K.L. asks from Story City, IA on September 13, 2010
Dog Training Question...
I have gotten so many great answers from questions about my daughter, I thought I might try asking about my dog! We have an 8-year old Beagle, Molly. We have only had her for a little over 2 years...the family who had her before are family of friends and just couldn't give her the attention and love she needed...so they gave her to us. We just love and adore her, as does our daughter, but she came to us not trained AT ALL!!!! First of all, I don't want anyone to think this family treated her badly, she was spoiled...just didn't get a lot of attention. I have taught her the basics...sit, shake, stay. She was a runner too! She would bolt anytime the front door opened. We have taught her to stay and she has gotten so great that we take her to a big open field to run every once in awhile...and she comes to us everytime we call her...she's a great dog...except for when it comes to walks!!! I am a SAHM and my daughter just started kindergartan, so we walk atleast 2 times a day and she just loves it! But...when I go for her lease she freaks out!! Jumping, barking, running around...it's like she's never been on a walk before and this happens everytime we go for a walk. I have tried putting my knee up when she jumps up, but she gets right back up and does it again. And then when we are on the walk, she pulls constantly. I bought one of those collars that goes around her nose...which she hates, but it still doesn't work! I have tried training her, it just doesn't work for walks!!
Does anyone have any advice...I will try anything!
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K.H. answers from Minneapolis on September 14, 2010
lol,lol....typical dog behavior-you should see my 3 at go outside time..its like trying to tame a zoo.but you have to use solid stern command voice-STOP_COME HERE_...try using a body harness you have more control than with just a collar an leash.my cocker is trained beautifully-shes sooo good...my min pins..mom an baby...whew its like trying to walk a couple elephants-they pull so hard they walk sideways..so i finally put the baby in a harness-huge difference...but the biggest thing is you have to stay stern...
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M.F. answers from Phoenix on September 13, 2010
I trained my childhood dog for showing, so walking on a leash was something we worked on a lot. The best way is to get a soft slip (choke) collar, one that tightens when they pull against the leash. I'm not suggesting one with spikes inside or anything extreme, just a soft fabric one that will hang loos when the dog isn't pulling, but get tight when the dog pulls against it. At the start, the dog might pull against it until they're gasping, but don't worry. Your dog won't strangle themselves and a short jerk on the leash with a command to wait or stop or slow down will be quickly learned. You can also put the collar under the dogs jaw, so the top part rests on the top of the dogs head and the leash can be held vertically above the dogs head. If you walk like this, with the leash pulled snug, but not choking, the dog can't pull (no wiggle room) and you can teach them to follow the softer motions of the leash when walking and turning and stopping instead of having to pull or jerk the leash to get their attention. This takes work, like every day at every walk, but it will payoff. Good luck!
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N.B. answers from Toledo on September 13, 2010
Find a basic obedience class for her and you. It's usually 8 classes, one a week. We've done it twice with 2 different dogs, and I highly recommend it. (I think it was $65, but it varies.) Once you learn the basics, everyone is so much happier! Your dog wants to please you, she just doesn't know what you want her to do. For right now, when you're ready to go for a walk, have your treats in your hand. Make her sit and stay while you leash her. If she moves, you immediately say,"no!', then sit and stay again until she is leashed. Then "release" her and give her a treat. (If you've trained her to sit and stay, you should also have a release word.) In order to train her to walk on a leash, she needs to know how to heel. A class can help you with that. You'll really enjoy the training class, and you'll learn alot!!
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D.K. answers from State College on September 13, 2010
For the excitement before the walk, have her sit and stay and start to get the leash out. If she gets excited, calmly put the leash back and walk away for a few seconds and then try again. She will learn pretty quickly that she has to be calm for the leash to get put on and to go. It may take a long time the first couple of tries and she may have to miss a walk or two if you need to get your daughter to school, so I would probably start with plenty of time or during the day when you get her hooked up and take a very short walk and back in and do several times throughout the day.
