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D3 kids...MIL Lifeees 10 Min away...NEVER Visits and RARELY Calls...

Ok Mommies...
I finally joined this site, which I can relate to and hopefully give and get some advice...
My MIL lives maybe 10 min away. I have a 4.5 daughter, 3.5 son and 8 month old baby girl. I'm busy, Yes! Ok, I confronted my husband on this on how his mom can never just call or stop by and we live minutes apart. Her 40 yr old son and his teenage daughter live with her. She has another grand daughter that is like 8 who she invites over for cookouts & visit, my husbands brother daughter. My MIL works full time but she definetly has more of a life than I do in her free time.
I have invited her over for dinner and holidays countless times, which I have always supplied 99% of the food. I have tried to include her in our family but now, I would like to end it!! Cooking for guests and 2 kids and dealing with a baby, not easy but I believe family is important. I try to give her opportunity in my kids lives.
She has MAYBE taken a picture of the 2 oldest kids 3 times!! Never of our baby!! She will have cookouts with my 8 yr old niece and BIL but NEVER will invite our family.
It has caused many arguments to me and my husband. If that was my mom, I would call her out. He always has an excuse for her My mom lives 4 hours away and see kids more. Should I say something to her?...advice PLEASE THANK YOU!!!

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Wow, it sounds like you are describing my MIL--Except mine lives 1 minute away! She is just too busy to spend time with my kids, I am learning that I just need to accept it. The worst part about my situation is that my MIL talks a big talk about how much she loves my kids and how special they are in her live etc etc. But her actions don't support her words. UGGH! I also understand that my MIL and FIL can't handle more than one little kid at a time and they have their 8 year old nephew and their daughter living in their house. So I think the time they spend with the nephew uses up their patience reserve! You can always find a grandmother substitute--There is lots of women out there that don't have grandkids that would love to spoil some kids!

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Let it go! She is not interested. You cannot force her, sadly. I have had a similar situation. I just had to let it be. You cannot force people to be who they are not. Move on and focus on those who CAN give you support! Good LUCK!

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Start by changing your expectations of what a MIL and grandmother "should" be. This one isn't.

Is it ever possible to force someone to have a relationship with you? Do you want her showing up at your house out of guilt or obligation? Is this worth arguing with your husband about?

Stop with the "countless" invitations. Invite her over for a meal or celebration a couple of times a year. Acknowledge her on birthdays and holidays. Let her take the initiative, if she decides to, to build a relationship with you and your children.

Move on and live your life. Families come in all configurations.

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You wrote: "Cooking for guests and 2 kids and dealing with a baby, not easy but I believe family is important."

Now read this imaginary post: "Cooking and cleaning for an adult and a teenager, while also holding down a full-time job, is not easy, but I believe family is important."

Get the idea? She is not a retired grandma available to spend her time as she chooses. She's got a lot going on, but you seem to think that her load is somehow second place to your own load with three young kids. Please try to take a deep breath and look at things from her perspective rather than just your own. As someone else who posted noted -- your expectations for her seem very high.

She may be one of those grandparents who is just not up for, or good at, dealing with younger kids. It does happen and it does NOT make her a bad person. There's also the element of what her relationship with your husband is, as someone else noted, and you need to know that their relationship may be affecting how she feels about time with your whole family. She also surely is aware of your animosity toward her and the angerier you are, even if you think you are not showing it, the less comfortable she would feel seeing you.

I know you're new to the site so I suggest you do a search on past posts about MILs and you will find that this is not unusual and she is not a freak -- many grandparents get blasted here for "not doing enough with my multiple small kids" when maybe the grandparents are just not into small kids but do fine with older ones -- clearly your MIL does fine with a teen and an (occasional) eight-year-old. I get that. I know parents, not just grandparents, who are not terrific or comfortable during the preschool and below years but who do much better and are more attentive once kids are old enough to hold a real conversation and amuse themselves for more than a few minutes at a time. Can you step outside your anger and maybe try to see that some adults just are like that and it does not make them mean or bad humans?

