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Car Seats - McHenry,IL

My 8 month old is almost at the 20 pound mark and old recommendations say that at 20 pounds you can use a forward facing car seat. My son hates his car seat right now so I am wondering if switching to forward facing where he can see me would help. Any opinions out there.

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thank you all for your answers. He has been in a convertible car seat for 2 months and the angle is pretty low. I will be taking my car to the police station to have a car seat inspection. I am going to keep him rear facing till at least one but after that I think I will be switching him to forward facing.

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Is he still in the infant carrier? My twins hated the infant carriers, we moved them to rear facing car seats at 6 months, and they dont love getting in the car seat but they dont seem to hate the new car seats as much.

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I've always thought it was 20 pounds AND 1 year old before you can make them forward facing. I would wait a little longer

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At 8 months old, there is nothing protecting your childs spinal cord but soft tissue... meaning the head is not connected to the spine yet. The skull does not ossify to the spine until 3-6yrs of age. Meaning in a crash your forward facing baby would have nothing protecting his spinal cord but soft tissue, which cannot stretch. Google INTERNAL DECAPITATION and JOELS JOURNEY.

Then go to the store and buy your son a CONVERTIBLE car seat. First years TrueFit ($180), Graco MyRide 65 ($150), Evenflo Triumph advance ($130), Britax Roundabout50 ($160) are all excellent choices for a child coming out of an infant seat.

Your child needs to remain rear facing for at least another 4 months, but the AAP, NHTSA, Safe kids, and EVERY car seat manufacturer recommend rear facing until the convertible car seat is outgrown, or at least 2yrs and 30lbs. the bare minimum is 1yr AND 20lbs, however the bare minimum is just that, bare, and that recommendation is over 20yrs old. When you know better you do better, and the new recommendations are 2yrs and 30lbs or until the seat is outgrown rear facing.

A rear facing car seat is outgrown when there is less than one inch of hard shell above the childs head or the child goes over the rear facing weight limit. Feet touching the seat, knees bent, etc are NOT a concern and there has never been a case of broken legs while rear facing (But it IS one of the most common forward facing injuries, so that argument is moot). When rear facing the harness should come from just at or below the shoulders to prevent ride up in the seat in a crash. The harness should be snug, and the chest clip should be level with the armpits, NOT down on the belly.

A forward facing car seat is outgrown when one of three things happens, the child goes over the weight limit ,the shoulders go over the top harness slot, or the tips of the ears are level with the top of the seat back. When forward facing ,the harness should come from just at or above the shoulders. The harness should be snug an the chest clip should be level with the armpits, NOT down by the belly.

Your son is 8 months old, he's probably started crawling and maybe pulling up and cruising. He's MOBILE and doesn't want to be strapped down. But a car seat is not a choice. He's probably also over being reclined in teh car seat. Infant seats are much more reclined than rear facing convertible seats. A convertible seat allows him to sit more upright, he will be higher so he can look out the windows, and its a more comfortable position for an older child.

So no, he can't be forward facing right now, but you have an amazing selection of rear facing convertible car seats that will rear face him now and for another year or two, and then forward face him until he's ready for a belted booster seat (bare minimum of age 4 and 40lbs).
Please google internal decapitation, Joel's journey, and extended rear facing for more information. Also visit www.safekids.org for seat check sites near you.

EDITED TO ADD- that even if your state has no actual rear facing law, almost every state has a PROPER USAGE LAW (usually written like 'car seat used to manufacturers specifications') which means if you fail to use the seat as directed in the manual, YOU are at fault if your child is injured or killed in a crash, even if the seat is faulty. There is not a single car seat on the market that allows it use forward facing before 1yr, and the newer Britax models (Frontier) are minimum of age 2.
Bottom line is, your kid cannot forward face until at least 1yr old, you cannot use any car seat forward facing before 1yr unless you want to misuse the seat.

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It is NOT 20 and you can go FF! Please, please, please know this. The old recommendations were 20lbs AND at least 1 year of age. The NEW recommendations are to keep our little ones rear facing (RF) until *at least* age 2. My daughter stayed rear facing until she was well over 2.5. She was in the 95th percentile for height and perfectly comfortable.

Everything that Becky W said is SPOT ON! If you watch the crash test vids it is unbelievable the force little ones are subjected to while FF. While RF they barely move.

It is our job as parents to keep up with the latest research and findings to protect our little ones. The latest research, findings and recommendations from the AAP are to keep them RF until a minimum of age 2. It is *never* insane to do the right thing to keep your child safe.

I absolutely hate it when I hear "oh, our grandparents did ______ and they survived just fine". Well sure, *your* grandparents survived but what about the children that didn't survive? We have amazing access to information to keep our little ones safe. It's our job to use it.

Bottom line-You'll never regret doing the right thing for your child.

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Hi J.,

The first thing you should check on is the law in the state where you live. Every state has its own laws regarding when a child can be in a front-facing configuration. (Some have minimum weight restrictions, some have age restrictions, some have both.)

In the state of Illinois, there are NO set weight or age requirements for rear-facing or front-facing. The law simply states that a child must be "properly restrained." So it is NOT illegal to turn him around in the state of Illinois.

This is the link to the Illinois State Police website with info on the Illinois "Child Passenger Protection Act"
http://www.isp.state.il.us/safety/restraints.cfm

After ensuring that you are following the law, the choice is up to you. So much recent research and testing has shown that children are *significantly* safer in rear-facing configuration. The American Academy of Pediatrics has its own recommendation based upon age (age 2??) -- you may want to google this and check the AAP website so that you have the most accurate information.

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http://www.joelsjourney.org/

Please watch the video.

Your son is not ready to be forward facing.

FWIW a few weeks ago I moved my son's seat to our 3rd row in our van to accommodate my friends baby.
He rides rear facing (he is 15mths.) but in the 3rd row the seat had to be forward facing per the manual.
HE STILL CRIED AND FUSSED-and he could see me in the rear view mirror.
A fussy baby is better than a baby that has a severe, preventable injury any day.
Again, I urge you to watch the video of Joel.

The bare minimum recommended by the AAP is one AND twenty. Not one OR twenty.
And the bare minimum is not good enough for any child.

ETA: I highly recommend the Britax Marathon70. A convertible car seat sits a lot different than a infant seat-that alone made a bit of an improvement in both my kids happiness levels in the car.

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The NEW recommendations are to keep them REAR-facing until age 2 - regardless of weight. Rear-facing is SO much safer for them. At 8 months your son's neck is in no way strong enough to withstand a collision without injury. Please keep him rear-facing!!

My 8 month old is also 20 pounds, but we're switching her to a rear-facing seat.

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Its a year AT LEAST due to the strength of neck and head muscles not size alone. In fact new recommendations are TWO years of age before turning them around. My daughter was backwards until two years of age and she did well with it. I would not consider turning him around at this point

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No you can't it's illegal to turn him around. You should rear face until 2 I'd rather a crying baby that hates his seat then one internally decapitated from forward facing too soon.

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Rear facing til 2.
Take your car, your son and your seat to a local FREE inspection site near you. You can find a place on the National Highway Safety website. A 30 minute appointment could save his life, as 75% of seats are either used or installed INcorrectly.

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