I do love gentle leaders, if she is still pulling with it on, I would double check or have someone else at a pet store that is used to them check the fit. They do have to be fairly tight, especially the part behind the ears. I have also used an easy walk harness, which if you don't need head control works well also. I'm not a fan of choke or prong collars, they really can hurt. Clickers can work great for teaching her the position you want her in. I have used them on several dogs to teach a heel position. Starting with if they are not pulling and gradually only clicking when they are right where I want them and then they have to stay where I want them longer. Another option is if she pulls, turn and go in the other direction and then turn back again quickly. A third option is if she pulls you stop walking until she puts slack on the least again. All of these of course take time and treats always help as well as verbal rewards when she is not pulling. When she is running around, anytime she comes up and walks beside you make sure to reward her too. As she gets better you can teach her a "close" or "with me" or a "heel" if you want a more formal position. Our dog knows "short leash" also which means I am going to hold her closer for whatever reason, usually something is going by, but it will be for a short time and then she can go back out a little bit, but no pulling.
For the jumping I would also try just turning around and not kneeing her, since what she is after is attention when she is getting excited about her walk. The knee is still attention even if it is negative, you are still touching her. Turning and around and ignoring her until she is off usually works pretty quickly.
It sounds like you are doing a wonderful job with her training. Keep working on the training in various places and that will help. Hope your walks get easier soon!
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D.S. answers from Tulsa on September 13, 2010
choke collar they sound cruel but the work quick. you need training classes. when I was taught to train with a choke collar you let the dog wander and pull them back to you suddenly. also when you turn you pull them to the left so they have to watch you instead of getting choked. turniong right you bump your knee into them. now the kneeing in the chest works once you hit the right spot but its hard to hit takes me about 20 tries to get it. dont put her leash on her till she calms down and put a treat in your hand so when the leash goes on she is rewarded. find a dog trainer to work with you you will be amazed in the diffrence of the behavior after you do.
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T.H. answers from Chicago on September 13, 2010
I have the same thing with our new 50lb mutt, from the shelter. It's exhausting when you're not sure what you're doing and I get great advice but I'm not getting very far and I've had a dog before!
I agree with Nancy B, get yourselves to a local training course (Petco run them on a weekly basis), which will show you what to do.
One thing my trainer showed me was to use a regular leash but then loop it back under her belly to creat a kind of loose slip knot. (Not sure how to describe this.) Basically, when she pulls it pulls her back end. It doesn't hurt at all but it confuses them. This is the only time my dog doesn't pull AT all, and apparently they eventually learn not to pull.
I still say - classes.
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V.W. answers from Jacksonville on September 13, 2010
Do some reading or watching of The Dog Whisperer (Cesar Milan). It comes on Discovery channel I think or Nat Geographic Explorer. He addresses issues like this all the time. Generally speaking, what you have to do is NOT reward the jumping and excitement. Wait until she is calm and will sit for you until you put the leash on her and take her out. Just wait her out. It might seem like it takes forever for the first few times, but she will figure it out soon enough... she might get excited, but she won't get to go anywhere until she is calm and submissive and will sit.
We did the "knee thing" with our dog when she was a pup (from 10 weeks until 2yrs pretty much) and she learned to jump sideways. In other words, she jumped, but she wouldn't put her paws on you. It's much easier to wait them out when they aren't jumping ON you. lol
Maybe you could try wearing the leash around the house. Just fold it up and stick it through a belt loop or something so that she sees you get it, but she doesnt get anything out of it? Just wear it around all day. Eventually, call her to you, have her sit and lean down and grab her collar. Take the leash from your belt and lay it on the floor... praise her if she still sits. But don't put the leash on her. Just praise her and then walk away. Do that for a few days... until she learns to ignore the whole "getting the leash" thing.
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P.M. answers from Portland on September 13, 2010
Sounds like you've done a great job so far! One effective approach is to desensitize her to the leash. Have her sit, and go toward the storage space for the leash. Every time she gets excited, quickly move away from the leash and have her sit again. Praise her for settling down. Keep progressing toward the leash, eventually picking it up, approaching her with it, but aborting at each stage the moment she loses her composure, and get her settled again. This may require a few sessions in which you never do get the leash out, or clip it on her, or out the door, so plan these for times you weren't planning to walk anyhow.