Consider it from her perspective: She may feel that three young kids at once would overwhelm her; after all, she has a job and that means -- just like any working person -- she needs some down time AND time to care for her home AND time to care for, at least somewhat, the people living with her. Wouldn't you need all those things? Also, the older generation sometimes feels that they, the grandparents, may be "in the way" or "violating your privacy" if they try to see the grandkids, or that they will say or do something that the younger parents won't like. Is it possible that she is a person who might feel that she is interfering if she asks to see the kids?

Some ideas if you are able to get past your anger and try them:

Do you issue mostly general invitations to holidays? Holidays are often stressful and her adult son and teen granddaughter may have their own expectations that she will spend those days with THEM at their home. She may have conflicts you have not considered. Those weekend days when you assume she could be seeing your kids, is it possible she is doing something at home she can't do during the week because she works? Is it possible she sees the eight-year-old because it's less effort than seeing three kids at once? Do you ever try just offering to take one child over, not all three, or to have her come play with just one child while you do something with the other two?

Try inviting her when it is not a holiday and rather than inviting her for a meal or just a general "come over and visit," ask her to a specific event outside your home that your family is attending, with clear starting and ending times. For instance: "We are taking the kids to the town festival for an hour starting at 10 and then having an early lunch. You could watch the kids play games and ride rides for an hour and then we will eat at Y. We can pick you up and we'd drop you back off at your house at 12:30." She may be more comfortable if she is not expected to host or to be a guest hanging out. She may be more comfortable saying yes if she she is not expected to come up with occupation for the kids or to occupy them even at their own house.

If your kids have activities, invite her to those. "Oldest Child has a dance recital (or soccer game, or preschool singing concert) on Date X at 11 a.m. It lasts about 30 minutes. We would love to have you there to see Child perform. When it's over, if you want to come by the house for cake/a coffee shop for treats/whatever, that would be great if you'd like to join us afterward, but please do come see Child dance/play/sing."

Be specific, keep the invitations limited to set times and places, be enthusiastic about her presence. I know grandparents who dont' really "do" little kids in a general "free play with the grandkids" sense, but who are very happy to attend grandchildren's events or go to specific outings.

If you cut her off now, it will be difficult to repair later. Model tolerance and second (and third, and fourth) chances for your own children and issue her invitations. Be sure your husband does most of the inviting, too, and yes, he can talk to her IF he can do it without anger and accusations, which sounds like it might not be the case. He might be surprised to find how much pressure she feels to work AND be a grandma.

One thing about this site is perspective. Please be aware that you are lucky to have a grandparent in the picture at all. My parents are both dead and my husband's parents are elderly, infirm and thousands of miles away overseas. I would take an infrequently visiting grandparent any time over those circumstances. Many folks here would.

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When you rely on the actions of other people for your happiness, you will always be disappointed.

I have no idea why your MIL chooses to keep her distance, but this is the relationship you have, and there is no point in getting worked up over it. Calling her out will have no positive effect. It might just reinforce her decision to (seemingly) avoid you.

Family is important, but not to the same level to all people. My husband got called out by a cousin a few months ago, for not making an effort to spend time with him. This cousin places a lot of value on being in touch with extended family. We're good with seeing cousins are weddings and family reunions. To the cousin, that makes us horrible people. Getting griped at and called names definitely did not make us want to spend time with him.

If you want to try to talk to your MIL, you must do so calmly and without accusation and judgement. "MIL, I wish we could spend more time together. I'd like to be closer." Either she will agree and make a suggestion, or she will brush it off and you'll know that it isn't going to happen.

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You cannot control other people or make them do what you want. You can only control yourself and your actions/reactions.

I think you really need to lower your expectations with her and stop being jealous of the others in the family that get more of her attention. For whatever reason, your MIL has chosen to act this way and I think the easiest thing for you to do is accept it.

Apologize to your husband for arguing with him about his mother. He can't control her or make her do things any more than you can. Stop making this an issue.

I still think you should keep issuing invitations to her, but always make your husband call. He should call her once a week anyway. You don't say whether she says no to you all, you imply that she doesn't reciprocate. Yes, that is hurtful, but if inviting her over is the only way the kids will see her, then that is what you should do.

