M.L. asks from Winchester, VA on February 03, 2008
Co-sleeping Moms - Need Your Help!
Ok - my son is just over 8-months old and co-sleeps with us. He is exclusively nursed and started solids about a month ago. We are having three 'solid' meals a day plus nursing but still mainly fruits and vegies. We have introduced chicken. Like I said, he's just over 8-months and he weighs about 22 pounds (always has been big --- 9.6 at birth.)
Here's my dilemma - he co-sleeps with us which is fine though I'd like to transition him into his crib soon. The crib is in our room. The problem is - he still nurses quite frequently through the night. He is on about a two hour sleep schedule -- he wakes about every two hours. I nurse and we both go back to sleep. I realize that he probably does not need to nurse all this time but, of course, it gets him back to sleep and keeps him quiet so not to wake his older sister (2.5 years.) Plus, since he's such a big boy --- my daughter was barely 20 pounds at a year --- I do think it's possible that he IS hungry all these times through the night.
So - how have you all done the transition with a breastfeeding baby? Any ideas? Initially I thought I would first get him to stop nursing through the night and then move him into his crib. But maybe just getting him into the crib will reduce the number of nursing - I'm sure he wakes and smells me...and then wants to nurse. Or, maybe I just need to get up each time with him and get him back to sleep without nursing - this would require me to leave the room (daughter is right next to us and his crying would wake her after awhile.) I'd take him into the TV room and get him back to sleep. Thinking about doing this three or four times a night does not appeal to me but it may be the only way.
What do you think?
So What Happened?™
Thanks for all these great responses. My son is able to fall asleep on his own during the day (and naps in the crib) and in the evening. I am usually putting my daughter to sleep and my husband gets my boy settled. It definetely is a crutch in the middle of the night. I am well aware -- but, it's also a little daunting thinking about the transition. We had, still do, many sleep transitions with my daughter and my son is a MUCH better sleeper than she was.
It's always good to hear from other moms. Thanks for your input!
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C.B. answers from Washington DC on February 04, 2008
I have a four month old daughter, who is exclusively breastfed, that we just transitioned into a crib in her own room after spending the first four months in an arms reach co-sleeper bassinet attached to our bed. It was heartbreaking for me at first, but she took it like a champ and in fact, prior to the move, she was getting up two to three times a night for feedings and now she is down to one. My theory is that my husband and I were waking her up with our own noises (breathing, snoring, rolling over, etc) and I fed her to get her back to sleep. I, too, read Healthy Sleep Habits, Happy Baby and feel that there is a lot of good info in there. Even if you don't take the book's advice word for word, it makes you think about their sleep habits and how you can make them better. Best of luck!
R.M. answers from Washington DC on February 04, 2008
Have you tried feeding him some solid food about 1/2 hour before bed? Maybe some rice cereal or oatmeal - something that might make him feel satisfied for a while.
Wishing you all the best!
D.K. answers from Washington DC on February 04, 2008
Been there, done that. The trick is to have his crib in another room and continue your routine but with him sleeping in his own room and after a while have your husband (because he's not a source of food) take one soothing session, then after a week or two another, and pretty soon your little one is going back to sleep with no nursing (which you are correct in believing he no longer needs at night at this point). And soon he won't even bother getting up for middle of the night soothing that doesn't get him a snack too. It takes dedication and fortitude, but it works.
J.B. answers from Washington DC on February 05, 2008
My sons (9 and 5) both nursed well into toddlerhood and coslept because it meant the most sleep for me, and I always liked having them close. With my second son I put a crib like a sidecar strapped to the bed with bungee cords and the rail all the way down and I would shift him over into it after nursing, it gave us more room and he did nap OK in there. Then we moved him to a toddler bed at the foot of our bed, then later into his own bunk bed with his big brother in an adjacent room. I don't know if it caused him to wean himself earlier, he is more independent than his older brother. I never did get either one to just lay down and go to sleep until they were older. They still need tucking in at night and clamor TUCKING TUCKING at the end of story time with my husband. I will rue the day that they put themselves to bed. Just remember the best way of looking at motherhood - the days are long but the years are short.
S.S. answers from Charlottesville on February 04, 2008
A drink of water instead of nursing sometimes does the trick. S. S
L.S. answers from Washington DC on February 04, 2008
First thing to do is get your daughter in her own bed. My children also slept with me, but as soon as my daughter came into the world when my son was 16 months we introduced my son to his new big boy bed (with soft rails, he couldn't sleep in a crib because he would bang his head and wake himself all night) It was a rite of passage! He would go to sleep in my bed and knew I would be carrying him into his own room after he was asleep. honestly kids sleep so soundly he never knew I moved him. I made sure all his favorite toys were around his bed and he loved his room..He had a nightlight after awhile but required that I put on a familiar video with no sound at first. At 6 he still likes me to lay down in his bed with him to go to sleep but stays asleep and in his own bed all night.
AS for getting your son to sleep at longer intervals, have you tried the rice cereal in his bottle before bed? Again, maybe let him fall asleep next to you, but transfer him to a bedside crib or cradle after he is asleep so he doesn't smell you.
Good luck with this! You need your sleep too!
S.C. answers from Norfolk on February 04, 2008
Does he really need to go to the crib? my favorite quote from Dr. Sears is "Everyone should sleep where they get the most sleep" I have 6 kids. My 3 1/2yr. starts the night in her bed and comes in to ours during the night. I also have a 7 week old that sleeps with us. I keep the baby in the bed by me and my older daughter comes in and sleeps between here dad and I. If you really feel that your son needs to move to a crib you might try the crib beside the bed or at the foot of the bed so you don't have to get up and go far. You might also look at the Arm's reach co-sleeper. it attaches to the side of your bed for the baby to sleep in. We got one but we are using it more as a shelf next to the bed to hold diapers and stuff. My 5th child was also over 9lb. at birth and she needed to nurse much more frequently than my other children. I would suggest just keeping in bed with you and enjoy nursing him until he is ready to wean. The things that steal sleep now will be the things we look back fondly on in the future. With a 2yr. to take care of as well you need to get good rest at night and if keeping the baby in bed is the way to do it then just relax and meet your child's needs.
L.F. answers from Washington DC on February 04, 2008
You are probably right - he is not hungry all of those times. He is using you/nursing as a sleep prop. That is how he has learned to go to sleep. He needs to learn how to put himself to sleep. This would cut down on the nighttime nursing. I'm not sure if you feed on demand during the daytime, but if you do, changing to a more scheduled time with fuller feedings may help as well. I would look for a book on sleep training that meets your with your parenting style to help you out of this delimia. Healthy Sleep Habits, Happy Child might work well. As for the crying - I think you have to except there will probably be some. We turn on the fan in the bathroom and the dryer to try to muffle the sound not to wake our 3 year old. It took a couple of weeks - but now our baby is sleeping like a champ. You have to try it at sometime. I learned with our kids, the earlier we did it, the easier it was on them.
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