When she jumps, is it against you (or the person with the leash)? If so, then learn to anticipate the moment of the jump and a step toward her just as she's gathering herself. That throws her timing off and she'll abort the jump, and usually have to step away so you don't bump into her. Take ownership of the space she was going to use for a jump. When I see this as a game or contest, I have fun with it instead of being annoyed. I did this with a small terrier of my mom's – it took less than a week for her to give up the jumping completely with me. But my mom doesn't do it, and gets jumped on daily – complete with scratches, clothing snags, and muddy prints.
The pulling habit is sometimes tough. I believe in quick, uncomfortable punishment for canine disobedience. Not to harm them, but to let them know their place in the pack (family). If they were wild dogs, they would endure snaps, nips, and growls from senior pack members, so I try to do something similar enough that they will understand and comply. A dog is most secure and at ease if it knows its place in the family. A choke-chain sounds cruel, but it isn't if used correctly. But I was able to train my mom's dog to heel with a regular collar. Plus, a dog continually gagging itself or twisting its head back on a walk isn't having the greatest time, either.
I draw the leash very short, stand at her side while she is in a command-sit, and tell her to heel, along with a double "tsk-tsk" click. I give her a brief (never harsh, unless she didn't respond quickly) jerk forward. My commands are brief and "barkish." My praise is smooth and quiet when she steps forward. We walk a few feet, holding her close, then command sit. Repeat until she connects with the command and the clicks, eliminating collar jerks as soon as she gets it (you can eventually use only clicks).
She will probably start pulling almost instantly. Require that she sit, let her calm down a moment, then praise her. An occasional treat is okay, too, but don't give this every time or she'll only work for treats. Repeat as many times as it takes – I've never seen a dog require more than maybe a dozen starts before it realizes the walk will never happen if it doesn't cooperate. Then keep extending the distances, correcting with quick, sharp jerks on the leash opposite whatever direction she starts to pull in. Every jerk should be accompanied by "heel" and the tongue clicks. If she doesn't stop pulling quickly, make her sit and settle down.
This probably sounds like a lot of work, but it really isn't. It's just repeating a few basic commands, watching the dog's timing and learning to outguess and correct her. I got an Old English Sheepdog and a rowdy terrier mix both trained to heel without pulling in just a couple of sessions each, and those dogs were pleased with themselves, heeling with big smiles on a loose leash, with only occasional clicks to remind them not to stop and sniff (though I do allow some of that on every walk, too). Dogs really like to know what the expectations are, so the clearer you can be, the better.
Keep in mind there can always be distractions that throw them off for awhile, and they may try to bolt toward whatever it is. Just remind them about obedience with a quick "sit!" and a jerk, if absolutely necessary. I make a habit of immediately requiring a" sit" if we see another dog, a bicycle or jogger, or any other potential problem approaching, until they are consistently heeling.
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H.M. answers from Phoenix on September 13, 2010
You might want to get the lead out several times a day. Put it on her and then just go about your business. (make sure you keep an eye on her in case she gets tangled). Take it off and put it away without taking her for a walk. Once she has been desensitized to the leash, put it on her, wait until she gives up and lies down (could take a while at first) and then reward her by taking her for a walk.
If she jumps up just turn your back, make a loud high-pitched hurt noise and walk away.
For walking to heel, the main thing you need to do is focus her attention on you. When she starts to pull, just turn around and start walking in the opposite direction. You'll probably find that you're just going round in circles in front of your house at first but eventually she'll realize that it's not that fun. Also I would persevere with the Gentle Leader - it will make it easier for you to pull her when you start walking in the opposite direction. You'll definitely find this hard to do with your daughter because the direction changes will be sudden so you'll have to find some free time to train her alone.
The other thing I do to keep the dogs attention on me is that they have to stop and sit every time I stop walking. I do this at unexpected times during the walk and every time we cross a road (good if you might let your daughter walk her when she's older). It keeps them on their toes.
Good Luck!
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