That's what we do with my husband's mom and dad. My MIL is not the warmest person in the world to me either - she's passive/aggressive. I won't go into the dirty details, but I decided many years ago that I wasn't going to stress about it. That I figured it was her loss. Now that our kids are older, she wonders why they don't want to spend time with her or talk to her. Well, you reap what you sow, lady!

So, no, don't say anything to her. Change your attitude and expectations. Maybe she'll come around or maybe she won't, and that's okay.

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Wow, it sounds like you are describing my MIL--Except mine lives 1 minute away! She is just too busy to spend time with my kids, I am learning that I just need to accept it. The worst part about my situation is that my MIL talks a big talk about how much she loves my kids and how special they are in her live etc etc. But her actions don't support her words. UGGH! I also understand that my MIL and FIL can't handle more than one little kid at a time and they have their 8 year old nephew and their daughter living in their house. So I think the time they spend with the nephew uses up their patience reserve! You can always find a grandmother substitute--There is lots of women out there that don't have grandkids that would love to spoil some kids!

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I don't understand exactly what you are getting at but I see a bit of jealousy against the time she spends with other family members kids. You have three young children that can suck the life out of older people, if you need the help ask. If you feel that she wants to be included in your family and doesn't choose to then you might be mistaken.

it's crazy with 3 kids I know I have a 7,5 and 2 year old...my in-laws are just now doing things with us more that life has calmed down a bit!

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Welcome to mamapedia! I hope we can help you with this mystery.

Is it possible she is better with children that are older?

How was she with you before you and your husband had children? Did you all see her often and get together with her more at that point?

Is it possible she is exhausted from working full time and having to cook and clean for her grown son and teenage granddaughter?

Maybe she is a bit depressed since she has no privacy. At this point n her life, she should be an empty nester getting ready for retirement in about 8 years. Depression saps a persons energy.

This is really your husbands job to speak with his mother. He can mention he is concerned she is upset with all of you because she never seems available for visits or get togethers. He needs to ask is there avproblem. he can mention he was hoping she and the children would have more opportunities to spend time together, getting to know each other.

Coming from you may not work if the 2 of you have never been close, so tread lightly.

I also have mil issues. My husband and I have been married over 30 years and she has always favored her daughter over my husband. And certainly has never been fond of me. What finally broke the camels back was once we had our daughter and then SIL had her children, the indifference towards our child was not to be tolerated.

She also lives 15 to 20 min from all of us and yet she was always available to the grandsons.

My husband went with her to her therapist. She told the therapist " moms are always closer to their daughters families". The therapist said, "no that s not true, most mothers may have favorites, but they would never tell their children, this is your choice."

Long story short, it never got better, when our amazing daughter was graduating from HS, the MIL and SIL told me they would not be attending, because I never ncluded them or kept them informed about our daughter. ! I am known for my emails and communication skills, heck I was PTA Pres. At 2 of our daughters schools, and always selected to chair things... Because, I am totally on top of communications. I actually emailed them each over 100 sent emails, just from our daughters last 2 years of high school activities awards, events..etc.showing them they were always included in the email addresses.

Anyway, I came to the realization, I did not need that in my life. I encourage my husband and daughter to go and visit, to call etc.. But I am done with that stuff.

If your husband has really tried to speak with his mother and nothing has changed, you will need to come to peace with it. It is truly her loss. We cannot force people to do the right thing.

I am sending you strength.

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Sounds to me like she likes older children. I love kids but when someone has 2-3 right in a row ... it's usually CRAZY when they are over. Very few people are strict parents anymore so when there is a gaggle of little ones ....they usually run the show! To each their own w/ that.

I do think she is missing out, but don't let it get you down. I'd keep inviting her over for the major holidays, stop fighting w/ your hubby and YOU start taking pictures!

To be honest I've never once heard of anyone who was upset that an inlaw hadn't taken any pictures of her children..... that's just looking for things to get mad about. Now if she had tons of pictures of the other grand children DISPLAYED (and none of yours) and your children were at an age where they ere old enough to notice, then I could see being upset... and I would recommend just taking pictures yourself, picking out frames that complement her home and giving her photos as gifts!

Good luck!

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