold her for awhile, even rock her. Soothe her with your words, your voice. Hum to her, sing to her. Before she's completely asleep, put her in bed. Even if she cries. DON'T PICK HER UP, yet. Pat her on the tummy. Continue to talk soothingly to her. If she starts to quiet then continue for a few more minutes.
However . . . at 2 months old, if she's that fussy, pick her up. If she has colic, you're going to face this same routine for about another 4-6 weeks.
I am a mother of 6 and 2 of my babies had colic. If you think this is the case, re-post and I can give you more suggestions for that.
I hope things works out!! Don't give up, the first few months are hard. Try other suggestions before you use formula. Your breast milk is the BEST thing for that precious baby.
Take care,
C. M
C.R. answers from Jacksonville on February 08, 2008
Routines are great and she'll get used to them eventually. she's only 2 months old, still a newborn. Mabie she just wants to cuddle with her favorite person. Mabie she feels more secure with you, and lonely in her bassenet. Not that you have lots of time to read but...I liked dr sears The baby sleep book, they have some great suggestions on getting my munchins down. Not that I'm nursing until he's 2, or sleeping with him until he's 4. I wish I'd read the book with my oldest. It helped me see my baby's perspective. Good luck!
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